Revelation 11-the measure of the temple

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Same thing WHO is saying?

so then I’ve misunderstood and you agree the temple of God is Ephesians 2:21-22 ? In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: [22] In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
 

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now, this is my reasoning of the saints that come wirth the Lord.
So... you believe our 'spirit' and 'soul' after flesh death actually resides in a literal hole in the ground until our Lord Jesus returns? Haven't you considered that if our spirit/soul does not continue to that other dimension where it is actually from, then it would no longer exist if it died with flesh? It would no longer exist. Thankfully, our Lord Jesus showed us what happens to our soul after flesh death...

Matt 10:28
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him Which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

KJV

What exactly did our Lord Jesus mean when He said there, "but are not able to kill the soul"???
LOL, you say, no not I, no, our bones are there. the body without the spirit is dead, not the spirt but the body. at resurrection we'll get a new body but on what frame, read Ezekiel 37. man is only capble of killing the body, that's all.


1 Thessalonians 3:13 "To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
now who are those "saints" that come with the Lord at his coming? well.

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so then I’ve misunderstood and you agree the temple of God is Ephesians 2:21-22 ? In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: [22] In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

As I have already said in my earlier posts...

1. the Ephesians 2 temple is a 'spiritual' temple

2. the 2 Thessalonians 2:4 "temple of God" is a PHYSICAL stone temple in Jerusalem.


I get what you're trying to do, but it won't work. You're trying to say anything 'labeled' as the "temple of God" cannot be a literal physical building just because of Apostle Paul's teaching in Ephesians 2, etc. Sorry but you are mistaken; in 2 Thess.2:4 Paul was speaking of the traditional stone temple in Jerusalem, and not the New Covenant spiritual temple. So if you are keeping to some doctrine of men that is preventing you from understanding this difference, then I suggest you quit listening to those doctrines of men.

The main reason why 'those in Christ' are to understand Paul was speaking of a stone temple in Jerusalem with the 2 Thess.2:4 example is because that's a prophecy for the end of this world that was first given in the Book of Daniel.

Another Jewish stone temple in Jerusalem will... be built by the orthodox Jews again for the very end of this world. You nor I can do anything about it. It is Bible prophecy in God's Holy Writ, even though that stone temple will be spiritually desolated by the coming Antichrist. Regardless, the unbelieving Jews will believe that is their Messiah and that that future temple is truly God's temple. You might ought to set your mind ready for that coming event.
 
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now, this is my reasoning of the saints that come wirth the Lord.

LOL, you say, no not I, no, our bones are there. the body without the spirit is dead, not the spirt but the body. at resurrection we'll get a new body but on what frame, read Ezekiel 37. man is only capble of killing the body, that's all.


1 Thessalonians 3:13 "To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
now who are those "saints" that come with the Lord at his coming? well.

PICJAG.

Ezekiel 37 does not negate 1 Corinthians 15 by Paul. Study 1 Cor.15, that is our example today. In OT times they were not given the detail of what kind of body the resurrection is. In the NT we are given the detail, and that detail is our default IF we be in Christ Jesus.

Even in Matthew 22:30 when the Sadduccees (who didn't believe in the resurrection) came to trap Jesus with a question about the woman who had seven husbands, and when they all died who would she be married to in heaven, Jesus then showed how they didn't understand what the resurrection is:

Matt 22:29-32
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, 'Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 "I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?" God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.'
KJV

Not only did Jesus show that the resurrection state is like the "angels of God in heaven", but also He showed how even Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob weren't in a hole in the ground either!

As I have said before, if you believe our spirit/soul dies with our flesh body, then that would mean our soul/spirit ceases to exist, period. There would be nothing to resurrect, because your flesh body is NOT what is resurrected. The resurrection body is NOT a body of flesh like we have today. It is a "spiritual body" like Apostle Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15. And if you refuse to grasp that then I will continue to proclaim how you are dwelling on old Jewish Old Testament traditions of men instead of New Testament doctrine under Christ Jesus.
 

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Ezekiel 37 does not negate 1 Corinthians 15 by Paul. Study 1 Cor.15, that is our example today. In OT times they were not given the detail of what kind of body the resurrection is. In the NT we are given the detail, and that detail is our default IF we be in Christ Jesus.

