Aussie fires....

Nancy · Jan 5, 2020

brakelite said:
Here's the current warning maps for NSW View attachment 8275 View attachment 8276

This is so monumentally sad

Helen · Jan 5, 2020

brakelite said:
It was horrifying to learn the number of arsonists arrested in this role scenario. Like 50 in NSW? And even a volunteer fireman in Victoria! What is it with people that would do such a thing? Insanity comes to mind... But demonic activity perhaps more so, or a combination of both.
The whole on the north island of NZ is now under smoke...2000 ks away. View attachment 8310

Oh my word...It is dreadful...so very very sorry.

We get the same here . Fire fighters who want work.. but more so the native indians...they want the work so they often set the fires...it always happens.

Hugs ...H

Nancy · Jan 5, 2020

I remember how bad it was for you @Helen and Dave 2 summers ago, you (especially you) had to wear masks in your house.
@brakelite , I totally agree that the demonic is behind all of this, we need some serious prayers lifted up. We're praying on our FB Page Woman on the Warpath. God bless and keep you and yours.

amadeus · Jan 5, 2020

Continuing to pray for Australia!

brakelite · Jan 5, 2020

Thanks all for your prayers. Thankyou Lord for hearing and answering... At the moment light showers and cooler temperatures are outgoing across the whole area, but hot and dry conditions are expected later in the week. The are some communities in East Gippsland that have not been in contact and are still isolated and with no access. Scary what the authorities might find when they can get there. 25 deaths so far and several missing. There are 166 or so fires burning in New South Wales and Victoria, and another 100 or more in South Australia, western Australia, and Tasmania, some joining up with others, many uncontrolled. So far the area affected is about the size of West Virginia... Just for some perspective. The numbers of deaths and homes destroyed (so far around 1600) is expected to rise significantly.
Please keep praying, God is merciful and gracious... May He receive all the glory and may many come to know Him as a result of reaching out amidst this crisis.

Nancy · Jan 5, 2020

brakelite said:
Thanks all for your prayers. Thankyou Lord for hearing and answering... At the moment light showers and cooler temperatures are outgoing across the whole area, but hot and dry conditions are expected later in the week. The are some communities in East Gippsland that have not been in contact and are still isolated and with no access. Scary what the authorities might find when they can get there. 22 deaths so far and several missing. There are 166 or so fires burning, some joining up with others, many uncontrolled. So far the area affected is about the size of West Virginia... Just for some perspective. Please keep praying, God is merciful and gracious... May He receive all the glory and may many come to know Him as a result of reaching out amidst this crisis.

I just pretty much prayed the same thing @Brakelight . I am praying for torrential downpours!

brakelite · Jan 5, 2020

Nancy said:
I just pretty much prayed the same thing @Brakelight . I am praying for torrential downpours!

Yes. I have edited that post with more up to date information

Butterfly · Jan 6, 2020

Brakelite , I saw an area map of Australia from a satelight - I didn't realise that there are fires right across Australia - I thought it was mainly on one side.
Where is everyone heading for safety ?
Just praying for rain - or something that can turn this all around, definately needs a miracle.
That's awful about people starting fires, more so when it's not rocket science that it's going to spread and create so many problems with all the high temps over there at the moment.
Keep safe xxxx
Rita

brakelite · Jan 6, 2020

For those of you living in Britain, some perspective....

Butterfly · Jan 6, 2020

Thanks for the prospective - by the way, I live in Brighton x
Australia has been on my heart so much - any sign of more rain x

brakelite · Jan 6, 2020

It's raining now lightly and cooler, but hour temporaries expected later in the week. Two big fires are expected to join up at some time which had authorities very concerned... Such an occurrence creates is own dangerous weather. Ironically the rain now falling is hampering efforts to prepare for that.
Smoke everywhere today. Visibility and air quality very poor here in Melbourne.
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Reggie Belafonte · Jan 6, 2020

Enoch111 said:
Australians and the world needs to know the truth about the reason for this tragedy (from Breitbart News)

[Having shown the real climatic conditions over long periods of time, the author says]...So, to be clear, there is zero evidence of any change in climatic conditions that might have increased the likelihood or severity of these bush fires. This is not — repeat NOT — a man-made climate change story, and anyone who claims otherwise is either a gullible idiot or a lying charlatan.

