The Book of Revelation, Understood?

Davy said:

Well, it is Biblical as there is Scripture proof everywhere!

The Father wasn't sent to be born through woman's womb to die on the cross.

Even the following question the blind Pharisees couldn't understand because of their false traditions...

Matt 22:41-45
41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42 Saying, "What think ye of Christ? whose son is He?" They say unto Him, 'The Son of David.'
43 He saith unto them, "How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
44 'The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on My right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?'
45 If David then call Him Lord, how is He his son?
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First thanks for the reply, and second open your eyes. no spirit is born. let me say that again, no spirit is born, only flesh and bone with blood is born. that's a mistke you been taught. a woman can only birth flesh and bone with blood.

again open your eyes to the truth, the Lord is the LORD diversified in flesh... but you have no clue as to how this can be, do you.

the "LORD" here is speaking.
Zechariah 12:8 "In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

Zechariah 12:9 "And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn".

ok Davey who is this speaking, and when was the "LORD" pierced?.

PICJAG.

Davy said:

That is Christ speaking, and it is about His side being pierced upon His cross. Easy. He is showing there that the "inhabitants of Jerusalem", more literally the "house of Judah" at Jerusalem at Jesus' 1st coming, were who pierced Him by rejecting Him and pushing for Him to be crucified. In final, God is going to remove those unbelieving Jew's blindness He put upon them, and that is when they will see Jesus of Nazareth as the true Messiah prophesied to them, and many of them will then believe on Him.

Jesus also showed that future time in The Gospel when those deceived Jews will mourn and weep for Him...

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so was not it the "LORD" all cap speaking who you say is JESUS? yes or no.

PICJAG.

Davy said:

So now you are steering away from the previous subject and instead into a treatise on the meaning of the OT 'Angel of The Lord'? Or maybe you don't believe it possible for that title to apply to Jesus in OT times, I don't know. Point is, you cannot blend those descriptions of Christ's separate operations vs. The Father's and say they don't exist as Persons in The Godhead. That 'Oneness' theology you're on is from Judaizers, the Pharisee convert bunch who still to this day find it difficult to understand how it was that God was born in the flesh as Jesus of Nazareth and was Immanuel God with us on earth.

So now, answer that question Jesus asked the Pharisees in Matthew 22:41-45 if you want to go to this subject.

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GINOLJC, to all.
so we can take this as you cannot answer the question..... (smile). which we knew you could not, so avoid the truth by changing the subject, no problem.

Matthew 22:41-45

A. the Lord Jesus is not David biological Son, he is David creator and maker, John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24.

B. the term Son in the bible in reference to our Lord Jesus is G5207 υἱός huios, where it's used metaphorically of prominent moral characteristics. as with the apostle Paul and Timothy,1 Corinthians 4:17 "For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church". was Timothy Paul's biological Son?, of course not, don't be silly. Just as the Lord Jesus is not David biological Son.

C. just as you and I when we "ACT" like God in his way and character, then we can be CALLED "sons of God".

D. now since you cannot answer the Matthew 22:43 & 44 question we will. "He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, verse 44 "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?". in spirit, not in fleshly NATURE, but in "spirit" david called Jesus his "Lord"... lol, man this is too easy. for he is David Lord, as well as yours and mine, and he is our God, supportive scripture,

John 20:26 "And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
John 20:27 "Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
John 20:28 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. (did you get that Davy? my "Lord" and my GOD/"LORD", God is "LORD", whom you have no clue who is the Spirit, the Father).
John 20:29 "Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

now Davey hear the Lord, thy God, JESUS, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

so when Thomas said, "My Lord and my God", he is saying my "Lord" my "LORD"...... (smile) because "LORD" = God, see Deuteronomy 6:4 ABOVE. JESUS is "Lord" (shared in flesh) and "LORD", (Spirit without flesh). in the IMAGE of God which is MAN, God "diversified" himself as a man. for the term MAN, ADAM H121 אָדָם 'Adam, is for a single Man which God is in Spirit, but the Term MAN, Adam H120 אָדָם 'adam (aw-dawm') n-m. is for "ANOTHER" man, from the FIRST Man...... which you have no clue of. for Eve is the Man that came out of the First Man, hence the term "woMAN" for she was "taken" out of man. so she, Eve, is a "Diversity", or ANOTHER, NUMERICALLY of the first man. God in Flesh is ANOTHER of himself which is Spirit, "Shared" in flesh. BINGO. there is your answer.

JESUS, who is God, is the "Diversity" of himself in "Flesh". the SAME one Person "Diversified".

