The thief on the cross, Paradise and The Kingdom of My Father

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The thief on the cross, Paradise and The Kingdom of My Father... This is ALL about where and when and how and what is "The Kingdom".

"The Kingdom" was the BATTLEFIELD of God versus Satan, on earth, "The Mount of Olives"; in time of year, "the Passover of Yahweh"; in event of the BATTLE between Christ withstanding Satan in Eden, repossessing "the Garden of the Good Pleasure of God"; "The Kingdom" is 'the cross', and "Jesus the Man of Nazareth" Christ Crucified its Hero LORD Triumphant.

The thief on the cross That Day ("BONE-DAY") "TODAY at hearing His Voice" with broken heart, there, IN JESUS THE SON OF MAN, went straight into Hell and down among all in hell marshalled against GOD THE SON OF GOD forlorn on the Mount and forsaken by all the living and the dead. Just Jesus and the Father and the Eternal Spirit between them. Behold, "The Kingdom of His Dear Son"!
 
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The thief on the cross, Paradise and The Kingdom of My Father... This is ALL about where and when and how and what is "The Kingdom".

"The Kingdom" was the BATTLEFIELD of God versus Satan, on earth, "The Mount of Olives"; in time of year, "the Passover of Yahweh"; in event of the BATTLE between Christ withstanding Satan in Eden, repossessing "the Garden of the Good Pleasure of God"; "The Kingdom" is 'the cross', and "Jesus the Man of Nazareth" Christ Crucified its Hero LORD Triumphant.

The thief on the cross That Day ("BONE-DAY") "TODAY at hearing His Voice" with broken heart, there, IN JESUS THE SON OF MAN, went straight into Hell and down among all in hell marshalled against GOD THE SON OF GOD forlorn on the Mount and forsaken by all the living and the dead. Just Jesus and the Father and the Eternal Spirit between them. Behold, "The Kingdom of His Dear Son"!



The Kingdom is where? Jesus says:

Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Hence when Paul describes himself as a ambassadors (eph:6:20) being of God’s Kingdom with the message thereof in a foreign kingdom, the kingdom of death. The judgment in God’s Kingdom is Life, Life everlasting. The judgement of man’s kingdoms, is death.

The Kingdom of God is within those who are born again because one is born of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is the Presence of God (Jesus says God is a Spirit, therefore Holy) and God’s Presence is in Heaven. Jesus said to the effect more than once, that the Father was in Him and with Him, as well as He in, and with the Father, at the time He walked in the flesh.
 

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Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Correct, the Holy Spirit that dwells in us. and the Kingdon of Heaven is outside of us. for the model prayer, Matthew 6:10 "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven".

Addressing the OP only,
"The Kingdom" was the BATTLEFIELD of God versus Satan, on earth
don't take this the wrong way, but how is God in battle, or competition with Satan? please explain.

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Jesus entered into “the Kingdom of Glory to come”, right here, John 17:1!

Taking the position within the text as well as according to the logical and chronological sequence of events on that last night in the life of Jesus before He would be crucified, John 17 must be from Jesus’ prayer in Gethsemane.

WHERE, did Jesus conquer satan? IN PARADISE! IN GOD’S KINGDOM which satan invaded when he, conquered Adam! Christ wrung from the grip of the devil the keys of both death and life.

WHERE was the ZENITH of the victory through the Exodus? It was on the BOTTOM of the sea!

WHERE was the HEIGHT of Jesus anxiety “UNTO

DEATH” in that last night of The Passover of Yahweh? It was “under the foundations of the mountains of the seas”, “AS JONAS WAS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH” the creation and realm of the KINGDOM OF GOD!

That was the Kingdom Jesus taught his disciples to PRAY FOR: “Let Thy Kingdom COME” : The COMING Kingdom of heaven, fetched and “brought” IN CHRIST when “The God-of-Peace brought again _FROM THE DEAD_, OUR LORD JESUS … THROUGH THE BLOOD OF THE EVERLASTING COVENANT” OF PEACE!