Even in Matthew 22:30 when the Sadduccees (who didn't believe in the resurrection) came to trap Jesus with a question about the woman who had seven husbands, and when they all died who would she be married to in heaven, Jesus then showed how they didn't understand what the resurrection is:

Matt 22:29-32
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, 'Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 "I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?" God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.'
KJV

Not only did Jesus show that the resurrection state is like the "angels of God in heaven", but also He showed how even Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob weren't in a hole in the ground either!

As I have said before, if you believe our spirit/soul dies with our flesh body, then that would mean our soul/spirit ceases to exist, period. There would be nothing to resurrect, because your flesh body is NOT what is resurrected. The resurrection body is NOT a body of flesh like we have today. It is a "spiritual body" like Apostle Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15. And if you refuse to grasp that then I will continue to proclaim how you are dwelling on old Jewish Old Testament traditions of men instead of New Testament doctrine under Christ Jesus.
GINOLJC, to all
First, thanks for the reply. second, did I said it negated anything? quit jumping to conclusions, 1 Corinthians 15 support what's said in Ezekiel 37. the Lord Jesus gave us the best description of the NEW BODY. Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
well now,are not angels "spirits?" yes, but they don't have flesh and bone as we do, nor as the Lord Jesus do here. and that flesh was changed. showing that we will have flesh and ....... "BONE". but not NATURAL flesh what our parents produce... no. but what God produced. 2 Corinthians 5:1 "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens".
so don't jump to conclusion about marriages we already know that and was not what we were speaking of. now do angels have flesh and bone? no. so cool down ok.

Now what's in the hole or ground as you said. well we came from the ground, and some of us the way we act seems like we came from a hole in the ground, but no, what there is our ........ "BONES". where do you think EVE came from, yes, a bone, which is a whole another topic. it's our bones that God will put new sinew on. yes "YOU", listen, Ezekiel 37:6 "And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD".

who is the "YOU" there Davey? remember before he put "BREATH" in us which make us a living "soul". the "YOU" is the bones. that's why Joseph asked that his "bones" be taken up with the nation departing egypt. that's why we bury people. your bones, when the flesh is consumed by the worms, what's left? ... YOU :eek: YOU is what dead until God puts breath back into you.

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As I have already said in my earlier posts...

1. the Ephesians 2 temple is a 'spiritual' temple

2. the 2 Thessalonians 2:4 "temple of God" is a PHYSICAL stone temple in Jerusalem.

“A physical temple” all caps yeah? “PHYSICAL” His temple is His body...“Physical” made manifest on earth. He even called it ”His body” such in Mark 14:58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

John 2:19-21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. [20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? [21] But he spake of the temple of his body.

Ephesians 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Ephesians 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

Romans 8:11-14 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. [12] Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. [13] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. [14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

2 Corinthians 4:10-11
[10] Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. [11] For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the LIFE also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.


Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

When ...that His Life also might be made manifest in our mortal flesh...by the Spirit that dwells in you....shall also “quicken” your mortal bodies. 2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them ; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

...as God has said “I will dwell in them, and walk in them” shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
That “dwells in them, and walks in them” by his Spirit that dwells in them. That His Life is made manifest. Don’t know what else to say. “I will dwell in them, and walk in them” I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

You're trying to say anything 'labeled' as the "temple of God" cannot be a literal physical building just because of Apostle Paul's teaching in Ephesians 2, etc. Sorry but you are mistaken; in 2 Thess.2:4 Paul was speaking of the traditional stone temple in Jerusalem, and not the New Covenant spiritual temple.
so say you. Doesn’t mean others must agree 2 Thess. 2:4 is speaking of the traditional stone temple. Could suggest this has been handled down of men, so to say it must be true is a stretch. Could say it also could be speaking of His body(which He said plainly), the temple built up of God on the Revelation of Jesus Christ given unto His servants. He spoke of His body in relation to destroy it and I will build up a temple made without hands. Again, blinded until the vail is done away with in Christ yes...then the message wouldn't be we will build another “traditional stone temple in Jerusalem” when Jerusalem above is free.
 