CONCLUSION: in spirit he's not David biological Son, but is David's Lord and GOD....

now according to the flesh, he's not David's biological Son there either ... lol, lol... no, he sprang out, not from, but sprang out of the tribe of Judah... you understand now. he LEGALLY came through the surrogate motherhood of the woman Mary who is "from" Judah....

now we explained this to you in depth, but it will take an in-death experince for you to understand, (that one for you willie).

so the Lord Jesus is neither David son biologically nor spiritually, but his, David Lord and God.

NOW Davey, since you know now that JESUS is both "Lord" and God.... and God = "LORD" who is the Farther according to Deuteronomy 6:4, now we ask you this, "Tell us how Jesus is speaking to his ownself in Psalms 110:1 "The LORD (GOD/JESUS, Father) said unto my Lord (Jesus, GOD, Son), Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool".

Well Davey......... cain't wait to hear that response.

PICJAG.

First thanks for the reply, second,

Davy said:

Wrong! Jesus of Nazareth was born through Mary's womb who was a descendant of the house of David, via David's son Nathan (Luke 3). Thus Jesus was... in the biological lineage of David, and thus rightly called "the son of David".

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Your first ERROR, Jesus the Spirit is never born. only Flesh was born. supportive scripture,
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace".
did you get that Davey? "a child is BORN/flesh and blood". a SON is Given. see the Son is Given not BORN. let's see it clearly.
the Son of man and the son of God.
the Son of God is born, Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God".

lets see where the Son of man come from. John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven".

John 6:38 "For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me". Mary didn't birth that.

now this is for all murmures and who don't believe who the Lord Jesus is. John 6:41 "The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.
John 6:42 "And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?". lol, lol, bot Oh boy, when will they learn. oh well.......

understand something Davey, the Son of God is flesh, the Son of man is Spirit. BINGO.

Davy said:

Ezzzzz (buzzer), wrong again. Jesus of Nazareth was literally... the son of David, biologically, via Mary's lineage.

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the Lord Jesus is not Mary's seed, or any other woman either. she only birth the vessel that he came in, meaning she is only a surrogate mother. my, my, my, this is basic bible information. look Jesus is before Abraham, because he made Abraham. and Abrahan was before Mary.... see Davey, you're still fleshly minded.

Davy said:

Wrong yet again, you're battin' a 0.00 so far. Believers on Christ do not attempt to be God, that was Satan's sin. When believers on Christ are called "sons of God" it means 'children of God', not acting as literal gods.

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Third ERROR, Sons of God are not Gods, or gods.... lol. sons of God are "holy". did you get that? be ye holy for I AM Holy....
you're still on metaphors, "children", you got to grow up.

Davy said:

You failed, because Jesus came through Mary's womb who literally was descended from David via David's son Nathan. Thus Jesus was also... biologically a son of David.

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the only thing I failed in is getting your hard head open to the truth. Jesus was never a biologial Son of David. or any other man neither...lol.

Davy said:

And in the Matthew 1 chapter, we are shown Mary's husband Joseph's genealogy who was biologically of the house of David via David's son Solomon. And it is with Joseph's lineage that Jesus was LEGALLY figured, not Mary's. So you actually have that backwards!

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no, you're backward, for Joseph's lineage gave the Lord Jesus "LEGAL" right to the throne, because the Flesh that was "BORN"in his HOUSE, Jesus step in.... so the Legal line is of Joseph and Mary.

Davy said:

Jesus of Nazareth is thus BOTH The Christ, Immanuel (God with us), God having come in the flesh, and also a literal biological son of David. And Mary's lineage is both from Levi and the house of David, thus Christ Jesus is King of kings, and Lord of lords.

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you just said, "Jesus of Nazareth is thus BOTH The Christ, Immanuel (God with us)", well do Jesus, (GOD), havew a father according to the flesh? as Jesus said, "how is he his son?".... .

PICJAG.

GINOLJC, to all.
Introduction to chapter 5.
This chapter contain a few mysteries that we need to clear up, and ANSWER. For those who don’t have a working knowledge of “diversified oneness” we will try to make this as plain as we can. The first mystery is in verse 1. “The Godly principle of his divine WILL”. the second mystery is a double mystery in verse 5, 6 & 12, in short he who stands, (that was slain, now resurrected, the Lamb), is he who sits, (on the throne), this is what is called in the bible, “The mystery of Godliness”, see 1 Timothy 3:16. these mysteries will be examine and revealed for clarity. But keep in mind, that chapter 5 is still dealing with the coming judgment, (after his resurrection). again it fills prophecy, even as we speak, that which was spoken of in Psalms 110:1. his enemies are here on planet earth. This is the reason for the Comforter, the Helper, our Advocate to help us through these trying latter times. (which is the reason why his resurrection is so important to the saints today).