Brother in Jesus Christ, REJOICE! For that is where the Kingdom of the Father of our Lord Jesus has been brought from; because THAT was WHERE and WHEN and HOW Jesus God’s Christ, OBTAINED LORDSHIP THROUGH VICTORY! God’s Kingdom, WON, CREATED, “WROUGHT”, “BROUGHT UP FROM THE DEPTHS” OF GOD’S OMNIPRESENCE. … This only, answers, for me, Jesus’ assurance to his disciples when He SWORE to them, saying, “Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall NOT TASTE DEATH, till they have seen The Kingdom of God COME WITH POWER!”

This only, answers, for me, Jesus’ assurance to the criminal on the cross RIGHT NEXT TO HIM, when He SWORE to him, and promised, “Verily I say unto thee, TODAY SHALT thou be, WITH ME, IN, Paradise” Kingdom of God regained, restored!

In Christ in his dying DEATH IN “THE KINGDOM OF DARKNESS”, “The Light shineth in darkness” and the Kingdom of God “wherein there shall be no night” “hath communion with Light”.

When the arch rebel was driven out of the borders of the heavens, and like lightning fell to earth, “all the People of the Land rejoiced, and the City was quiet, AFTER THAT THEY HAD SLAIN ATHALIAH WITH THE SWORD” : AFTER CHRIST HAD SLAIN THE DEVIL WITH THE SWORD OF HIS WORD.

Then the Kingdom of God encompassed all and Christ

became: “The ALL in all fulfilling FULLNESS of GOD”! NEVER forget, WHERE, and NEVER forget WHEN; it was in that night and in that day “TO BE SOLEMNLY OBSERVED” some two thousand years ago in a Land called Gethsemane, on Mount called Olives, on a hill called Golgotha, and since Paradise, EXPECTED, The Kingdom of God.

The disciples who at last -- AFTER Jesus HAD "restored the Kingdom" --, had SEEN : the fulfilment of Jesus' prophecy…. Read all four Gospels where and when Jesus IN DEED, ENTERED INTO : “THE KINGDOM OF MY FATHER". In every Gospel you will find the record of that EVENT, from these locations on : Mark 14:12 Matthew 26:17 Luke 22:7 John 13:1.


God bless you in your perusal of Jesus’ comings in and goings out— the Passover of Yahweh.
 
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King and Kingdom


Whoever said:

"God’s Kingdom is within you" also translates, "God’s Kingdom is among you”, being Jesus referring to Himself.

King and Kingdom

King

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King of Israel

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King of Jews

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Kingdom

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Kingdom of My Father

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Kingdom of God

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Kingdom of Heaven

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1 Entry into Jerusalem (x 4)

2 Last Supper (x 1)

3 Trial (x 23)

4 Crucifixion (x 9)

John 1:50 “Nathanial said to Him: Rabbi, You are the Son of God—You, are the King of Israel.” (verse 52: Genesis 28:12)

John 6:15. Jesus' Kingdom is “the Kingdom of my Father” the “Kingdom of Righteousness” and of “Light”; and “not, of this world.”

John 18:36

Ἡ βασιλεία ἡ ἐμὴ οὐκ ἔστιν ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου τούτου·

My kingdom is not of this world:

“the King of the Jews who is born” Matthew 2:1

“Gospel of Kingdom” only Matthew; 2 times before and 1 time after Entry

“children of Kingdom” only Matthew; parable before Entry

“When the Son comes in his Glory … prepare the Kingdom”

“Kingdom of heavens”-- Only Matthew 29 times, one after, and all other incidences after Entry.

Matthew 23:13 “close the Kingdom of heavens before the people”

Kingdom of My Father” Matthew 26:9 once = Luke 22:29

“Kingdom of God” Matthew x 6; Mark x 14; Luke x 33; John x 3.

My Kingdom” Luke 22:30 John 18:36.

“Your koninkryk” Luke 23:42 (Matthew 20:21)

Matthew 2:1 “the King of the Jews who is born”

Conclusion:

Any reference to the Kingdom in reality, happens in the Last Week.

All mention of the King of the Kingdom in the Last Week, as follows,

1 Entry (x 4)

2 Last Supper (x 1)

3 Trial (x 23)

4 Crucifixion (x 9)

Question and inference:

Where and when does “the Son come in his Kingdom”?

