Why do so many christians Hate Israel..

CovenantPromise said:

News flash, like their Whore mother , Protestant's have things wrong, and they have raised her a greater in fool behavior. They are all going to fall away but Christ's Words will always remain.

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What Whore Mother ?

Anyone who attacks Jesus mum is of Satan !

Many RC do spend to much devotion to Mary however that I have seen, some come across as if Mary is their God, they are that stupid that it's Mary this Mary that all the time. they are way out of line with the RCC true teaching.
This Mary worship has got way out of hand and that is because of bastardisation within the RCC.

GISMYS_7 said:

God says to tiny Israel==Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

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Jewish people are great - I am just not a fan of the government of Israel. However, at least they were not stupid enough to assassinate Qassem Soleimani.

aspen said:

Jewish people are great - I am just not a fan of the government of Israel. However, at least they were not stupid enough to assassinate Qassem Soleimani.

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But didn't they.

CovenantPromise said:

But didn't they.

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perhaps Bibi used Trump as his proxy........I think there is another term for it in prison, so Trump is just practicing?

Reggie Belafonte said:

What Whore Mother ?

Anyone who attacks Jesus mum is of Satan !

Many RC do spend to much devotion to Mary however that I have seen, some come across as if Mary is their God, they are that stupid that it's Mary this Mary that all the time. they are way out of line with the RCC true teaching.
This Mary worship has got way out of hand and that is because of bastardisation within the RCC.

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You do know that there are two trains of thought which come out of Rome? The one that has set herself up as having dominion over the gospel ,while shmoozing with kings is the harlot body. And that harlot body yes has a large number of Catholics but it consist of all religious harlots of all denominations. But since the Catholic denomination holds the most truths, it is the biggest whore before God. But those who are given increase , the Spirit of quickening, will shed all the influence of the harlot body and not only hold the most truth, but will be given even more and will become the End time Elect perfect bride. That because they have preserved the most truth.

It is the glorious time of the harvest, glorious but also very revealing. The wheat and the weeds have grown together to this time. Now all reaping is happening. You will be surprised where the weeds are placed. The great falling away???.... well the harlots are going to possess the mortar and stone facades while the truly Elect are the temple. Wickedness on high places....on the back of the beast will all harlots of religion ride. You know who they are, they fornicate with the kings of the earth. Do you know the meaning of that?
Oh and if it is worth anything , I am no bro , I am a woman of God.

Reggie Belafonte said:

See the PM of the State of Israel is being undermined much like Trump is as well. now as to the Jews in question who is who ? that's the thing?

There are Jews and then there are Jews, now who is it that are the Satanist ? now that's the tricky thing. one can talk about one group or the others but when you do it all becomes like trying to clime up a greasy pole.

I have always hoped that the Jews do well in the State. but not with them as acting like Nazis, as that makes me and many Jews i know cringe.

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Jews are not Christian, it's been over 2000 years that Jesus was crucified by the Jews and, as far as I can see, most if not all, are still anti-Christ.

Mar 15:12 And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
Mar 15:13 And they cried out again, Crucify him.

hermeneutics said:

Jews are not Christian, it's been over 2000 years that Jesus was crucified by the Jews and, as far as I can see, most if not all, are still anti-Christ.

Mar 15:12 And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
Mar 15:13 And they cried out again, Crucify him.

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hey, Jesus wasn’t a Christian either......in fact, (say it with me) he was a Jew!

hermeneutics said:

Jews are not Christian, it's been over 2000 years that Jesus was crucified by the Jews and, as far as I can see, most if not all, are still anti-Christ.

Mar 15:12 And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
Mar 15:13 And they cried out again, Crucify him.

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'And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified Him,
and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.
Then said Jesus, "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."
.. And they parted His raiment, and cast lots.
.... And the people stood beholding.
...... And the rulers also with them derided Him, saying,
........ "He saved others; let Him save Himself, if He be Christ, the chosen of God."'
(Luke 23:33-35)

Hello @hermeneutics,

It was the rulers within Israel that were instrumental in Christ's death, whereas, ' the common people heard His gladly' (Mar 12:37). Yet, even so, our Lord prayed for them all, that His Father would forgive them, for, said He, '... they know not what they do ...' .

