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Consider also at the end, even though all of the disciples assured him they would never deny him, all of them did in some measure.
The scriptures are seemingly not always put down in chronological order. When they are, the context may be important, but when they are not...? How do we know for sure which is which? Should it be according to what some well studied man has determined? Perhaps, but cannot even a good Bible student, by some an accepted authority, go astray by mixing what he heard from God with what he received from elsewhere?
"Peter said unto him, Though I should die with thee, yet will I not deny thee. Likewise also said all the disciples." Matt 26:35
"But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled." Matt 26:56
While Jesus stood with them they often [usually?] willing to stand by him, but when he allowed the soldiers led by Judas to take him, they lost whatever courage they had.
Things would change when they were converted...! The words Jesus spoke here to Peter eventually would probably apply also to the others as well:
"And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren." Luke 22:31-32
And is that really different? When we have both the power and the will of God! Misapplied power will not do works greater than his, so the Will is also needed. With Him in us any misstep taken by us would be when we quench the Holy Spirit in favor of our own way/will...
This may answer no questions for you, but here is something from another book I think we all need to read:
There are two basic kinds of questions one should ask of every biblical passage: those that relate to context and those that relate to content. The questions of context are also of two kinds: historical and literary. Let us briefly note each of these.
The Historical Context
The historical context, which will differ from book to book, has to do with several things: the time and culture of the author and his readers, that is, the geographical, topographical, and political factors that are relevant to the author’s setting; and the occasion of the book, letter, psalm, prophetic oracle, or other genre. All such matters are especially important for understanding.
It simply makes a difference in understanding to know the personal background of Amos, Hosea, or Isaiah, or that Haggai prophesied after the exile, or to know the messianic expectations of Israel when John the Baptist and Jesus appeared on the scene, or to understand the differences between the cities of Corinth and Philippi and how these affected the churches in each. One’s reading of Jesus’ parables is greatly enhanced by knowing something about the customs of Jesus’ day. Surely it makes a difference in understanding to know that the “penny” (KJV), or denarius, offered to the workers in Matthew 20:1–16 was the equivalent of a full day’s wage. Even matters of topography are important. One who was raised in the American West — or East for that matter — must be careful not to think of “the mountains that surround Jerusalem” (Ps. 125:2) in terms of his or her own experience of mountains!
To answer most of these kinds of questions, one will need some outside help. A good Bible dictionary, such as the four-volume International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (ed. G. W. Bromiley, Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1988) or the five-volume Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible (ed. Merrill C. Tenney, Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1975) or the one-volume New Bible Dictionary (ed. J. D. Douglas, Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1962), will generally supply the need here. If one wishes to pursue a matter further, the bibliographies at the end of each article will be a good place to start.
The more important question of historical context, however, has to do with the occasion and purpose of each biblical book and/or its various parts. Here one wants to have an idea of what was going on in Israel or the church that called forth such a document, or what the situation of the author was that caused him to write. Again, this will vary from book to book, and it is much less crucial for Proverbs, for example, than for 1 Corinthians.
The answer to this question is usually to be found — when it can be found — within the book itself. But you need to learn to read with your eyes open for such matters. If you want to corroborate your own findings on these questions, you might consult your Bible dictionary again, or the introduction to a good commentary on the book, or look at Eerdman’s Handbook to the Bible (ed. David Alexander and Pat Alexander, Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1973). But make your own observations first!
The Literary Context
This is what most people mean when they talk about reading something in its context. Indeed, this is the crucial task in exegesis, and fortunately it is something one can do well without necessarily having to consult the “experts.” Essentially, literary context means that words only have meaning in sentences, and for the most part, biblical sentences only have meaning in relation to preceding and succeeding sentences.
The most important contextual question you will ever ask, and it must be asked over and over of every sentence and every paragraph is, “What’s the point?” We must try to trace the author’s train of thought. What is the author saying and why does he or she say it right here? Having made that point, what is he or she saying next, and why?
This question will vary from genre to genre, but it is always the crucial question. The goal of exegesis, you remember, is to find out what the original author intended. To do this task well, it is imperative that one use a translation that recognizes poetry and paragraphs. One of the major causes of inadequate exegesis by readers of the King James Version, and to a lesser degree of the New American Standard, is that every verse has been printed as a paragraph. Such an arrangement tends to obscure the author’s own logic. Above all else, therefore, one must learn to recognize units of thought, whether they be paragraphs (for prose) or lines and sections (for poetry). And, with the aid of an adequate translation, this is something the reader can do.
