How Big Will The New Jerusalem Be? (Pick only one answer)

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jshiii

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A. 1200 inches wide, 1200 inches high, 1200 inches length
B.5 mill ft wide, 5 mill ft high, 5 mill ft length
C.2220 km wide, 2220 km high, 2220 km length
D 10,000 stadion wide, 10,000 stadion high, 10,000 stadion length

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A. 1200 inches wide, 1200 inches high, 1200 inches length
B.5 mill ft wide, 5 mill ft high, 5 mill ft length
C.2220 km wide, 2220 km high, 2220 km length
D 10,000 stadion wide, 10,000 stadion high, 10,000 stadion length

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why is Ephesians 3:17-19 not an option? “That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, [18] May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; [19] And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.”
 

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Do you seriously believe we are going to be confined to living within a constructed stone structure?

why is Ephesians 3:17-19 not an option? “That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, [18] May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; [19] And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.”


Amen...Well said both.

That is like saying " How big is the Universe " or " How big is God".

I fell in love with C.S. Lewis's 'picture' in The Last Battle.

There was the old barn....( in this world ) but when they went through the door ....there was God's whole Country stretching out ahead of them.

Any New Jerusalem is begging on the inside that any picture given in Revelation...which is just a 'picture' of ...not what is!!

Our tiny brains could never comprehend ....

God has a kingdom within a kingdom , within a Kingdom ...to infinity ...

The kingdom of heaven is within.... inside is bigger the outside ...this is just "the old barn".
 

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Do you seriously believe we are going to be confined to living within a constructed stone structure?
Do you seriously believe that you actually believe God and Christ?

1. First of all it is NOT a stone structure. The New Jerusalem is built out of heavenly gold and heavenly precious stones. BELIEVE IT!

2. Secondly, it is God who tells us that is is a huge CUBIC CITY which is 1500 miles x 1500 miles x 1500 miles. BELIEVE IT!

3. Thirdly, God tells us that it will be a heavenly body giving light to the earth, and the light will be the light of God Himself. BELIEVE IT!

It is truly amazing that when Christians are confronted with Bible truths, they suddenly become skeptical.
 

jshiii

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Do you seriously believe we are going to be confined to living within a constructed stone structure?

I don't think you get it Willie? We will not be confined. We will come and go, from the new Jerusalem, as we please. We will have a whole new Earth to explore and be in need of nothing. ;)

There will be no need for a SUN. God's GLORY will be radiant and bright, more than enough LIGHT for eternity.
 
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I don't think you get it Willie? We will not be confined. We will come and go, from the new Jerusalem, as we please. We will have a whole new Earth to explore and be in need of nothing. ;)

There will be no need for a SUN. God's GLORY will be radiant and bright, more than enough LIGHT for eternity.

Dream on my friend...dream on...
 

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I don't think you get it Willie? We will not be confined. We will come and go, from the new Jerusalem, as we please. We will have a whole new Earth to explore and be in need of nothing. ;)

There will be no need for a SUN. God's GLORY will be radiant and bright, more than enough LIGHT for eternity.
So since the earth is a sphere, how does His light from Israel shine to the opposite side of the globe?
 

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The New Jerusalem is built out of heavenly gold and heavenly precious stones. BELIEVE IT!


Thirdly, God tells us that it will be a heavenly body giving light to the earth, and the light will be the light of God Himself. BELIEVE IT!

Says a lot @Enoch111 especially “it will be a heavenly body giving light to the earth, and the light will be the light of God Himself.” Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
 

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Says a lot @Enoch111 especially “it will be a heavenly body giving light to the earth, and the light will be the light of God Himself.” Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
Matthew 5:14 KJV
[14] Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

This is interesting here Jesus says we light the world?
Tecarta Bible
 
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So since the earth is a sphere, how does His light from Israel shine to the opposite side of the globe?
God is the source of the Light of the city, and he's everywhere. Revelation 21:23 "And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof". so that takes care of the sphere problem. but as for the dimension of the NEW City, just read Revelation chapter 21 starting at verse

here's a video that's a little comical, but the mathematics on the city dimension is the meat for digestion.