In his Last Passover of Yahweh SUFFERING AND TRIUMPH! Ever since his Resurrection from the dead the KING the RISEN CHRIST rules on his Eternal Throne in his Heavenly Kingdom "on earth as it is heaven", and the Law of Jesus' Kingdom, is, "Thy will be done; Thy Kingdom come".

Therefore:

"The First Resurrection This The Thousand Years" (Amillennialism), for the Christian is the only future expectancy relevant to the soon Return of Jesus Christ.
 

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GINOLJC, TO ALL.
The thief on the cross, Paradise and The Kingdom of My Father... This is ALL about where and when and how and what is "The Kingdom".
Luke 23:39 "And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.

Luke 23:40 "But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

Luke 23:41 "And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

Luke 23:42 "And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

Luke 23:43 "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

so the question arises, did the Thief that was on the cross with our Lord did he enter into the Kingdom that day? No.but is in rememberance, when we all rise together.
the reason why we ask this is because of what was said here below
Where and when does “the Son come in his Kingdom”?

In his Last Passover of Yahweh SUFFERING AND TRIUMPH! Ever since his Resurrection from the dead the KING the RISEN CHRIST rules on his Eternal Throne in his Heavenly Kingdom "on earth as it is heaven", and the Law of Jesus' Kingdom, is, "Thy will be done; Thy Kingdom come".

Therefore:

"The First Resurrection This The Thousand Years" (Amillennialism), for the Christian is the only future expectancy relevant to the soon Return of Jesus Christ.
now lets explain this. Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom".

NOW this is what is called audience relevance, meaning, his Kingdom is coming while some of the people "standing" right there listening to him will come. and if this is the First resurrection then we all have missed it. for you have two choices.

A. if he has not yet returned then there are some people still walking around that is close to 2,000 years old, and that's anti bible.

B. if he has return, while some standing there listening to him, then we're doomed. here's why. Revelation 20:6 "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Now if we, who have not made the first resurrection, #1. we cannot be priests of God and christ. and we are facing a second DEATH.
Now, did Jesus come into his KINGDOM yet? yes, WHEN? John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you". BINGO, now hold that thought, and we will see when he "CAME".

then our Lord said this, John 14:19 "Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

John 14:20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. (STOP right there. the Lord Jesus will "MANIFEST" himself to them? hold that thought. lets continue,

John 14:22 "Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? (excellent question by Judas, lets see what the Lord say).

John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".
ABODE: is the GREEK WORD, G3438 μονή mone (mo-nee') adj.
a staying, i.e. residence (the act or the place).
[from G3306]
KJV: abode, mansion

look at definition #1. a staying or resident, better know as a "DWELLING", or a "habitation". so the way the Lord Jesus will "MANIFEST" himself to them was by "DWELLING" in them or taking up resident in them. when did that happen? answer on the day of pentecost. and it is the "MANIFESTATION" of the Spirit that came on Pentecost. he the Lord Jesus indwelled them.

if someone say that the "First Resurrection" happen when the Lord Jesus came on Pentecost then we all has MISSED this First resurrection. (see the ERROR now). for the only "MANIFESTATION" happen on Pentecost was the Holy Spirit whom JESUS is, and he Gave Spiritual Gifts to men. lets see this "MANIFESTATION" of the spiritual Gifts.

1 Corinthians 12:7 "But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal".

there's that "Manifestation" Judas asked about. and all the spiritual gifts are listed in 1 Corinthians 12:8 - 11.

so the Kingdom came in power, (Spirit), to revive the Church, other words EMPOWER the Church to carry out his commands. not to raise the DEAD CHRISTIAN in the grave, no, for he will do that at his second "APPEARING". so a bodily resurrection is due then, correct. the question is when? answer, Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation". the first time he appeared was as a babe/the Lamb of God. but unpon his return the second time in flesh, as a Man/the LAMB, not the Lamb of God, but the LAMB.

this is why we teach a "TWO FOLD" return, one in the Church age, (Spirit, From those who was standing there and did not taste death, to revive, and Empower her, (the church) until now, this present time, adding to here everyday), and the return we yet expect, that will raise what's in the ground, those "BONES", (see Ezekiel 37) restore all who are in him, dead or alive, which is the FIRST RESURRECTION). supportive scripture, Romans 14:9 "For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living".