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As I have already said in my earlier posts...

1. the Ephesians 2 temple is a 'spiritual' temple

2. the 2 Thessalonians 2:4 "temple of God" is a PHYSICAL stone temple in Jerusalem.


I get what you're trying to do, but it won't work. You're trying to say anything 'labeled' as the "temple of God" cannot be a literal physical building just because of Apostle Paul's teaching in Ephesians 2, etc. Sorry but you are mistaken; in 2 Thess.2:4 Paul was speaking of the traditional stone temple in Jerusalem, and not the New Covenant spiritual temple. So if you are keeping to some doctrine of men that is preventing you from understanding this difference, then I suggest you quit listening to those doctrines of men.

The main reason why 'those in Christ' are to understand Paul was speaking of a stone temple in Jerusalem with the 2 Thess.2:4 example is because that's a prophecy for the end of this world that was first given in the Book of Daniel.

Another Jewish stone temple in Jerusalem will... be built by the orthodox Jews again for the very end of this world. You nor I can do anything about it. It is Bible prophecy in God's Holy Writ, even though that stone temple will be spiritually desolated by the coming Antichrist. Regardless, the unbelieving Jews will believe that is their Messiah and that that future temple is truly God's temple. You might ought to set your mind ready for that coming event.

as far as it HAS TO BE a traditional stone temple to be measured as the Spiritual temple that grows up in Christ can not be measured ...Ephesians 3:17-19 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, [18] May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; [19] And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
Ephesians 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all

Isaiah 28:17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
...the waters shall overflow “the hiding place”
Luke 2:35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

Matthew 9:3-4 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth. [4] And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?

Isaiah 45:2-3 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron: [3] And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

1 Corinthians 14:24-25 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: [25] And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.

the waters shall overflow the “hiding place” the refuge of lies...
“I will give thee the treasures of darkness” the hidden riches of secret places...
Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.
“and thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest”
1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
 

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then the message wouldn't be we will build another “traditional stone temple in Jerusalem” when Jerusalem above is free.
You are confusing believing Christians with unbelieving Jews. Therefore confused about Bible prophecy.
 

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You are confusing believing Christians with unbelieving Jews. Therefore confused about Bible prophecy.


2 Corinthians 10:12-15 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise. [13] But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you. [14] For we stretch not ourselves beyond our measure, as though we reached not unto you: for we are come as far as to you also in preaching the gospel of Christ: [15] Not boasting of things without our measure, that is, of other men's labours; but having hope, when your faith is increased, that we shall be enlarged by you according to our rule abundantly,
...according to the measure of the rule which God has distributed...but they measure themselves by themselves.
 

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Therefore confused about Bible prophecy.


Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

does the spirit of prophecy which is the testimony of Jesus never agree?
1 Corinthians 14:24-26 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: [25] And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth. [26] How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
 
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GINOLJC, to all
First, thanks for the reply. second, did I said it negated anything? quit jumping to conclusions, 1 Corinthians 15 support what's said in Ezekiel 37. the Lord Jesus gave us the best description of the NEW BODY. Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
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No, already you are in error. Apostle Paul gave the best example of what kind of body the resurrection is. Our flesh will NOT be transfigured like our Lord Jesus' flesh was.

1 Cor 15:42-44
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

KJV

Now just in case some didn't understand Apostle Paul that the resurrection body is to a "spiritual body", he later says this:

1 Cor 15:50
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

KJV
 

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so say you. Doesn’t mean others must agree 2 Thess. 2:4 is speaking of the traditional stone temple. Could suggest this has been handled down of men, so to say it must be true is a stretch. Could say it also could be speaking of His body(which He said plainly), the temple built up of God on the Revelation of Jesus Christ given unto His servants. He spoke of His body in relation to destroy it and I will build up a temple made without hands. Again, blinded until the vail is done away with in Christ yes...then the message wouldn't be we will build another “traditional stone temple in Jerusalem” when Jerusalem above is free.

I really don't care what you want to believe. You can believe the moon is made of cheese for all I care. You make things up as you go along already, so why not also believe that.
 