'And when they heard that,
they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said,
.. "Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth,
.... and the sea, and all that in them is:
...... Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said,
........ Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?
The kings of the earth stood up,
.. and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord,
.... and against His Christ.
For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, Whom thou hast anointed,
.. both Herod,
.... and Pontius Pilate,
...... with the Gentiles,
........ and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
.......... For to do whatsoever Thy hand and Thy counsel determined before to be done. ... "'
(Acts 4:24-28)

* Herod, Pontius Pilate, the Gentiles and the people of Israel, did whatsoever God Himself had pre-determined to be done.

Praise His Holy Name!

In Christ Jesus
Chris

charity said:

'And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified Him,
and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.
Then said Jesus, "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."
.. And they parted His raiment, and cast lots.
.... And the people stood beholding.
...... And the rulers also with them derided Him, saying,
........ "He saved others; let Him save Himself, if He be Christ, the chosen of God."'
(Luke 23:33-35)

Hello @hermeneutics,

It was the rulers within Israel that were instrumental in Christ's death, whereas, ' the common people heard His gladly' (Mar 12:37). Yet, even so, our Lord prayed for them all, that His Father would forgive them, for, said He, '... they know not what they do ...' .

'And when they heard that,
they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said,
.. "Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth,
.... and the sea, and all that in them is:
...... Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said,
........ Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?
The kings of the earth stood up,
.. and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord,
.... and against His Christ.
For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, Whom thou hast anointed,
.. both Herod,
.... and Pontius Pilate,
...... with the Gentiles,
........ and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
.......... For to do whatsoever Thy hand and Thy counsel determined before to be done. ... "'
(Acts 4:24-28)

* Herod, Pontius Pilate, the Gentiles and the people of Israel, did whatsoever God Himself had pre-determined to be done.

Praise His Holy Name!

In Christ Jesus
Chris

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Luk 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

Mar 15:9 But Pilate answered them, saying, Will ye that I release unto you the King of the Jews?
Mar 15:10 For he knew that the chief priests had delivered him for envy.
Mar 15:11 But the chief priests moved the people, that he should rather release Barabbas unto them.
Mar 15:12 And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
Mar 15:13 And they cried out again, Crucify him.
Mar 15:14 Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.

* Herod, Killed all the children under two years of age trying to kill Jesus.

Scribes and Pharisees along with Herod were of a mixed race that came from Esau, whom God hated.

aspen said:

hey, Jesus wasn’t a Christian either......in fact, (say it with me) he was a Jew!

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Jesus and his disciples were true Jews, save one. The scribes and Pharisees were of Esau.

Luk 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

Mar 15:9 But Pilate answered them, saying, Will ye that I release unto you the King of the Jews?
Mar 15:10 For he knew that the chief priests had delivered him for envy.
Mar 15:11 But the chief priests moved the people, that he should rather release Barabbas unto them.
Mar 15:12 And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
Mar 15:13 And they cried out again, Crucify him.
Mar 15:14 Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.

* Herod, Killed all the children under two years of age trying to kill Jesus.

Scribes and Pharisees along with Herod were of a mixed race that came from Esau, whom God hated.

hermeneutics said:

Luk 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

Mar 15:9 But Pilate answered them, saying, Will ye that I release unto you the King of the Jews?
Mar 15:10 For he knew that the chief priests had delivered him for envy.
Mar 15:11 But the chief priests moved the people, that he should rather release Barabbas unto them.
Mar 15:12 And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
Mar 15:13 And they cried out again, Crucify him.
Mar 15:14 Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.

* Herod, Killed all the children under two years of age trying to kill Jesus.

Scribes and Pharisees along with Herod were of a mixed race that came from Esau, whom God hated.

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Hello @hermeneutics,

Would you please tell me where I can find the evidence to prove that the Scribes and Pharisees were, as you say (quote) '... of a mixed race that came from Esau ...'? - I have found something online which says that Herod himself descended from the Edomites - Esau's offspring, but nothing which says the same about the scribes and pharisees.