PICJAG.
 
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So since the earth is a sphere, how does His light from Israel shine to the opposite side of the globe?

Jesus after his death came back to visit the disciples in his glorified body. He was able to walk through doors/walls. What makes you so sure his Father's Glorified Light cannot penetrate all things created? ;)

The Lord Jesus Christ ONLY, is Worthy of all our Praise and Worship!
Eternity is a Very long Time!
Satan Loves Distractions and Wants Christians To Just Die!!
 

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God is the source of the Light of the city, and he's everywhere. Revelation 21:23 "And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof". so that takes care of the sphere problem. but as for the dimension of the NEW City, just read Revelation chapter 21 starting at verse

here's a video that's a little comical, but the mathematics on the city dimension is the meat for digestion.


PICJAG.

Revelation 14:19-20 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. [20] And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
...and the angel thrust in his sickle INTO THE EARTH...and gathered the vine of the earth...that is a big sickle thrust into the earth, and one big vine.
has “by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs” been measured also? Is it miles? Where and when is this “great winepress” coming? is there a video on what the great winepress is going to look like?

Revelation 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
 

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GINOLJC, TO ALL.
Revelation 14:19-20 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. [20] And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
...and the angel thrust in his sickle INTO THE EARTH...and gathered the vine of the earth...that is a big sickle thrust into the earth, and one big vine.
has “by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs” been measured also? Is it miles? Where and when is this “great winepress” coming? is there a video on what the great winepress is going to look like?
Great question, Now don't hold me to this, but this is not to be understood literally, but as expressing a prodigious effusion of blood. meaning a hyperbolical expression. simply as I could put it, a world wide destruction. but don't hold me to this, ok.

PICJAG.
 

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The New Jerusalem is built out of heavenly gold and heavenly precious stones. BELIEVE IT!
um, prolly not wadr
It is truly amazing that when Christians are confronted with Bible truths, they suddenly become skeptical.
if that is the case then i have some other Scripture that i doubt you will be taking so literally?
 
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...That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world..
Your habit of taking Scriptures out of context does little for your credibility, but adds a lot to spiritual confusion. In your quotation Peter is speaking of believers on earth during the Church Age. The topic is the New Jerusalem for the New Heavens and the New Earth.
 
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It is amazing how otherwise seemingly intelligent men think Revelation 21:2 was speaking about a town.
A city is not a town and a heavenly city designed and constructed by God is not like any city on earth. But if God calls it a city, then you should either believe it, or frankly tell us that you really do not believe God.

By faith he [Abraham] sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles [tents] with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

We are told in Revelation that the heavenly city New Jerusalem has twelve foundations. Abraham received a vision of that city and focused on that city as his eternal home. Therefore he was content to live in tents in Canaan. Which also means that the New Jerusalem had already been constructed when Abraham was on earth (c 2000 BC). Perhaps it was built when Paradise was removed from earth to Heaven (c 4000 BC).
 
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This is from something I have often suggested here:

A more significant reason for the need to interpret lies in the nature of Scripture itself. Historically the church has understood the nature of Scripture much the same as it has understood the person of Christ — the Bible is at the same time both human and divine. As Professor George Ladd once put it: “The Bible is the Word of God given in the words of [people] in history.” It is this dual nature of the Bible that demands of us the task of interpretation.

Because the Bible is God’s Word, it has eternal relevance; it speaks to all humankind, in every age and in every culture. Because it is God’s Word, we must listen — and obey. But because God chose to speak his Word through human words in history, every book in the Bible also has historical particularity; each document is conditioned by the language, time, and culture in which it was originally written (and in some cases also by the oral history it had before it was written down). Interpretation of the Bible is demanded by the “tension” that exists between its eternal relevance and its historical particularity.

There are some, of course, who believe that the Bible is merely a human book, and that it contains only words of people in history. For these people the task of interpreting is limited to historical inquiry. Their interest, as with Cicero or Milton, is with the religious ideas of the Jews, Jesus, or the early church. The task for them, therefore, is purely a historical one. What did these words mean to the people who wrote them? What did they think about God? How did they understand themselves?

