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QUOTE (Guest_Sam_* @ Feb 27 2009, 05:57 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70023
Hi, my question was if it is okay for a Christian to watch Pokemon. I have been a Christian for pretty much my whole life and I have been watching Pokemon since I was young. My parents are Christian too, but they say it's just a cartoon so it's okay. But then again I read in many different places online saying that you shouldn't let your children watch Pokemon because it's "satanic." Here are a few examples of what I am talking about:http://www.carm.org/more-stuff/features/pokemon-what-ithttp://www.fillthevoid.org/Children/Pokemon.htmlhttp://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/pokemon5-99.htmlI really love watching Pokemon, I don't want to quit. Can you guys give me your opinions on this?
Everything should be done in moderation. Watching TV itself is not a sin... but everything can be a sin. Do not excess anything.Philippians 4:5 - Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.I Corinthians 6:12 - All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.I Corinthians 10:23 - All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.It's called self-control. Do not excess anything as everything can be dangerous. To be honest, I sometimes watch Pokemon...

Hi Sam, I have a son who was into Pokemon for a few years. He is now 19 and at University so he discarded the whole thing years ago. I don't know all the ins and outs of Pokemon (I did go into the link you left) and I don't know how old you are. I observed with my son that it was a bit addictive especially if his friends were really into it as well. I would imagine that (as with many things) it is harmful and addictive if you get deeply into it and start living your life around it. As a light collectors hobby though it is fine to just collect the cards without going into all the other stuff. If you find you cannot give it up and get on with real life then alarm bells should be ringing.

Like most things, Pokemon can gain control over your life if you let it. I know people who are trapped in it, that they boast about the new ones they got or something like that. I myself have played it in moderation (I'm only 18), but I have not let it become a master of me. And that is important to understand.

Also think about this. Jesus calls us to be Not of this world, but to walk in his Spirit, and to come out of this world. Pokemon might not be harmful on it's own, but it could be a stepping stone for you to fall into even graver worldiness, so guard your heart with the word of the Lord.

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One preacher made this statement that is so true, "What do you talk
about most? There's your God. What do you think about most? There's your
God. What do you have your eyes set upon? There is your mission and
your God and your heart and your treasure."

Hamster said:

Like most things, Pokemon can gain control over your life if you let it. I know people who are trapped in it, that they boast about the new ones they got or something like that. I myself have played it in moderation (I'm only 18), but I have not let it become a master of me. And that is important to understand.

Also think about this. Jesus calls us to be Not of this world, but to walk in his Spirit, and to come out of this world. Pokemon might not be harmful on it's own, but it could be a stepping stone for you to fall into even graver worldiness, so guard your heart with the word of the Lord.

Someone else on this board said this


One preacher made this statement that is so true, "What do you talk
about most? There's your God. What do you think about most? There's your
God. What do you have your eyes set upon? There is your mission and
your God and your heart and your treasure."

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Nothing in the bible says "Thou shalt not watch Pokemon."
God gave all people a conscience and a mind to think for themselves and have no need to be led by the laws of religion no matter who says cartoons are satanic. Those who think they are satanic are the people who ought not be watching them in case the devil hypnotizes them or something. They have no right to be telling other people what to do. Religions tend to rule people with their laws and rituals and by creating fear in them.
If people do something wrong their conscience soon tells them. They don't need other people to tell them or judge them for their actions.

Skyangel said:

They have no right to be telling other people what to do.

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So what gives one the right to tell others they have no right to do something?

forgivenWretch said:

So what gives one the right to tell others they have no right to do something?

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The Authority and Wisdom of God.

It looks like it has a lot of make-believe, and it has challenges that a kid and older people might enjoy.

But how about where this is taking our *attention* ??? Satan is after our *attention*, to keep us from dealing with the most important challenge of finding out how to share with God and submit to how He is ruling us in His peace: "And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15)

And there is the challenge of learning how to relate in love with any and all people. We need to become strong enough to deal with any people, at all, no matter how they slight us and fail us, no matter how it turns out that we can't use somebody for what we want. If we are escaping to games, instead of dealing with these challenges of God's kingdom of loving, this can keep us weak so it is easy for us to get hurt and then Satan can keep us weak enough to keep suffering in boredom and loneliness and worry and anger and fears and unforgiveness. Games can be a pacifier to baby people with the wrong father, while they keep on staying weak so he can control them with his dominating and dictatorial drives for pleasures that we use to try to make our feelings of misery and confusion go away.