There is, nonetheless, good reason to believe that the stupidity and irresponsibility of man is at least partly to blame for this disaster — just not quite in the way that the left-liberal MSM and the green wankerati would have you believe.

Man-made culprit #1: all the firebugs who have been deliberately starting fires in New South Wales, Queensland, and elsewhere. You won’t be surprised that their involvement has had very little coverage in the left-liberal MSM. Here’s a story from December headlined ‘Firebugs blamed for destructive Queensland fires’ — it notes: Figures obtained by AAP reveal 98 people – 31 adults and 67 juveniles – have been dealt with by Queensland police for deliberately setting fires. A 16-year-old boy was found to have started a fire that razed 14 homes in central Queensland and dealt with under the state’s Youth Justice Act. Two more teens, 14 and 15, were charged with endangering property by fire over a blaze that destroyed two homes and forced hundreds to flee.

Man-made culprit #2: well-meaning idiots who don’t understand that unless you manage forested areas with controlled burns, you’re going to end up with out-of-control wildfires. Jo Nova has a damning story about locals in East Gippsland in the state of Victoria who successfully stopped a planned controlled burn at Nowa Nowa. Two of them were pictured holding signs saying, “Spring burns kill baby birds alive” and “Stop burning nesting birds”. One grandmother was quoted as saying, “I’m more worried about climate change, and the impact the burns are having. I’m worried for my grandchildren.” ABC — the excruciatingly left-wing Australian Broadcasting Company, so woke it makes the BBC and CNN look like Fox News — reported on the protests with some enthusiasm last September but has since mysteriously decided to delete the story from Facebook.

If this is the kind of obstructive idiocy that the mainstream media and the junk-science climate alarmism industry have created with their global warming propaganda, then the mainstream media and the junk-science climate alarmism industry have blood on their hands.

Man-made culprit #3: Greens The people most to blame for the Australian bush fires are the greens. Just like in California, their tree-hugging Gaia worship blinded them to the reality that forests need regular clearance and maintenance if they are not to become a major fire hazard.

Some Australian politicians on the right side of the argument are well aware of this: “The problems we have got have been created by the Greens,” Mr [Barnaby] Joyce told The Australian. “We haven’t had the capacity to easily access (hazard) reduction burns because of all of the paperwork that is part of green policy. “We don’t have access to dams because they have been decommissioned on national parks because of green policy. We have trees that have fallen over vehicles and block roads, so people cannot either get access to fight a fire or to get away from fires. And we can’t knock over the trees because of Greens policy.

Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack has lashed the “disgraceful, disgusting” behaviour of “raving inner-city lunatics” for linking climate change to the ferocious bushfires burning across Queensland and NSW.
Delingpole: Environmentalists Made Australia's Bush Fires Worse

Yes that's all true.

It's the gutless political party's that are total responsible for the fires that have got out of hand. not to mention that it is just morons who are lighting most of the fires.

What the media peddle is a insane agenda to force the Climate Change on all and that is the main thing that they are pushing as much as they can.

I have seen that many fires on TV that shows fires started just beside a road and fires at the side of the road heading back into the bush away from the road, such must of been back burning but the media never said that.

I have even seen firemen hosing so much crap that is better left to burn out, so that it's gone. you let all that crap burn out so it's less fuel if another fire comes through in the years ahead and that's the main problem that they don't understand, it's all about making sure that such fuel is kept down to a manageable task if a fire starts, so fire crew can say ok we are going into X and we can deal with it all within a regard to reasonable safety of fire fighters and homes, anything other than that is no excuse at all, someone has to take the blame if a house is burnt down.