The Questions of Content
The second major category of questions one asks of any text has to do with the author’s actual content. “Content” has to do with the meanings of words, the grammatical relationships in sentences, and the choice of the original text where the manuscripts have variant readings. It also includes a number of the items mentioned above under “historical context,” for example, the meaning of denarius, or a Sabbath day’s journey, or “high places,” etc.
For the most part, these are the questions of meaning that one ordinarily asks of the biblical text. When Paul says in 2 Corinthians 5:16, “Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him Thus, no longer” (NASB), one should want to know, Who is “according to the flesh,” Christ or the one knowing him? It makes a considerable difference in meaning to learn that “we” know Christ no longer “from a worldly point of view” is what Paul intends, not that we know Christ no longer “in His earthly life.”
To answer these kinds of questions one will ordinarily need to seek outside help. Again, the quality of one’s answers to such questions will usually depend on the quality of the sources one uses. This is the place where you will finally want to consult a good exegetical commentary. But please note that consulting a commentary, as essential as that will be at times, is the last thing one does.
Yes I believe it is.
It's like having a billion dollars in the bank, compared to having Bill Gate's card for the ATM machine, and his PIN number.
We are vessels.
Much love!
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Waiting on him
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Indeed, after they were converted we see God walking in them. Prior to that their indignant.
Which seems to be the spirit of this place at times.
Revelation 1:10 "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet".
John is in the Spirit as was the prophet Ezekiel, he was seeing a vision, here on earth, just as the prophet Daniel, here on earth, for John will see the same person that the prophet Daniel saw.. .
Revelation 1:11 "Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
I, is a single person designation, who here, is identified as the Lord JESUS who is the Holy God. For God is the First and the Last. Supportive scripture, Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God”. here God vets himself again as the only person known as God. In Isaiah 44:6 God said that he is the first “and” the Last. we will see what John meant in his gospel book of John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”. the question arise, “How can God be “WITH” God his ownself? We can answer this but we will let the bible do that for us. So the question, "is this two separate person?", The “First and the “Last”. we say no, and here’s the evidence.
Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he”. BINGO, "I AM" he. he as in Genesis 1:27 who made man male and female. "I AM" he who said, my people will know my NAME in that DAY.
The "I AM" is one person. But the verse said, “WITH”. the OT prophet Isaiah made it very clear by the Lord speaking himself, by the prophet, listen,
Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last. BINGO, also makes it very clear that the First is the Last, is the same person.
here in Isaiah 48:12, it is the “LORD” all caps who is Identified himself as “I AM” some say, Jehovah, or Yahweh, but John as well as Daniel describe the same person who is the Lord JESUS. But notice he said, “I AM” the First “I AM”…... “ALSO” … the Last. The LORD all caps described here by the prophet Isaiah is the Lord Jesus who is describe by Daniel and John who he saw on Patmos, listen.
Revelation 1:12 "And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Revelation 1:13 "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Revelation 1:14 "His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Revelation 1:15 "And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Lets see what Daniel saw. Note the same identification in description.
Daniel 10:1 "In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
Daniel 10:2 "In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
Daniel 10:3 "I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
Daniel 10:4 "And in the four and twentieth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, which is Hiddekel;
Daniel 10:5 "Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
Daniel 10:6 "His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
Daniel 10:7 "And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves.
Here we see a blow by blow of the same PERSON. Read both description again. Lets take also another look, this time of the Ancient of days
Daniel 7:9 "I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
Daniel 7:10 "A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
again a blow by blow perfect description of the same person whom John saw.
The same description for the Ancient of days, as with the Lord Jesus . now anyone can disagree with 101G fine, but you cannot disagree with the bible. So look at those scriptures and read for yourself. This is bible, not 101G.
If you read Daniel, there in those Scriptures, it’s just like reading John in Revelation chapter 1. the Same person.
so we clearly know now that the the Lord JESUS is what this Revelation is all about.
PICJAG.
John is in the Spirit as was the prophet Ezekiel, he was seeing a vision, here on earth, just as the prophet Daniel, here on earth, for John will see the same person that the prophet Daniel saw.. .
Revelation 1:11 "Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
I, is a single person designation, who here, is identified as the Lord JESUS who is the Holy God. For God is the First and the Last. Supportive scripture, Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God”. here God vets himself again as the only person known as God. In Isaiah 44:6 God said that he is the first “and” the Last. we will see what John meant in his gospel book of John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”. the question arise, “How can God be “WITH” God his ownself? We can answer this but we will let the bible do that for us. So the question, "is this two separate person?", The “First and the “Last”. we say no, and here’s the evidence.
Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he”. BINGO, "I AM" he. he as in Genesis 1:27 who made man male and female. "I AM" he who said, my people will know my NAME in that DAY.
The "I AM" is one person. But the verse said, “WITH”. the OT prophet Isaiah made it very clear by the Lord speaking himself, by the prophet, listen,
Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last. BINGO, also makes it very clear that the First is the Last, is the same person.
here in Isaiah 48:12, it is the “LORD” all caps who is Identified himself as “I AM” some say, Jehovah, or Yahweh, but John as well as Daniel describe the same person who is the Lord JESUS. But notice he said, “I AM” the First “I AM”…... “ALSO” … the Last. The LORD all caps described here by the prophet Isaiah is the Lord Jesus who is describe by Daniel and John who he saw on Patmos, listen.
Revelation 1:12 "And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Revelation 1:13 "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Revelation 1:14 "His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Revelation 1:15 "And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Lets see what Daniel saw. Note the same identification in description.
Daniel 10:1 "In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
Daniel 10:2 "In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
Daniel 10:3 "I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
Daniel 10:4 "And in the four and twentieth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, which is Hiddekel;
Daniel 10:5 "Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
Daniel 10:6 "His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
Daniel 10:7 "And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves.
Here we see a blow by blow of the same PERSON. Read both description again. Lets take also another look, this time of the Ancient of days
Daniel 7:9 "I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
Daniel 7:10 "A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
again a blow by blow perfect description of the same person whom John saw.
The same description for the Ancient of days, as with the Lord Jesus . now anyone can disagree with 101G fine, but you cannot disagree with the bible. So look at those scriptures and read for yourself. This is bible, not 101G.
If you read Daniel, there in those Scriptures, it’s just like reading John in Revelation chapter 1. the Same person.
so we clearly know now that the the Lord JESUS is what this Revelation is all about.
PICJAG.
I'm still reading your post and until your next one, I would like to address this above
H2319 חָדָשׁ chadash (chaw-dawsh') adj.
new.
[from H2318]
KJV: fresh, new thing.
Root(s): H2318
H2318 חָדַשׁ chadash (chaw-dash') v.
1. to be new.
2. (causatively) to rebuild.
[a primitive root]
KJV: renew, repair.
in the causatively sense would it not be, Producing new ideas or products?
but I'll wait for your continuance.
PICJAG.
Curious . . . referring to Daniel 10, why would Jesus need Michael the archangel's help to get free from the prince of Persia?
Continuing from Post # 127 above
Armageddon is only mentioned once in the scriptures and that is in Revelation 16:12-16.
It is found here: -
Now this is the sixth bowl judgement recorded by John, and it speaks of the Judgement of the Kings of the earth, which is also mentioned in Isaiah 24:21-22
In the sixth recorded bowl judgement we are told that the Euphrates River, a metaphor, IMHO, for the Baal religion, dries up to allow the kings on the eastern side of the Euphrates River, the dragon, the beast and the false prophet, a way to come up against the Saints of God during the end times.
With the demise of the Baal Religion as a direct result of the spreading of the Gospel after the ascension of Christ, a counterfeit religion came into being and is call the Islamic Religion, which speaks out great things against God the Almighty, a characteristic of the fourth beast of Daniel 7:1-12.
The question that needs to be answered is, "Has this prophetic Bowl judgement started to be played out yet and is it still being played out now?"
In the history of Islam (History of Islam - Wikipedia) the following is stated: -
So that we can see the preparation of the way for the three kings, Satan, the Beast and the False Prophet has been happening over nearly 1400 years so far.
Then in Revelation 12:7-12 we read the following: -
Another passage that confirms our understanding that the present time is in view is found in Daniel 9:26b: -
The question is raised in the last line of verse 26 as to the end of what war is the desolation of the Israelite determined?
My understanding is that the war in heaven between Michael and his angels and Satan and his angels has yet to reached a conclusion. And since Israel is still suffer from desolation, for over 2,000 years now, it is fair to draw the conclusion that the end of Israel’s desolation will end soon. My best guess is that it will be within 25 ± 1,2,3,4, or 5 years.
Another parable which confirms this is found in the parable of the Man who planted a Fig Tree, which had four seasons in which to produce fruit acceptable to the Man who came to inspect the tree at the end of each season.
We are coming to the end of the fourth season of the existence of the Israelites in our near future.