"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29) Only with Jesus can we learn how to share with our Father and love any and all people.

In the United States, where I live, it is clear, from our fifty-percent divorce rate, that a "number" of kids have not been brought up to find out how to love so they know how to make their marriages work. Ones have "perhaps" gotten married to games and drugs and sexual pleasure seeking, instead. In my case, I have discovered how watching a TV action show or football game is not quite as challenging as finding out in prayer how to love another person. And, I'll offer, the challenge of learning how to love any person is much more interesting.

skyangel said:

The Authority and Wisdom of God.

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Which is given to one who hates Christians?

forgivenWretch said:

So what gives one the right to tell others they have no right to do something?

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If something is not good for a person, then you tell the person because you care about the person. So, it is not a "right", but we need to love people, by telling them the truth.


Also, in our example of political people trying to get laws about morals, it is not only for telling other people what is wrong. But we ourselves need to know what is wrong; that's a basic thing, to have laws which fit together with what is really right for us. And certainly there are people who are ok about doing very wrong things, and they would gladly make their wrong things legal.


However . . . no law can make a person love. The law is meant to help to escort us, but we need personal guiding of God and the help of one another Christians. God has it this way, that He includes us in how He helps us, using us to help one another, "teaching and admonishing one another," our Apostle Paul says in Colossians 3:16.

Also, "Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted." (Galatians 6:1) So, God includes us in restoring one another when ones of us have gone the wrong way; and we need to know right from wrong, in order to do this. We do not just have a "right" to do this, we have God's love making us honest and caring and able: "And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment." (Philippians 1:9) So, in God's love we have sense; and, of course, people will say we "hate" them when we say we can't accept wrong things. Well, little kids can say their own parents "hate" them, when parents know better and insist on what they know is right for their children!!!

forgivenWretch said:

Which is given to one who hates Christians?

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The wisdom and Authority of God is given to those who hate what God hates.
God hates all hypocrites and lukewarm half hearted followers regardless of religion. They make Him sick. God hates false doctrines and warns people to not be seduced by them.

Luke 12:1 Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

So you are saying God hates Christians?

Bill said:

It looks like it has a lot of make-believe, and it has challenges that a kid and older people might enjoy.

But how about where this is taking our *attention* ??? Satan is after our *attention*, to keep us from dealing with the most important challenge of finding out how to share with God and submit to how He is ruling us in His peace: "And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15)

And there is the challenge of learning how to relate in love with any and all people. We need to become strong enough to deal with any people, at all, no matter how they slight us and fail us, no matter how it turns out that we can't use somebody for what we want. If we are escaping to games, instead of dealing with these challenges of God's kingdom of loving, this can keep us weak so it is easy for us to get hurt and then Satan can keep us weak enough to keep suffering in boredom and loneliness and worry and anger and fears and unforgiveness. Games can be a pacifier to baby people with the wrong father, while they keep on staying weak so he can control them with his dominating and dictatorial drives for pleasures that we use to try to make our feelings of misery and confusion go away.

"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29) Only with Jesus can we learn how to share with our Father and love any and all people.

In the United States, where I live, it is clear, from our fifty-percent divorce rate, that a "number" of kids have not been brought up to find out how to love so they know how to make their marriages work. Ones have "perhaps" gotten married to games and drugs and sexual pleasure seeking, instead. In my case, I have discovered how watching a TV action show or football game is not quite as challenging as finding out in prayer how to love another person. And, I'll offer, the challenge of learning how to love any person is much more interesting.

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Satan has got people's attention in a far more subtle way by making them believe they are following Jesus when they are really following a false Christ.
He makes them think they are saved or born again as they continue in sin so grace may abound.
He preaches false doctrines which deceive them and lead them astray on wild goose chases or give them false hopes of a literal return of a man floating down from the sky one day in the unknown future.
Satan leads people into a religious fantasy land and away from the reality of the Real Jesus Christ who is always with them. Those who have eyes to see can always see Him and don't bother waiting for the return of someone who is with them always and never leaves them. To be waiting for the return of someone who never left you in the first place is as ridiculous as waiting for yourself to return to yourself when you never leave yourself.. It sends people on wild goose chases trying to find themselves because they lost themselves somewhere along the line.

forgivenWretch said:

So you are saying God hates Christians?