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The temple of God is the body of Christ which is made up of 144000 stones: which is the Holy Spirit given to each member of the body.
 

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I really don't care what you want to believe. You can believe the moon is made of cheese for all I care. You make things up as you go along already, so why not also believe that.

well Davy I absolutely care what you think. Could care less about what future unfolding you follow but want you more than anything, without a doubt to have what does not perish or fails. Some days I find it hard to get up and keep going and if you ever have those days...maybe one day something I share might encourage you. Stranger things have happened.
 
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The Man of Sin is none other than the coming Antichrist. Definitely NOT the pope or the papacy. The Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, the Beast, that Wicked One, will literally sit in the literal temple in Jerusalem in the future and claim that he is God. This is all the more reason why people today should
There is no such thing as "THE" Anti Christ in the KJV bible.
"That man of sin, the son of perdition" is to be read and understood in the plural.
As most know, the KJV was translated from the Textus Receptus Greek text. In the TR, the words are written as "the wicked" , and not "that Wicked".

The translators inserted the word "that" and then capitalized the letter "w" to "W", thus implying that for all who read it, shall be forced to read it in the singular and not the plural, of which the context of
2 Thessalonians 2 is written.
 

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No, already you are in error. Apostle Paul gave the best example of what kind of body the resurrection is. Our flesh will NOT be transfigured like our Lord Jesus' flesh was.

1 Cor 15:42-44
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

KJV

Now just in case some didn't understand Apostle Paul that the resurrection body is to a "spiritual body", he later says this:

1 Cor 15:50
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

KJV
First thanks for the reply, sceond a resurrection is not a transfiguration, third,did you read my Post #545 closley?
lastly 1 Cor 15:50 you posted tells us the deal. now what's missing in Christ RESURRECTION vs what's stated here in 1 Cor 15:50? don't worry we'll give you the answer, "BLOOD".

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The Man of Sin is none other than the coming Antichrist. Definitely NOT the pope or the papacy. The Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, the Beast, that Wicked One, will literally sit in the literal temple in Jerusalem in the future and claim that he is God. This is all the more reason why people today should obey the Gospel and be saved.
Furthermore, the literal nation of Israel, as the KoG, in any sense of the meaning, became a lost cause, ever since Jesus told them that the KoG was going to be taken from them, and given to the invisible "nation" of Born Again Christians!!
YES! You heard that correctly.

You don't believe it??
Not many do, but here it is:
1 Peter 2[9] But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

What Jesus said:
Matthew 21[43] Therefore say I unto you [Jews], The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
 

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There is no such thing as "THE" Anti Christ in the KJV bible.
Yes there is. While the article "the" is not shown in the Greek nor in the KJV, it is implied. Therefore these versions have "the" before "antichrist" in 1 John 2:18.
New International Version
Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
New Living Translation
Dear children, the last hour is here. You have heard that the Antichrist is coming, and already many such antichrists have appeared. From this we know that the last hour has come.
New King James Version
Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.
NET Bible
Children, it is the last hour, and just as you heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. We know from this that it is the last hour.
New Heart English Bible
Little children, these are the end times, and as you heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have arisen. By this we know that it is the final hour.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
My children, it is an end time, and according to what you have heard that The False Messiah comes, already there have been many false messiahs, and by this we know that it is an end time.
Jubilee Bible 2000
Little children, it is the last hour, and as ye have heard that the antichrist comes, likewise there are also beginning to be many antichrists, by which we know that it is the last time.
World English Bible
Little children, these are the end times, and as you heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have arisen. By this we know that it is the final hour.
Young's Literal Translation
Little youths, it is the last hour; and even as ye heard that the antichrist doth come, even now antichrists have become many -- whence we know that it is the last hour;

And furthermore it is reinforced with terms like "THE Man of Sin, THE Son of Perdition".

So now that you have seen the proof, I trust you will admit that you are wrong and get back on track (though not very likely).
 

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First thanks for the reply, sceond a resurrection is not a transfiguration, third,did you read my Post #545 closley?
lastly 1 Cor 15:50 you posted tells us the deal. now what's missing in Christ RESURRECTION vs what's stated here in 1 Cor 15:50? don't worry we'll give you the answer, "BLOOD".