* The Herod (known as 'Herod the Great') who was responsible for the death of the babes under two years old in the region of Bethlehem at the time of Jesus birth, in an attempt to kill Him, died in that same year (4AD). He was the father of Herod Antipas, ruler in Galilee, who was instrumental in the death of Christ, therefore succeeding where his father failed.

* The word 'hated' spoken of in regard to Esau, had the meaning of loving less, that the elder son (Esau) should serve the younger (Jacob), for from Jacob the line of the promised seed would come. Esau indeed was greatly blessed by God, though not in the way that Jacob was, from whose loins the seed of the Messiah would come.

Praise God!

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

charity said:

Hello @hermeneutics,

Would you please tell me where I can find the evidence to prove that the Scribes and Pharisees were, as you say (quote) '... of a mixed race that came from Esau ...'? - I have found something online which says that Herod himself descended from the Edomites - Esau's offspring, but nothing which says the same about the scribes and pharisees.

* The Herod (known as 'Herod the Great') who was responsible for the death of the babes under two years old in the region of Bethlehem at the time of Jesus birth, in an attempt to kill Him, died in that same year (4AD). He was the father of Herod Antipas, ruler in Galilee, who was instrumental in the death of Christ, therefore succeeding where his father failed.

* The word 'hated' spoken of in regard to Esau, had the meaning of loving less, that the elder son (Esau) should serve the younger (Jacob), for from Jacob the line of the promised seed would come. Esau indeed was greatly blessed by God, though not in the way that Jacob was, from whose loins the seed of the Messiah would come.

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Herod was an Edomite, but the scribes and Pharisees were definitely not mixed in with Edomites. They had very strict rules about Jewish/Levitical lineage, to qualify for such positions. Such records were kept in the Temple, going all the way back to Abraham, as is demonstrated in Matthew's recorded lineage for Jesus.

As for your contention that "The word 'hated' spoken of in regard to Esau, had the meaning of loving less", is not true. I have done intensive study on the word 'hate" used there, and it definitely means 'hate' in it's most virulent form!

God has promised destruction of Edom, the progeny of Esau who are centred around Mecca from Teman to Dedan (Ezekiel 25:13) He is going to turn their oil into rivers of fire:

"For My sword is satiated in heaven,
Behold it shall descend for judgment upon Edom
And upon the people whom I have devoted to destruction

For the Lord has a day of vengeance,
A year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

Its streams will be turned into pitch,
And its loose earth into brimstone,
And its land will become burning pitch.

It will not be quenched night or day;
Its smoke will go up forever.
From generation to generation it will be desolate;
None will pass through it forever and ever."
Isaiah 34:8

aspen said:

Jewish people are great - I am just not a fan of the government of Israel. However, at least they were not stupid enough to assassinate Qassem Soleimani.

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Oh poor Qassem, he loved all Americans just like you do, no doubt ?
Jewish people are lost in fact and in a very sad state of being, because they are devoid of the Holy Spirit.
Only people who are truly born again are great in the eyes of the Lord Jesus. did you know that Aspen.

aspen said:

Jewish people are great - I am just not a fan of the government of Israel. However, at least they were not stupid enough to assassinate Qassem Soleimani.

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Typical Left-Liberal nonsense. Obviously the craven media would rather call it an assassination than the correct term -- execution of a war criminal. Of course, now the Leftists are embracing the enemies of America, just as Obama gave billions to Iran so that Israel and America could be attacked and terrorized daily. Amazing why no one is calling this treason on the part of the Left.

hermeneutics said:

Jews are not Christian, it's been over 2000 years that Jesus was crucified by the Jews and, as far as I can see, most if not all, are still anti-Christ.

Mar 15:12 And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
Mar 15:13 And they cried out again, Crucify him.

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I would say that most Christians are Anti-Christ as well some what, but for the truly born again who are the only ones who truly serve Jesus Christ.
Any Christian who looks up to the Jews is a fool or worse a Satanist in fact.

I never heard anyone hold Jews in high regard as to the Bible in regards to Jesus, as all Christians seen Jews as just worldly degenerates who were totally lost just as any fool is. but Christians held out their hand to help anyone up to become enlightened as to Christ Jesus, such had nothing to do with a race or Tribe, it was just that the lost were hoped to be found. but about from the 1990's a madness kicked off twisting things around and started to hold the Jews in high regard and this pox grew into a madness that it is nowadays.