I would not go into many places if I was in the fire crew nowadays even if I was a healthy young bloke, no way would I go into such places because the tracks and fire brake's are all over grown. It's hard getting a dirt bike through that stuff nowadays, we could not keep many tracks rideable as trees are down and it's all over grown, not even people walk through now in some places as they could get lost. real nice places that people would come out to camp and now it's all abandoned and the place looks like crap, all sorts of rubbish like lantana etc are a now shocking out of control.
The Greens are the number one problem and the blood is on their hands and the lefty's are as well because they are in bed with them and half of the right wing are just as much a gutless bunch of idiots, because they are city people who are total ignorant.

Barnaby Joyce is correct, but the media slander him for all that they are worth 24/7

Nancy · Jan 6, 2020

brakelite said:
It's raining now lightly and cooler, but hour temporaries expected later in the week. Two big fires are expected to join up at some time which had authorities very concerned... Such an occurrence creates is own dangerous weather. Ironically the rain now falling is hampering efforts to prepare for that.
Smoke everywhere today. Visibility and air quality very poor here in Melbourne.
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It's a comforting thing to know we have a God of impossibilities.
Open up your sky's Lord! Only your hand can do this Father and we all pray in belief and agreement. In Christ's Name, AMEN!

brakelite · Jan 6, 2020

Reggie Belafonte said:
Yes that's all true.

It's the gutless political party's that are total responsible for the fires that have got out of hand. not to mention that it is just morons who are lighting most of the fires.

What the media peddle is a insane agenda to force the Climate Change on all and that is the main thing that they are pushing as much as they can.

I have seen that many fires on TV that shows fires started just beside a road and fires at the side of the road heading back into the bush away from the road, such must of been back burning but the media never said that.

I have even seen firemen hosing so much crap that is better left to burn out, so that it's gone. you let all that crap burn out so it's less fuel if another fire comes through in the years ahead and that's the main problem that they don't understand, it's all about making sure that such fuel is kept down to a manageable task if a fire starts, so fire crew can say ok we are going into X and we can deal with it all within a regard to reasonable safety of fire fighters and homes, anything other than that is no excuse at all, someone has to take the blame if a house is burnt down.

I would not go into many places if I was in the fire crew nowadays even if I was a healthy young bloke, no way would I go into such places because the tracks and fire brake's are all over grown. It's hard getting a dirt bike through that stuff nowadays, we could not keep many tracks rideable as trees are down and it's all over grown, not even people walk through now in some places as they could get lost. real nice places that people would come out to camp and now it's all abandoned and the place looks like crap, all sorts of rubbish like lantana etc are a now shocking out of control.
The Greens are the number one problem and the blood is on their hands and the lefty's are as well because they are in bed with them and half of the right wing are just as much a gutless bunch of idiots, because they are city people who are total ignorant.

Barnaby Joyce is correct, but the media slander him for all that they are worth 24/7

Yes Reggie, true that mate. The political parties kowtow to the tiny vocal groups out of fear. Tree huggers... Wrongly misled environmentalists... Emotional appeals to save the forests... Are in reality destroying them. I drove through Kinglake a few months ago where they had that mega fire that destroyed whole towns...2000 houses and a1000 other buildings in 2009. Arson and lightening caused that one... Not climate. Officials reckon arson and/negligence is responsible for %85 of fires for which no explanation can be determined... Which is a lot of fires. And apart from the black colour on the bark of the trees through Kinglake, the forest there is now doing great. In fact, once the undergrowth and debris is gone, the forest itself thrives... More light on the floor to give growth... More room on the floor to sprout seed. Sadly, in super heated fires that melt metal, the soil itself is burnt and damaged which takes a lot of time to recover.
You are right. The political parties are coward... They know what is right but knowingly do wrong for the sake of popularity.