PICJAG.

What's missing? Nothing is missing except what you left out about Jesus suddenly appearing to His disciples in a closed room, out of thin air. And likewise when He was eating with them at table, He disappeared right in their midst. Flesh and bones like we have cannot do that, reason is because the resurrection body is of that other dimension. Yet it can live upon this earth, as shown in Scripture like Genesis 18 & 19 about Christ Who was one of the 'three men' that appeared to Abraham. And yes, Christ's body was... transfigured, which is why He appeared and disappeared among His disciples after His resurrection.

And you failed to address these Scriptures by Apostle Paul also, which explain that our Lord Jesus' body was transfigured to the resurrection type body, a "spiritual body":

1 Cor 15:44-45
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

KJV

1 Cor 15:47
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

KJV

Apostle Paul's described Christ's resurrection as "a quickening spirit".


Our Lord Jesus had no flesh body before He was born in the flesh through Mary's womb. God doesn't need a flesh body to exist. Neither do the angels. Even Apostle John noted the difference between Christ's resurrected body and our flesh body of today:

1 John 3:2
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is.
KJV


John says we will be like Him (Jesus) when He appears (2nd coming). Well since Apostle Paul defined the type of body the resurrection is, i.e., a "spiritual body", that has to also mean that is the type of body our Lord Jesus has after being resurrected. So couple all those Scripture examples with what you quoted from Luke 24:39 and you'll have 'the rest of the story' like Paul Harvey used to say.
 

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What's missing? Nothing is missing except what you left out about Jesus suddenly appearing to His disciples in a closed room, out of thin air. And likewise when He was eating with them at table, He disappeared right in their midst. Flesh and bones like we have cannot do that, reason is because the resurrection body is of that other dimension. Yet it can live upon this earth, as shown in Scripture like Genesis 18 & 19 about Christ Who was one of the 'three men' that appeared to Abraham. And yes, Christ's body was... transfigured, which is why He appeared and disappeared among His disciples after His resurrection.

And you failed to address these Scriptures by Apostle Paul also, which explain that our Lord Jesus' body was transfigured to the resurrection type body, a "spiritual body":

1 Cor 15:44-45
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

KJV

1 Cor 15:47
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

KJV

Apostle Paul's described Christ's resurrection as "a quickening spirit".


Our Lord Jesus had no flesh body before He was born in the flesh through Mary's womb. God doesn't need a flesh body to exist. Neither do the angels. Even Apostle John noted the difference between Christ's resurrected body and our flesh body of today:

1 John 3:2
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is.
KJV


John says we will be like Him (Jesus) when He appears (2nd coming). Well since Apostle Paul defined the type of body the resurrection is, i.e., a "spiritual body", that has to also mean that is the type of body our Lord Jesus has after being resurrected. So couple all those Scripture examples with what you quoted from Luke 24:39 and you'll have 'the rest of the story' like Paul Harvey used to say.
(smile), you still missed my point, as said, the Lord Jesus have flesh and bone, but no "BLOOD", that body of his is glorified with the Spirit.

as a quickening spirit he make changes, in our body body, we put on a NEW ONE that he gives us, not a transformation of spirit or soul.
Our Lord Jesus had no flesh body before He was born in the flesh through Mary's womb. God doesn't need a flesh body to exist. Neither do the angels. Even Apostle John noted the difference between Christ's resurrected body and our flesh body of today:
you must not have been listening. we know know that the lord Jesus did,'t have flesh and bone before he came through mary. but God got a body through Mary birthing it, scripture, Colossians 2:9 "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily". BINGO.

And yes, Christ's body was... transfigured, which is why He appeared and disappeared among His disciples after His resurrection
the Lord's body was not ethereal, but was powered by the Spirit himself. as said, Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have". how many times must we say this?

understand, "BLOOD" is the life of the flesh in the natural world. see Leviticus 17:11. it is the Spirit in the resurrected stated that gives LIFE to the flesh and bone body in the world to come.

hope you understand,

PICJAG.