Christ "Rose", but also "revived". this is where a many of Christian faile at in when understanding the "RESURRECTION"
Revived means restore to life or consciousness, (Spirit). and this is done by the Spirit better know as "BORN AGAIN".

many Amillennialism ignorantly believe what is clearly stated by the bible as the "NEW BIRTH", they believe is the First Resurrection. that's their mistake. John 3:3 "Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:6 "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

REGENERATION here in the church age is not a RESURRECTION of spirit nor body, but reformed or reborn, especially in a spiritual or moral sense. and reformed means having been changed in such a way as to be improved. a change is called repentance, and an IMPROVEMENT in Christ is called ... "GROWTH". BINGO, we must now GROW in christ as NEW BORN BABES desiring the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby, (1 Peter 2:2)

so this church age is for us to "GROW" in him. not a resurrection, but a "NEW BIRTH" in him.

a re-reading of this post is needed for clarity.

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so the question arises, did the Thief that was on the cross with our Lord did he enter into the Kingdom that day? No.but is in rememberance, when we all rise together.
"Your Kingdom" the Kingdom of the Son as of the Father, That Day, "TODAY you (thief) shall WITH ME (Jesus Crucified)", that is, the Death-Suffering "King-of-the-Jews", "BE IN Paradise" THE PLACE AND TIME AND WAY AND CIRCUMSTANCE OF CHRIST'S PRESENT ON THAT DAY. "In Paradise" was on the Battlefield of the Great Controversy which forever settled the fate of every man ever born of Eve the mother of all. Whether <remembered> or not; and 2000 years ago--neither in between nor <when we all rise together>.

The new birth is the work of the Holy Spirit with the individual believer. A Church isn't 'reborn'; it may experience 'revival' of any kind of things, good and bad, but as an entity, as a whole, cannot be reborn, thank God.
 
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"Your Kingdom" the Kingdom of the Son as of the Father, That Day, "TODAY you (thief) shall WITH ME (Jesus Crucified)", that is, the Death-Suffering "King-of-the-Jews", "BE IN Paradise" THE PLACE AND TIME AND WAY AND CIRCUMSTANCE OF CHRIST'S PRESENT ON THAT DAY. "In Paradise" was on the Battlefield of the Great Controversy which forever settled the fate of every man ever born of Eve the mother of all. Whether <remembered> or not; and 2000 years ago--neither in between nor <when we all rise together>.

The new birth is the work of the Holy Spirit with the individual believer. A Church isn't 'reborn'; it may experience 'revival' of any kind of things, good and bad, but as an entity, as a whole, cannot be reborn, thank God.
GINOLJC, to All.
First, I have no problem with the work of the Lord Jesus in Spirit in the NEW BIRTH. second, the Lord Jesus himself did not go to Paradise that day. for he went to the spirits in prison and preached to them for at least for two days, supportive scripture. 1 Peter 3:19 "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1 Peter 3:20 "Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water".

so the Lord Jesus himself that day didn't go to paradise. neither did the thief go to paradise that day, but this is what the thief said, and the Lord Jesus said. Luke 23:42 & 43 "And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43 "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise". he said A. "Shalt" future tense. B. "WITH" together, but Jesus as said didn't go to paradise that day so he couldn't be "with" him in paradise that day. so how was the thief "with" the Lord Jesus that DAY? as he said, in "memory". "And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom". that's how he was "with" him that "day" when he, the Lord Jesus came into his Kingdom. for the Kingdom was at hand, coming.

I holped that helped.

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43 "And unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise". he said A. "Shalt" future tense. B. "WITH" together, but Jesus as said didn't go to paradise that day so he couldn't be "with" him in paradise that day.

101G said, <<Jesus said .. To day shalt thou be with me in paradise">>.

101G says, <<but Jesus as said didn't go to paradise that day>>.

One of 101G and Jesus has to be lying the one in the other's face.
 