To be continued: -
Shalom
Armageddon is only mentioned once in the scriptures and that is in Revelation 16:12-16.
It is found here: -
Revelation 16:12-16: - Sixth Bowl: Euphrates Dried Up
12 Then the sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, so that the way of the kings from the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 "Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."
12 Then the sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, so that the way of the kings from the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 "Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."
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And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon.Now this is the sixth bowl judgement recorded by John, and it speaks of the Judgement of the Kings of the earth, which is also mentioned in Isaiah 24:21-22
Isaiah 24:21-22: -
21 It shall come to pass in that day
That the Lord will punish on high the host of exalted ones,
And on the earth the kings of the earth.
22 They will be gathered together,
As prisoners are gathered in the pit,
And will be shut up in the prison;
After many days they will be punished.
That the Lord will punish on high the host of exalted ones,
And on the earth the kings of the earth.
22 They will be gathered together,
As prisoners are gathered in the pit,
And will be shut up in the prison;
After many days they will be punished.
In the sixth recorded bowl judgement we are told that the Euphrates River, a metaphor, IMHO, for the Baal religion, dries up to allow the kings on the eastern side of the Euphrates River, the dragon, the beast and the false prophet, a way to come up against the Saints of God during the end times.
With the demise of the Baal Religion as a direct result of the spreading of the Gospel after the ascension of Christ, a counterfeit religion came into being and is call the Islamic Religion, which speaks out great things against God the Almighty, a characteristic of the fourth beast of Daniel 7:1-12.
The question that needs to be answered is, "Has this prophetic Bowl judgement started to be played out yet and is it still being played out now?"
In the history of Islam (History of Islam - Wikipedia) the following is stated: -
The history of Islam concerns the political, social, economic and developments of Islamicate civilization. Most historians believe that Islam originated in Mecca and Medina at the start of the 7th century CE, approximately 600 years after the founding of Christianity. Muslims, however, believe that it did not start with Muhammad, but that it was the original faith of others whom they regard as prophets, such as Jesus, David, Moses, Abraham, Noah and Adam.
In 610 CE, the Islamic Prophet Muhammad began receiving what Muslims consider to be divine revelations. Muhammad's message won over a handful of followers and was met with increasing opposition from Meccan notables. In 622, a few years after losing protection with the death of his influential uncle Abu Talib, Muhammad migrated to the city of Yathrib (now known as Medina). With Muhammad's death in 632, disagreement broke out over who would succeed him as leader of the Muslim community during the Rashidun Caliphate.
In 610 CE, the Islamic Prophet Muhammad began receiving what Muslims consider to be divine revelations. Muhammad's message won over a handful of followers and was met with increasing opposition from Meccan notables. In 622, a few years after losing protection with the death of his influential uncle Abu Talib, Muhammad migrated to the city of Yathrib (now known as Medina). With Muhammad's death in 632, disagreement broke out over who would succeed him as leader of the Muslim community during the Rashidun Caliphate.
So that we can see the preparation of the way for the three kings, Satan, the Beast and the False Prophet has been happening over nearly 1400 years so far.
Then in Revelation 12:7-12 we read the following: -
Revelation 12:7-12: - Satan Thrown Out of Heaven
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
{Revelation 20:1-3: - Satan Bound 1000 Years
20:1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.}
20:1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.}
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea!
{Revelation 9:1-2: - 9:1 Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit.}
For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
Another passage that confirms our understanding that the present time is in view is found in Daniel 9:26b: -
Daniel 9:26b: -
. . . . .
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
The question is raised in the last line of verse 26 as to the end of what war is the desolation of the Israelite determined?
My understanding is that the war in heaven between Michael and his angels and Satan and his angels has yet to reached a conclusion. And since Israel is still suffer from desolation, for over 2,000 years now, it is fair to draw the conclusion that the end of Israel’s desolation will end soon. My best guess is that it will be within 25 ± 1,2,3,4, or 5 years.
Another parable which confirms this is found in the parable of the Man who planted a Fig Tree, which had four seasons in which to produce fruit acceptable to the Man who came to inspect the tree at the end of each season.
We are coming to the end of the fourth season of the existence of the Israelites in our near future.
To be continued: -
Shalom
If you take your old car which is need of a repaint, and repaint it so that it look like new again, has it not been "renewed/refurbished" by the new paint job.
Waiting on him
Well-Known Member
There are two women named Salome in the Bible, but only one is mentioned by that name. One Salome was righteous; the other unrighteous.