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I am saying God hates Christian hypocrites and Christian sinners as much as He hates Pharisee hypocrites/sinners or any other hypocrites and religious sinners in any other religion. Just because a person labels themselves Christian does not make them righteous or saved or anything they claim to be. Those who are born of God cannot sin and as long as people keep sinning they are of the devil. Those are Gods words not mine.

1 John 3:8-9 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Well since you claim to be Him, and say you hate Christians, then you are implying that God hates His own. Oh and I'm so sorry, I forgot you are perfect and without sin.

forgivenWretch said:

Well since you claim to be Him, and say you hate Christians, then you are implying that God hates His own. Oh and I'm so sorry, I forgot you are perfect and without sin.

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Would you mind showing me exactly where you see me claiming to be God?
I never claimed any such thing. I am in Christ and Christ is in me in the same way Jesus is in the Father and the Father is in Him. We are one.
Jesus made us one. I am that I am.

John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

First off you claim you can not sin and are perfect, in and of itself a lie (or should I say a sin). Secondly your Holier than thou attitude you take with everyone.

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First off you claim you can not sin and are perfect, in and of itself a lie (or should I say a sin). Secondly your Holier than thou attitude you take with everyone.

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Do you think you are any better than I am ? Are you holier than me?
I am that I am. I am as perfect as Jesus made me. I can sin as much as Jesus can sin. I don't want to sin any more than Jesus wants to sin. The ability to sin is never taken away from any man and was not taken away from Jesus either. Jesus had the ability to sin the same as any other man has the ability to sin. Sin was in Jesus in the same way it is in all people. if it was not, He would not have been able to be tempted and tested like any other man. Having sin in you does not mean you are obligated to sin any more than Jesus was obligated to sin. Jesus set an example of saying NO to all temptations to disobey the Father and stray from His will.

Think of it this way. Following Jesus leads you to the Right or Forward. Following the devil leads you to the Left or Backward. You simply cannot walk right/ forward and left/ backward at the same time. You are either walking one way or the other way. It is impossible to walk both ways at once. If you are following Jesus you simply cannot sin as long as you are following Him and doing exactly the same as he does because he does not lead anyone into sin. The Holy Spirit may lead you into trials and testings but never into sin. The trials and tests are through temptations to see if you will remain faithful to the Lord or not. Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tested and tried, by being tempted of the devil.
The Lord leads all His sons and daughters along the same path. When we get through that wilderness and understand how to overcome the devil, we are overcomers, and not until then are we mature enough in the Lord to preach the gospel. Jesus preached nothing till after his trials and temptations. He began preaching after he had overcome all the temptations.

Too many sinners are preaching a false gospel and promoting a false Christ who does not take away sin or make anyone an overcomer but merely allows them to think they get a free ticket to heaven by simply believing a man named Jesus died on the cross and paid for their sins so they can continue to do them as long as they can make the excuse that they cant help themselves and as long as they believe that Jesus understands what spiritual babies they are and will keep changing their nappies for them daily whenever they cry and make a fuss about their discomfort..
The Lord does change the "nappies of the babies" daily but He also expects them to grow up eventually and start taking the responsibility He gave them. Why do so many prefer to remain babies and take no responsibility for themselves and do what Jesus to do?
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Nothing hard about that when all it takes is following Jesus and saying and doing the same as He did, does and always will do. It's simply a matter of following His perfect example..

skyangel said:

Do you think you are any better than I am ? Are you holier than me?
I am that I am. I am as perfect as Jesus made me. I can sin as much as Jesus can sin. I don't want to sin any more than Jesus wants to sin. The ability to sin is never taken away from any man and was not taken away from Jesus either. Jesus had the ability to sin the same as any other man has the ability to sin. Sin was in Jesus in the same way it is in all people. if it was not, He would not have been able to be tempted and tested like any other man. Having sin in you does not mean you are obligated to sin any more than Jesus was obligated to sin. Jesus set an example of saying NO to all temptations to disobey the Father and stray from His will.
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sa, I don't know who you 'think' you are, but you are not!

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