I remember coming to a new Church in 1977 and the Priest with the elders said about my linage being Jewish straight up about where did this Christian begin in my family, I said I do not know but I am the 4th generation in Australia that is Christian and that the one who came here was also a Christian, but before him we do not know. there was no hatred of the Jews on their part, even next door to that Church was a Jew that came over complaining at times when were at Bible study telling us that we were wrong doing X Y and Z. but no ill will was ever given too him at all and we in fact would come in to use this Jews phone at times and he was always happy to do so. he was ok for an old buzzard but just wrong.

I never seen any hatred being handed out to the Jews at all. but that the story was they were wrong, that for sure was made totally clear. and that was a Lutheran Church, same thing was in regard to C of E and RCC and others that I went to.

Jews will always try to crucify all Christians if they can, because they Hate Jesus Christ and that is a fact and anyone who rejects such a fact is a moron.

CovenantPromise said:

You do know that there are two trains of thought which come out of Rome? The one that has set herself up as having dominion over the gospel ,while shmoozing with kings is the harlot body. And that harlot body yes has a large number of Catholics but it consist of all religious harlots of all denominations. But since the Catholic denomination holds the most truths, it is the biggest whore before God. But those who are given increase , the Spirit of quickening, will shed all the influence of the harlot body and not only hold the most truth, but will be given even more and will become the End time Elect perfect bride. That because they have preserved the most truth.

It is the glorious time of the harvest, glorious but also very revealing. The wheat and the weeds have grown together to this time. Now all reaping is happening. You will be surprised where the weeds are placed. The great falling away???.... well the harlots are going to possess the mortar and stone facades while the truly Elect are the temple. Wickedness on high places....on the back of the beast will all harlots of religion ride. You know who they are, they fornicate with the kings of the earth. Do you know the meaning of that?
Oh and if it is worth anything , I am no bro , I am a woman of God.

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I agree and I know the meaning of that for sure.
All Churches have fallen, Satan is within and controlling all, that is clear to see nowadays.

aspen said:

hey, Jesus wasn’t a Christian either......in fact, (say it with me) he was a Jew!

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No most correctly He is the 'Anointed One'= Hebrew -Meshiach = Greek- Christos = English-Christ. Christian means follower of the 'Anointed One'and /or 'Anointed Ones of Christ'

Enoch111 said:

Typical Left-Liberal nonsense. Obviously the craven media would rather call it an assassination than the correct term -- execution of a war criminal. Of course, now the Leftists are embracing the enemies of America, just as Obama gave billions to Iran so that Israel and America could be attacked and terrorized daily. Amazing why no one is calling this treason on the part of the Left.

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hmm.....so it would be ok with you if W Bush was killed by Iraqis for his crimes against humanity? I am sure they view him as a war criminal

Stan B said:

Herod was an Edomite, but the scribes and Pharisees were definitely not mixed in with Edomites. They had very strict rules about Jewish/Levitical lineage, to qualify for such positions. Such records were kept in the Temple, going all the way back to Abraham, as is demonstrated in Matthew's recorded lineage for Jesus.

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Hello @Stan B,

I thought that was the case, thank you.

As for your contention that "The word 'hated' spoken of in regard to Esau, had the meaning of loving less", is not true. I have done intensive study on the word 'hate" used there, and it definitely means 'hate' in it's most virulent form!

God has promised destruction of Edom, the progeny of Esau who are centred around Mecca from Teman to Dedan (Ezekiel 25:13) He is going to turn their oil into rivers of fire:

"For My sword is satiated in heaven,
Behold it shall descend for judgment upon Edom
And upon the people whom I have devoted to destruction

For the Lord has a day of vengeance,
A year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

Its streams will be turned into pitch,
And its loose earth into brimstone,
And its land will become burning pitch.

It will not be quenched night or day;
Its smoke will go up forever.
From generation to generation it will be desolate;
None will pass through it forever and ever."
Isaiah 34:8

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* No 'contention': thank you for the benefit of your study, it is much appreciated.

In Christ Jesus
Chris