marksman · Jan 6, 2020

brakelite said:
I'm not Australian, although my great grandfather was born here, in Bendigo. I'm from New Zealand, 2000 ks over the ditch. Here in Melbourne where I have been living the past 3 years, we find ourselves in the middle, as in Sydney in NSW, of a Victorian disaster that is ongoing, and seemingly without any end any time soon. The smoke from the fires now raging in Queensland, South Australia, Victoria, and New South Wales, is so thick and widespread it is clearly affecting visibility in my home country 2000 ks away. This is unprecedented. Regardless of the why's of the current situation, we need rain. There are entire towns now being evacuated because they can no longer live in their own homes, either because they now don't have any, or that the danger is to great to stay. And the only escape route is by sea. The entire South East coast of Australia is either on fire now, or will be. The situation in NSW interior and coastal regions is no better. The area so far burnt is more than 15,000,000 acres. That's a quarter the size of NZ.
Tomorrow, Friday, is expected to be another extreme danger situation heat wise, with temperatures again threatening 110F.
It's time to pray please for all those in this country who are in imminent danger and are trapped... or homeless, without communications, food, or water. 1000s are affected. Please pray for Australia.

And it is very important to sort out the wheat from the chaff in what you have heard is the cause of it all.

I have been following this for about two months now reading all I can about the situation, and like most things, there are two sides to every story. In this case, one is the truth and the other is a lie. The lie is that climate change is responsible for this disaster, which is complete rubbish. Several commentators who are supposed to be intelligent have said the fires are caused by the fact that the government has approved the Adani Coal Mine in Queensland. Seeing as not a single piece of coal has been dug up yet, I fail to see the connection.

They refuse to believe what Israel Folau said in a sermon that it was God's judgment on the nation, but they will believe that climate change is the cause of the fires because we have coal mines that according to them should be shut down.

The fact is that these climate alarmists have grabbed anything they can to push their agenda and ideology. They keep telling us to listen to the experts and that is what I have done. Time and time again the experts, the firies themselves have said one thing over and over again. The cause of the fires are laid fairly and squarely at the feet of the Greens politicians in the Federal government, who have locked up the forests so that deadwood on the floor cannot be removed. They are a tinderbox and it only needs one spark to set them alight.

A firey on TV said that the forests have been locked up by the Greens so there are no longer tracks to get into the forest, hence the deadwood and the fires. Of course, the Green Party in parliament is denying all this and instead shouting Climate Change from the rooftops. They reckon if we close down society and get rid of CO2, there will be no fires, only those that you have to light to warm you in the caves you live in.

To add stupidity to stupidity, A climate alarmist has said in public that up to 80 million animals have perished in the fires. Yes, that is right. It started at 40 million but as it gained traction in the mad stream media, the climate alarmist saw that it was no good ruining a good story by telling the truth, so it escalated each day.

And of course, we won't mention the 57 arsonists that the police are looking for. I for the life of me do not know how climate changes a person into an arsonist.

Enoch111 · Jan 6, 2020

marksman said:
I for the life of me do not know how climate changes a person into an arsonist.

You have to be a whacked out Left-Liberal to believe this nonsense.
But there is also a sinister agenda behind the Climate Change Agenda.

brakelite · Jan 7, 2020

marksman said:
And it is very important to sort out the wheat from the chaff in what you have heard is the cause of it all.

I have been following this for about two months now reading all I can about the situation, and like most things, there are two sides to every story. In this case, one is the truth and the other is a lie. The lie is that climate change is responsible for this disaster, which is complete rubbish. Several commentators who are supposed to be intelligent have said the fires are caused by the fact that the government has approved the Adani Coal Mine in Queensland. Seeing as not a single piece of coal has been dug up yet, I fail to see the connection.

They refuse to believe what Israel Folau said in a sermon that it was God's judgment on the nation, but they will believe that climate change is the cause of the fires because we have coal mines that according to them should be shut down.

The fact is that these climate alarmists have grabbed anything they can to push their agenda and ideology. They keep telling us to listen to the experts and that is what I have done. Time and time again the experts, the firies themselves have said one thing over and over again. The cause of the fires are laid fairly and squarely at the feet of the Greens politicians in the Federal government, who have locked up the forests so that deadwood on the floor cannot be removed. They are a tinderbox and it only needs one spark to set them alight.