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he went to the spirits in prison and preached to them for at least for two days, supportive scripture. 1 Peter 3:19 "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1 Peter 3:20 "Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water".
so the Lord Jesus himself that day didn't go to paradise.

So, Jesus, according to you, did not die?
When, from time of day to time of day, did Jesus then, according to you, go <<to the spirits in prison>>?
And so, according to you, God did not speak to the people in the prison of their sins in the days of Noah, preaching to them through him, God just waited? The waiting longsuffering of God meant nothing?

How ridiculous can you get, in fact, Christ-insulting?
 

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So, Jesus, according to you, did not die?
My, MY, MY, lets take this one step at a time. #1.where did I say that the Lord Jesus didn't die? you say. I said that day he went to the spirits in prison, (THE DEAD). understand now? and gave scripture to back that up, 1 Peter 3:19. if one have the understanding of the bible events around of his crucifixion one would have known that he went, (not in body) to the spirits in prison, when christ died he was 3 days and three nights in the grave, his body was, but in spirit went to the spirit in prison. that's basic bible, you should have known this. oh well...
When, from time of day to time of day, did Jesus then, according to you, go <<to the spirits in prison>>?
not according to me but the bible, Matthew 12:40 "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth". I'm sure he was not there in flesh and blood. 1 Corinthians 15:4 "And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures".
so I hope that answered your question.
1 Corinthians 15:4 "And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
And so, according to you, God did not speak to the people in the prison of their sins in the days of Noah, preaching to them through him, God just waited? The waiting longsuffering of God meant nothing?
I said? why try to put words in my mouth, did you not read? 1 Peter 3:19 "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1 Peter 3:20 "Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
did not God through Noah preached to them? NO IT MENT THAT GOD IS A GOD OF THE LIVING AS WELL AS THE DEAD. supportive scripture, Romans 14:9 "For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living".
How ridiculous can you get, in fact, Christ-insulting?
this I will not reply to, so thanks for your response, and I hoped it helped.

PICJAG.
 

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GerhardEbersoehn said:
So, Jesus, according to you, did not die?

My, MY, MY, lets take this one step at a time. #1.where did I say that the Lord Jesus didn't die? you say. I said that day he went to the spirits in prison, (THE DEAD). understand now? and gave scripture to back that up, 1 Peter 3:19. if one have the understanding of the bible events around of his crucifixion one would have known that he went, (not in body) to the spirits in prison, when christ died he was 3 days and three nights in the grave, his body was, but in spirit went to the spirit in prison. that's basic bible, you should have known this. oh well...

GerhardEbersoehn said:
When, from time of day to time of day, did Jesus then, according to you, go <<to the spirits in prison>>?

not according to me but the bible, Matthew 12:40 "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth". I'm sure he was not there in flesh and blood. 1 Corinthians 15:4 "And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures".
so I hope that answered your question.
1 Corinthians 15:4 "And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

I said? why try to put words in my mouth, did you not read? 1 Peter 3:19 "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1 Peter 3:20 "Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
did not God through Noah preached to them? NO IT MENT THAT GOD IS A GOD OF THE LIVING AS WELL AS THE DEAD. supportive scripture, Romans 14:9 "For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living".

this I will not reply to, so thanks for your response, and I hoped it helped.

PICJAG.

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let's quote the GREATEST teacher EVER, OT first, Isaiah 29:13 "Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men".

NT, Mark 7:6 "He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men".

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Keep it simple. When Jesus was raised Peter said He went and preached to the spirits in prison, which was a fulfillment of the Isaiah 42:7 prophecy of loosing the prisoners in the prison house in darkness (a reference to Hades, the abode of the dead). it was because The Gospel was not preached to those dead back in that time of Noah (and before). Christ Jesus had not come to die on the cross yet. At His resurrection The Gospel was then preached to the dead also, and not just the living.

1 Peter 4:5-6
5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
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GINOLJC, TO ALL.

Luke 23:39 "And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.

Luke 23:40 "But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

Luke 23:41 "And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

Luke 23:42 "And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

Luke 23:43 "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

so the question arises, did the Thief that was on the cross with our Lord did he enter into the Kingdom that day? No.but is in rememberance, when we all rise together.
the reason why we ask this is because of what was said here below

now lets explain this. Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom".

