It depends on whether or not Bush knew what our surrogates like Blackwater mercenaries were doing. I suspect that he did, but didn't know how to bring them under control, or didn't think it was a priority.
Why do so many christians Hate Israel..
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It depends on whether or not Bush knew what our surrogates like Blackwater mercenaries were doing. I suspect that he did, but didn't know how to bring them under control, or didn't think it was a priority.
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if they hate Israel, then they are not Christian, no matter what they may claim about themselves.
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What you are saying is correct in every way. There are still true Jews, case in fact Jesus' disciples were true Jews, save one. The scribes and Pharisees that hounded Jesus were not. When Paul went to Rome he, many times, spoke to them about Jesus. There were also these fake Jews, I say that because some of the world around Israel, as known then, accepted the Jewish religion and called themselves Jews and others were of mixed blood. These fake Jews literally drove Paul out of the country.
Keep the faith in Jesus name.
Not all the Pharisees were of the lineage of Levi, they adhered to the practices of the Levitical order.
Deuteronomy 23: 7Do not despise an Edomite, for he is your brother. Do not despise an Egyptian, because you lived as a foreigner in his land. 8The third generation of children born to them may enter the assembly of the LORD.
NO not every Pharisees was of the lineage of Levi , but every priest adhered to the Levitical order at least outwardly . What is correct to say is- The Edom still is, God will destroy them all. But they were accepted, and even Solomon married of Edomite women. The point is, God destroys out of our midst. God knows who they are. They were not refused admission among priest of Christ's time. Whether or not they were saved is another thing. But the ASSEMBLY meant - among the priest. That prophecy you post from Isaiah has yet to come to pass in its entirety . The land of the Edomite still is and men pass through it and inhabit to this day. that will come to an end. And the Edoms reach extends to many nations now. Esau not only married of Hetitite women( who had Nephilim Blood line) but also of Hebrews . He had many wives even of Ishmael's daughters . Esau had no Nephilim blood line and not all his wives were of Hetitite as I said. When Easu sold his birthright for some red stew , he lost grace with God, for his nonchalant approach to what should be held as sacred . He forfeited therefore, before he was tricked by his mother and brother. He simply, with their trick got what he deserved. So he was hated -NOT PERMITTED TO BE Of THE LINEAGE FROM WHICH CHRIST WOULD COME. Then to add insult to injury he married of Hetitites who had Nephilim blood line. They were , those wives and the children produced with them - rejected. God did not reject the children of the daughters of the Hebrews to enter the assembly. But many Pharisees had mingled blood because at that point many things were lost with the destruction of the first temple. But greater than that, the Edomites who lived among Hebrews(who were not children of Hetitites ) did intermarry and mingle again. As I point out , even Solomon had wives of them. There are a certain of the Edom Esau who were of Nephilim descent.
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I never said anything like that! I said "Jewish/Levitical lineage"!! I was mentioning two separate entities.
"But the Levitical priests, who are descended from Zadok and who kept charge of My sanctuary when the Israelites went astray from Me, are to approach Me to minister before Me. They will stand before Me to offer Me fat and blood, declares the Lord GOD. They alone shall enter My sanctuary and draw near to My table to minister before Me. They will keep My charge." Ezekiel 44
Genealogy and lineage has always been a vital aspect of God's plan for this world.
And those, like Steve Benner at U of Florida, who have studied Levitical DNA, find only a 1.5% variance in over 3500 years.
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God knows all things, and His will, will assuredly be done in regard to all these things.
'For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
.. lest ye should be wise in your own conceits;
.... that blindness in part is happened to Israel,
...... until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written,
.. There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer,
.... and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
...... For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes:
.. but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
.. For as ye in times past have not believed God,
.... yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
...... Even so have these also now not believed,
........ that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
.......... For God hath concluded them all in unbelief,
............ that He might have mercy upon all.
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God!
how unsearchable are His judgments, and His ways past finding out!'
(Romans 11:25-33)
Praise His Holy Name!
In Christ Jesus
Chris
@Stan B
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God knows all things, and His will, will assuredly be done in regard to all these things.
'For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
.. lest ye should be wise in your own conceits;
.... that blindness in part is happened to Israel,
...... until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written,
.. There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer,
.... and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
...... For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes:
.. but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
.. For as ye in times past have not believed God,
.... yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
...... Even so have these also now not believed,
........ that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
.......... For God hath concluded them all in unbelief,
............ that He might have mercy upon all.
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God!
how unsearchable are His judgments, and His ways past finding out!'
(Romans 11:25-33)
Praise His Holy Name!
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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Hello @Jenniferdiana3637,
Please do not use language like this when talking to a fellow member, or to any other human being for that matter. Not when you bare the name of Christ, for it is the glory of His Name that we are to uphold. We are not our own, for we were bought with great price.
Thank you
In Christ Jesus,
Chris
Agreed! That is why I have not said anything other than what God Himself reveals in His word. I have NEVER disputed that. Just showing the two sides of the coin, that I did not create.
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you not gonna answer me, mjr?
ha good to see you havent changed either buddy
the answer a bit uncomfy for you, is it?
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dunno about the vids, but some pertinent points there imo, ty
tragically completely from satan's dialectic, but whatevs
"i answered and gave clarity as to what God means" lol, priceless
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dunno about proof, but
John 11:49 Lexicon: But one of them, Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, said to them, "You know nothing at all,
John 11:50 Lexicon: nor do you take into account that it is expedient for you that one man die for the people, and that the whole nation not perish."
where the first one is necessary imo to understand Caiaphas' frame of mind, or Esauization, which is made crystal-clear in the second one, calling for blood? So proof i dont know, and genealogy i dont know, but spiritually pretty obv i guess yeh? Give me some of that red stuff, or i will die
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What exactly are you so angry about? If you do not like opposing views then do not enter into debate. This is a debate forum. You cuss at people and get very irate for what? No one is angry with you. If you disagree then give your argument against supported by some proof. But hostility is not necessary. Peace in Christ.
Do you understand who it is that is this people ? or do you just blindly take it for granted like so many fools that I have came across, for one would not know a Jew from a bottle cap in fact one could say.
I could count the people who have a handle on the subject of the Jews as being maybe something like 1% of the Nations people and the rest are just not worth talking to, because it's just like talking to a 5yo brat kid. they have it all wrong if anything, because if they have any knowledge it's only all indoctrination and nothing to do with being educated on the subject that they are worthy of.
Anyone who claims that the State that have been named Israel, is truly Israel such is of Satan !
Even the devout best educated Jews will point that out to you that it is not Israel, but they hope that it will become Israel and that is because they reject Jesus Christ ! but because they are all only a worldly people that are only relying on their own works doctrines, it is this as to why they don't have the Holy Spirit with them, so they are totally lost and when they come to understand the Holy Spirit, only then they will then have God back in their lives.
The Jews have been lost to God for 2000 years. anyone who does not understand that fact is a fool or of Satan in fact. and many Jews that have come to Christ Jesus up to now will inform you of this fact.
Or has also been said, "The squeeky wheel gets the oil". This applies in many places besides in how people think about Israel.
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