The righteous Salome was the wife of Zebedee (Matthew 27:56), the mother of the disciples James and John, and a female follower of Jesus. This Salome was the one who came to Jesus with the request that her sons sit in places of honor in the kingdom (Matthew 20:20–21). She was also one of the women “looking on from a distance” when Jesus was being crucified—with her were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joseph and James (Mark 15:40). These same women were together on the third day after that, bringing spices to Jesus’ tomb to anoint Him. When they encountered the angel, who told them that Jesus was risen, they ran to tell the disciples the good news (Mark 16:1–8). Mark’s Gospel is the only one that mentions Salome by name.
The other, unrighteous Salome is not mentioned by name in the Bible, but we read about what she did in Mark 6. This Salome was part the Herod dynasty, and her family history was convoluted: Herod Antipas (the “King Herod” of Mark 6:14) had divorced his wife and married Herodias, who was the wife of his half-brother Philip (Mark 6:17). However, Herodias herself was the daughter of another of Herod’s half-brothers, Aristobulus, making her not only the wife but the niece of both Philip and Herod—and a sister-in-law of Herod. Salome was Herodias’s daughter through Philip. Thus, Salome was the daughter (and grandniece) of Philip and the step-daughter (and grandniece by marriage) of Herod; she was also both daughter and grandniece to her own mother. When Herodias came to live with Herod Antipas, Salome came with her. This royal family is significant in Bible history because it figures into the story of the death of John the Baptist. John the Baptist had publicly criticized King Herod for his divorce and remarriage to his niece/sister-in-law, and Herodias was enraged. Herod Antipas had John thrown into prison to placate his wife/niece/sister-in-law, Herodias.
John the Baptist’s fate was decided when Herodias’s daughter (Salome) danced for Herod at his birthday banquet. Pleased with the girl’s performance, Herod offered her a rash boon. Salome went to Herodias to ask her advice on what the gift should be, and Herodias told her to ask for the head of John the Baptist on a platter. Salome obediently asked Herod for this grisly gift, and, though the Bible says Herod was grieved, he honored his promise. John was beheaded in prison, and his head given to Herodias’s daughter who took it to her mother (Mark 6:21–28). Though Salome is not mentioned by name in the biblical record, the historian Josephus tells us her name.
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thanks for the replies, I'm keeping up with them. again thanks.
but one thing, do God put NEW Wine into Old bottles? is this why we're sealed?
PICJAG.
No God puts new wine in refurbished leather bottles, because even "new" wine skins can become hard and brittle and fail if new wine is put in them.
That is why we put polish onto our leather shoes periodically to keep the leather like new.
Shalom
Waiting on him
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Just keeping us straight that "Shalom" is a Greeting or a Salutation meaning, essentially, "Peace"..... not a woman's name.
thanks for the reply, but is this not what to the old covenant?, Hebrews 8:13 "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away".
PICJAG.
Revelation 1:16 "And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength".
The seven stars are the leadership in each congregation. Stars here are symbolic for messengers, which can be angelic or human. Here human, which are, or is of the five fold ministry. And the reason why the stares are in his right hand, for these ministries are “Gifts” of his. For the right hand signify A. authority, B. “POWER”, he give us the power to act on his behalf. for they are his “Gifts”, poured out on Pentecost, and listed in 1 Corinthians 12:7 -11. and he give then to whomever he desires. And as we get to the seven churches, our Lord is in these churches/Lampstands or candlesticks. That twoedge sword, as said, is the word of God, Ephesians 6:17 "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God". his countenance is in the glorified state, with flesh and bone, NO BLOOD, (which is why the Father forsook the son on the cross, but that’s another topic for discussion). Just as he was seen in the vision on the mount of transfiguration, (Matthew 17:2). another Supportive scripture of this fact, 1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen”.
So the foregone descriptiveness of the Lord Jesus is clearly revealed in this chapter #1.
Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last”.
Again God vetted himself as the almighty God, the “First” and the “Last, (Isaiah 41:4, Isaiah 44:6, and Isaiah 48:12).
Revelation 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death".
Here again he identifies himself as “I am he”. supportive scripture, Isaiah 52:6 "Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I”.
ok, when and what day was it when he spoke these words? Answer, John 8:24 "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins". BINGO, there it is, one might want to make a cross reference with these two scriptures.
And the final verses, Revelation 1:19 "Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter”.
Revelation, as said is a three fold book. Past, Present, and future. the same with the bible, three dispensation, which is seen in one of his descriptive titles. I AM THAT I AM, or which is, and which was, and which is to come.
the three DISPENSATION.