A firey on TV said that the forests have been locked up by the Greens so there are no longer tracks to get into the forest, hence the deadwood and the fires. Of course, the Green Party in parliament is denying all this and instead shouting Climate Change from the rooftops. They reckon if we close down society and get rid of CO2, there will be no fires, only those that you have to light to warm you in the caves you live in.

To add stupidity to stupidity, A climate alarmist has said in public that up to 80 million animals have perished in the fires. Yes, that is right. It started at 40 million but as it gained traction in the mad stream media, the climate alarmist saw that it was no good ruining a good story by telling the truth, so it escalated each day.

And of course, we won't mention the 57 arsonists that the police are looking for. I for the life of me do not know how climate changes a person into an arsonist.

Well said mate.

Naomi25 · Jan 7, 2020

brakelite said:
Yes Reggie, true that mate. The political parties kowtow to the tiny vocal groups out of fear. Tree huggers... Wrongly misled environmentalists... Emotional appeals to save the forests... Are in reality destroying them. I drove through Kinglake a few months ago where they had that mega fire that destroyed whole towns...2000 houses and a1000 other buildings in 2009. Arson and lightening caused that one... Not climate. Officials reckon arson and/negligence is responsible for %85 of fires for which no explanation can be determined... Which is a lot of fires. And apart from the black colour on the bark of the trees through Kinglake, the forest there is now doing great. In fact, once the undergrowth and debris is gone, the forest itself thrives... More light on the floor to give growth... More room on the floor to sprout seed. Sadly, in super heated fires that melt metal, the soil itself is burnt and damaged which takes a lot of time to recover.
You are right. The political parties are coward... They know what is right but knowingly do wrong for the sake of popularity.

The farmers have been calling for years, along with anyone else with a head on their shoulders, to allow for back-burning and a reduction in fuel load. We were all patted on our heads, told we were stupid 'environmental harmer/deniers' and to go away. Well, the toss pot Greenies have achieved their goal to save the habitats and animals...not. Billions of animals dead. Lives lost. Fires still raging out of control. And, of course, pollies doing what they do best; covering their own butts and looking for others to blame.
If you were to believe anything you read on the main-stream media sites, you'd think these fires started on their own because of the pure heat. And sure, its hot and dry. But the 87 arsonists arrested sure didn't help, did it?
The thing is, we now have millions and millions of hectares of unreachable, uncontrollable bushland. It's dry as tinder and some idiot lit a match. It will burn. Trying to put it out now is like using a water pistol on a volcano. The fires are so strong they are creating their own weather systems. I didn't know they could do that. But yep. And anything that hot....mate...the water won't even touch it.
So, the Greenies can point fingers, the media can salivate and hound the PM, and every one else has to live with the consequences. As usual.
Thankfully, we live hours and hours away from the sort of bushland that goes up like that, but even here it looks apocalyptic.

Naomi25 · Jan 7, 2020

Enoch111 said:
You have to be a whacked out Left-Liberal to believe this nonsense.
But there is also a sinister agenda behind the Climate Change Agenda.

Yeah...their all Commies. Here's how it goes: "We're all dead in 12 years unless you all do exactly as I say: stop eating that, stop shopping there, start working where I tell you, start buying what I tell you and follow my rules exactly."
It's communism. If you look at all the rabid climate nut cases, their all socialists or marxists or outright Communists.

brakelite · Jan 7, 2020

@Naomi25 . I'm also a couple of hours from the Gippsland fires, but live in the foothills of the Dandenong national Park which some idiot could set a match to any time. At least we do have easy escape routes... Not like those poor souls in the isolated communities and trapped.
I wonder if given the just media spotlight and the real bs motives and ideology became fully known and understood by the general public, the greens could possibly become a...nah... Too much to hope for.

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