NOW this is what is called audience relevance, meaning, his Kingdom is coming while some of the people "standing" right there listening to him will come. and if this is the First resurrection then we all have missed it. for you have two choices.

A. if he has not yet returned then there are some people still walking around that is close to 2,000 years old, and that's anti bible.

B. if he has return, while some standing there listening to him, then we're doomed. here's why. Revelation 20:6 "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Now if we, who have not made the first resurrection, #1. we cannot be priests of God and christ. and we are facing a second DEATH.
Now, did Jesus come into his KINGDOM yet? yes, WHEN? John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you". BINGO, now hold that thought, and we will see when he "CAME".

then our Lord said this, John 14:19 "Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

John 14:20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. (STOP right there. the Lord Jesus will "MANIFEST" himself to them? hold that thought. lets continue,

John 14:22 "Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? (excellent question by Judas, lets see what the Lord say).

John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".
ABODE: is the GREEK WORD, G3438 μονή mone (mo-nee') adj.
a staying, i.e. residence (the act or the place).
[from G3306]
KJV: abode, mansion

look at definition #1. a staying or resident, better know as a "DWELLING", or a "habitation". so the way the Lord Jesus will "MANIFEST" himself to them was by "DWELLING" in them or taking up resident in them. when did that happen? answer on the day of pentecost. and it is the "MANIFESTATION" of the Spirit that came on Pentecost. he the Lord Jesus indwelled them.

if someone say that the "First Resurrection" happen when the Lord Jesus came on Pentecost then we all has MISSED this First resurrection. (see the ERROR now). for the only "MANIFESTATION" happen on Pentecost was the Holy Spirit whom JESUS is, and he Gave Spiritual Gifts to men. lets see this "MANIFESTATION" of the spiritual Gifts.

1 Corinthians 12:7 "But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal".

there's that "Manifestation" Judas asked about. and all the spiritual gifts are listed in 1 Corinthians 12:8 - 11.

so the Kingdom came in power, (Spirit), to revive the Church, other words EMPOWER the Church to carry out his commands. not to raise the DEAD CHRISTIAN in the grave, no, for he will do that at his second "APPEARING". so a bodily resurrection is due then, correct. the question is when? answer, Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation". the first time he appeared was as a babe/the Lamb of God. but unpon his return the second time in flesh, as a Man/the LAMB, not the Lamb of God, but the LAMB.

this is why we teach a "TWO FOLD" return, one in the Church age, (Spirit, From those who was standing there and did not taste death, to revive, and Empower her, (the church) until now, this present time, adding to here everyday), and the return we yet expect, that will raise what's in the ground, those "BONES", (see Ezekiel 37) restore all who are in him, dead or alive, which is the FIRST RESURRECTION). supportive scripture, Romans 14:9 "For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living".

Christ "Rose", but also "revived". this is where a many of Christian faile at in when understanding the "RESURRECTION"
Revived means restore to life or consciousness, (Spirit). and this is done by the Spirit better know as "BORN AGAIN".

many Amillennialism ignorantly believe what is clearly stated by the bible as the "NEW BIRTH", they believe is the First Resurrection. that's their mistake. John 3:3 "Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:6 "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

REGENERATION here in the church age is not a RESURRECTION of spirit nor body, but reformed or reborn, especially in a spiritual or moral sense. and reformed means having been changed in such a way as to be improved. a change is called repentance, and an IMPROVEMENT in Christ is called ... "GROWTH". BINGO, we must now GROW in christ as NEW BORN BABES desiring the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby, (1 Peter 2:2)

so this church age is for us to "GROW" in him. not a resurrection, but a "NEW BIRTH" in him.

a re-reading of this post is needed for clarity.

PICJAG.

For me, it would be several re-readings, lol...good stuff.
 

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let's quote the GREATEST teacher EVER, OT first, Isaiah 29:13 "Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men".

NT, Mark 7:6 "He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mark 7:7 "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men".

PICJAG.

When hit speechless in the crop they ALWAYS resort to JUDGEMENTALISM. In other words, you got proven heretical, and have NO answer.
 
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