On the other hand, there are those who think of the Bible only in terms of its eternal relevance. Because it is God’s Word, they tend to think of it only as a collection of propositions to be believed and imperatives to be obeyed — although invariably, there is a great deal of picking and choosing among the propositions and imperatives. There are, for example, Christians who, on the basis of Deuteronomy 22:5 (“A woman must not wear men’s clothing,” NIV), argue literally that a woman should not wear slacks or shorts. But the same people seldom take literally the other imperatives in that list, which include building a parapet around the roof of one’s house (v. 8), not planting two kinds of seeds in a vineyard (v. 9), and making tassels on the four corners of one’s cloak (v. 12).

The Bible, however, is not a series of propositions and imperatives; it is not simply a collection of “Sayings from Chairman God,” as though he looked down at us from heaven and said: “Hey, you down there, learn these truths. Number 1, There is no God but One, and I am he. Number 2, I am the Creator of all things, including humankind” — and so on, all the way through proposition number 7,777 and imperative number 777.

These propositions, of course, are true; and they are found in the Bible (though not quite in that form). Indeed, such a book might have made many things easier for us. But, fortunately, that is not how God chose to speak to us. Rather, he chose to speak his eternal truths within the particular circumstances and events of human history. This also is what gives us hope. Precisely because God chose to speak in the context of real human history, we may take courage that these same words will speak again and again in our own “real” history, as they have throughout the history of the church.

The fact that the Bible has a human side is our encouragement; it is also our challenge, and is the reason that we need to interpret. Two things should be noted in this regard:

1. In speaking through real persons, in a variety of circumstances, over a 1500-year period, God’s Word was expressed in the vocabulary and thought patterns of those persons and conditioned by the culture of those times and circumstances. That is to say, God’s Word to us was first of all, his Word to them. If they were going to hear it, it could only have come through events and in language they could have understood. Our problem is that we are so far removed from them in time, and sometimes in thought. This is the major reason one needs to learn to interpret the Bible. If God’s Word about women wearing men’s clothing or people having parapets around houses is to speak to us, we first need to know what it said to its original hearers — and why.

Thus, the task of interpreting involves the student/reader at two levels. First, one has to hear the Word they heard; he or she must try to understand what was said to them back then and there. Second, one must learn to hear that same Word in the here and now. We will say more about these two tasks below.

2. One of the most important aspects of the human side of the Bible is that to communicate his Word to all human conditions, God chose to use almost every available kind of communication: narrative history, genealogies, chronicles, laws of all kinds, poetry of all kinds, proverbs, prophetic oracles, riddles, drama, biographical sketches, parables, letters, sermons, and apocalypses.

To interpret properly the “then and there” of the biblical texts, one must not only know some general rules that apply to all the words of the Bible, but one needs to learn the special rules that apply to each of these literary forms (genres). The way God communicates his Word to us in the “here and now” will often differ from one form to another. For example, we need to know how a psalm, a form that was often addressed to God, functions as God’s Word to us, and how psalms differ from the “laws,” which were often addressed to people in cultural situations no longer in existence. How do such “laws” speak to us, and how do they differ from the moral “laws,” which are always valid in all circumstances? Such are the questions the dual nature of the Bible forces upon us.
 
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Revelation 14:19-20 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. [20] And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
...and the angel thrust in his sickle INTO THE EARTH...and gathered the vine of the earth...that is a big sickle thrust into the earth, and one big vine.
has “by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs” been measured also? Is it miles? Where and when is this “great winepress” coming? is there a video on what the great winepress is going to look like?

Zechariah 14
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

The armies of antichrist chase the Israelites through this valley . . . just like the Egyptians chased them through the sea . . . with similar result . . . the winepress of God's wrath.

What will it look like? A mountain closing over the armies, their blood running out like a river as they are smashed like ripe grapes.

Much love!
 
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