DISPENSATION #1. "I AM"/which is. JESUS, OT, Spirit, Title "Father", LORD, CREATOR and MAKER OF ALL THINGS.
DISPENSATION #2. "THAT"/which was. Jesus, NT, spirit, Title "Son", Lord, SAVIOUR, and REDEEMER OF ALL THINGS.
DISPENSATION #3. "I AM"/ which is to come. JESUS, OT, NT, Title, "Father", and "son", DIVERSIFIED. titles, LORD, Lord, COMFORTER and MEDIATOR OF ALL THINGS. ..... THE HOLY SPIRIT... THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD.
I AM THAT I AM YESHUA/JESUS.
Revelation 1:20 "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches".
And the mysteries are self explanatory.
Hope you was edified some way in this first chapter.
PICJAG.
The seven stars are the leadership in each congregation. Stars here are symbolic for messengers, which can be angelic or human. Here human, which are, or is of the five fold ministry. And the reason why the stares are in his right hand, for these ministries are “Gifts” of his. For the right hand signify A. authority, B. “POWER”, he give us the power to act on his behalf. for they are his “Gifts”, poured out on Pentecost, and listed in 1 Corinthians 12:7 -11. and he give then to whomever he desires. And as we get to the seven churches, our Lord is in these churches/Lampstands or candlesticks. That twoedge sword, as said, is the word of God, Ephesians 6:17 "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God". his countenance is in the glorified state, with flesh and bone, NO BLOOD, (which is why the Father forsook the son on the cross, but that’s another topic for discussion). Just as he was seen in the vision on the mount of transfiguration, (Matthew 17:2). another Supportive scripture of this fact, 1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen”.
So the foregone descriptiveness of the Lord Jesus is clearly revealed in this chapter #1.
Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last”.
Again God vetted himself as the almighty God, the “First” and the “Last, (Isaiah 41:4, Isaiah 44:6, and Isaiah 48:12).
Revelation 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death".
Here again he identifies himself as “I am he”. supportive scripture, Isaiah 52:6 "Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I”.
ok, when and what day was it when he spoke these words? Answer, John 8:24 "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins". BINGO, there it is, one might want to make a cross reference with these two scriptures.
And the final verses, Revelation 1:19 "Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter”.
Revelation, as said is a three fold book. Past, Present, and future. the same with the bible, three dispensation, which is seen in one of his descriptive titles. I AM THAT I AM, or which is, and which was, and which is to come.
the three DISPENSATION.
DISPENSATION #1. "I AM"/which is. JESUS, OT, Spirit, Title "Father", LORD, CREATOR and MAKER OF ALL THINGS.
DISPENSATION #2. "THAT"/which was. Jesus, NT, spirit, Title "Son", Lord, SAVIOUR, and REDEEMER OF ALL THINGS.
DISPENSATION #3. "I AM"/ which is to come. JESUS, OT, NT, Title, "Father", and "son", DIVERSIFIED. titles, LORD, Lord, COMFORTER and MEDIATOR OF ALL THINGS. ..... THE HOLY SPIRIT... THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD.
I AM THAT I AM YESHUA/JESUS.
Revelation 1:20 "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches".
And the mysteries are self explanatory.
Hope you was edified some way in this first chapter.
PICJAG.
What is the context of this passage? Which covenant is Paul referring to in the passage below?
Hebrews 8:7-13: - A New Covenant
(Jer 31:31-34)
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them, He says: "Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a refurbished/renewed covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah — 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more."
13 In that He says, "A refurbished/renewed covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(Jer 31:31-34)
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them, He says: "Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a refurbished/renewed covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah — 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more."
13 In that He says, "A refurbished/renewed covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Now years later, they rediscover their love for each other and enter into a refurbished/renewed covenant with each other. The outcome of the original and the refurbished/renewed covenants is the same for both parties to the marriage covenant, but the second covenant undertaken between the two in the remarriage will have subtle differences in it from the original marriage covenant that they had entered into previously, such that the original covenant that they had entered into is now obsolete for them both and the refurbished/renewed covenant comes to the fore in their remarriage such that the original marriage covenant is no longer valid between them and so it fades into the background of their renewed marriage.
It seems to me that you are not searching out and meditating on the true meaning of the source language texts.
So often I find that in my rush to have understanding, I miss what is important to come to an appropriate understanding of God's intent and I have to go back and correct the rushed understanding.
Shalom.
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