And that is just what He did,,,, not from there ignoranceHe shall save people from sin?
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And that is just what He did,,,, not from there ignoranceHe shall save people from sin?
I guess so. Or could my resting , faith in, trust in and surrender to/ in Christ be delivering me grace that enables... As in
KJV Romans 8
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
If the above doesn't mean literal obedience to God commandments, then to what purpose did Christ come when the angel said, name Him Jesus because He shall save people from sin? What is sin? Unrighteousness. What is victory over sin if not obedience? Righteousness? Of course. And what is righteousness unless it be in harmony with God's laws?
Over my head? Maybe. Perhaps God has minimised His standards to meet our fallen
condition. I like to think though that He has changed us to meet with His standards. Perhaps I'm wrong.
No, it isn't. The law of sin and death is the carnal mind that is at enmity with God and cannot please Him.The law of sin and death is the Ten Commandments.
In this you are correct. Israel said after receiving the law, everything that you have said, we will do, then went dancing not long after.We are free from the Old Covenant way of trying to be righteous and failing.
Certainly not by removing the law. But by removing us. We are the problem because of the fallen nature... So Jesus came, not to condemn the law, but to condemn sin, put to death the fallen nature, that we, being resurrected in Him, can rise up with new natures in Christ and walk in obedience. Hence the scripture that saysSo by what method did Christ save us from sin? The Ten Commandment showed us our sin, so that's not it.
Really, did Moses give the Law?? Are you not familiar that sin is transgression of the Law? Have you not read that death reigned from Adam to Moses? All those destroyed in the flood were for what reason? Does a transcript bring the Law into existence? Can you not join the dots?Was it not Moses that gave the law, so how could it be that sin could be transgression of the law before the law was implemented??
I'm sorry, that is not my tradition.But when I was an Adventist we honored Christ's birth on December 25, knowing that date was only a tradition. So you may think keeping the Old Covenant and its sign is good, but that is your tradition,
Really, did Moses give the Law?
Exo_24:12 And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
Yep because until than we never had them, love has always being the option.There we go, Moses, the obedient servant did as was asked and delivered its transcript and as you well know, he was not the originator of it... 'And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.'
Gentiles did not have a transcript......did this make them guiltless?
Nothing "clever" about it.Now that's a clever way of negating God's Commandment.....the responsibility rests with you.
And yet, you quoted a completely different document to make it sound worse.I'll try to stay honest and admit I wrote very badly. I actually did not know to whom Jefferson wrote <that quote> and still don't care, because what I honestly wanted to write was to remind the reader of the irony, that the first thing the president of the young America did, was to write the pope a letter begging him of all people for recognition of the new state while it was he and his Roman Catholic church who for many centuries tyrannised the mind of men and swore eternal hostility against every form of free thinking or free speech or protest or independence, and was the prime and sole cause that so many oppressed and persecuted fled from their fatherland to the new world.
Not very fair and just then for God to destroy all those good innocent guiltless upstanding citizens of Sodom seeing they had no law to understand sin huh.Yep because until than we never had them, love has always being the option.
I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written
oh yeh thats right He just wrote them...
No, it isn't. The law of sin and death is the carnal mind that is at enmity with God and cannot please Him.
KJV Romans 8
6 For to be carnally minded is death...
KJV Romans 7
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
It isn't a law of sin and death.... It is disobedience to the law which brings death., Which is sin.
Certainly not by removing the law. But by removing us. We are the problem because of the fallen nature... So Jesus came, not to condemn the law, but to condemn sin, put to death the fallen nature, that we, being resurrected in Him, can rise up with new mattress in Christ and walk in obedience. Hence the scripture that says
KJV Romans 8
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
He shall save people from sin
This was related to this endless circle of the law we keep going round. Some people cant let things goThat graph is incomplete. Add, Jesus takes away our sin and gives us His Spirit to be righteous.
Well since it was before Moses. I do doubt they did, God did send them someone to warn them just as He sent people to warn us yet still with all we have people still wont listen. The law does what?? . It kills people without mercy, tah twas all it could ever do, ever did. Should we go around the circle again.Not very fair and just then for God to destroy all those good innocent guiltless upstanding citizens of Sodom seeing they had no law to understand sin huh.
Understand fully that sin is transgression against that law..
Ummmm, what's a "prig"??
By the way - you weren't hearing things. I wasn't responding to YOU . . .
This was related to this endless circle of the law we keep going round. Some people cant let things go
This was related to this endless circle of the law we keep going round. Some people cant let things go