Revelation 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
In order to understand this book/scroll is to do what was told us, “whatsoever things that was written afore time was written for our learning”. so lets goto the OT. Book of Ezekiel 2:9 & 10 "And when I looked, behold, an hand was sent unto me; and, lo, a roll of a book was therein; verse :10 "And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without: and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe”. the exact same kind of book here, written within and without, or on the backside, is the same kind of book that was in his RIGHT hand here in revelation.

In this book, contained, "lamentations" which are interpreted as the sorrows of the righteous in this world, the passionate expression of grief or sorrow; weeping...as our Lord and saviour said in, Matthew 24:7 & 8 "For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. Verse 8 "All these are the beginning of sorrows”. "mourning" was in the book, the expression of deep sorrow for someone who has died in this world, and "woe" It is especially pronounced on those who have had privileges and have not answered to them, in this world.

So the book contains thing that is coming, and needs understanding, but the righteous who obey God will not suffer these thing but will witness them, (hence the sorrows). it is important to know that what is to come, God, the Holy Spirit reveal them unto us now in these latter times, and in these time he God, the Holy Spirit “comfort” us his people through all these times. that’s the theme of this chapter, is “to know”, thart God is with us in Spirit, until he returns in person.

In this, “to know”, bring us to why the book is in his “right” hand. This answers another hard bible question which many saints struggle with. if this is the Lord Jesus who is setting on the throne, waiting for the fulfillment of Psalms 110:1, and he as God with “all power”, should he as God should know his return date?. Well that’s a good question, and needs a proper answer.

By the book being in his “Right” hand, it signify his “will” not to know. This is what is called,
“The Godly principle of his divine WILL”
Lets explain. First we must understand why the Lord Jesus don’t know his return date. The answer is simple, it’s the first mystery we will examine, which is the principle of the divine act of his will, meaning “A WILL NOT TO KNOW”. let’s understand this “will” not to know principle. scripture, Matthew 6:3 "But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth”. hold it, how can one not know what both of theirs hands are doing, since they are both your hands. but I have a will, and I will not to know what one of my own hands are doing or not. Let me give you an example of this. sometimes people may come to me, or maybe this could be you, they come in confidentiality, (a friend), about something. What I do is file it in the back of my mind and will not to remember it until that person bring it to my memory. So it’s an act of my own will, I “WILL” not to remember what they told me in order not to say anything to anyone else about it, even if by accident. So I will it NOT to remember what they told me. But let’s see this principle on the Godly scale that I just used, but now by the almighty God himself, using the same principle found in Matthew 6:3. Scripture, Jeremiah 31:31-34 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more”. God said that he would “NOT” REMEMBER our sin no more. HOLD IT, STOP the PRESS, how can almighty God not remember? Do he not know everything? Yes, but what is the answer here? because he chooses, by his "will" not to remember, it’s an ACT of his WILL not to know. This is the Godly principle of not remembering something. This is an ACT of the divine “WILL” of God, he wills not to remember. Now, holding Matthew 6:3 in our head, "But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth”. let’s go back to Revelation 5:1. "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals”. ok what hand is the book in? Answer, the RIGHT HAND. What did Matthew 6:3 "But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth”. BINGO,

in the next verses he shows us why he did not/wills to know. coming up next.

PICJAG.

Here is the answer why he didn't know his return date. "no one was found worthy, so he swore by himself".
Revelation 5:2 "And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
An open book signify a. knowledge, b. understanding. other words comprehension or the wisdom of God.

Revelation 5:3 "And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
No man in heaven, meaning, or signified as angels or holy ones. nor any man in the earth, signified as no living and breathing man. Or any man under the earth, signifying any dead man. So in this search NO MAN, dead or alive, or angelic was worthy to open the book.
Revelation 5:4 "And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
John temporarily lost hope, no man, repeat no man, or lets put it this way, no “CREATURE” was worthy. No creation of God was worthy. so a search was on, no one was worthy, But salvation cometh. Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me".
so God had to Come himself, and he did it by coming flesh and bone. his, "OWN"ARM? yes the Spirit, the Father's own ARM is JESUS in Flesh.

Revelation 5:5 "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. Verse 6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. Verse 7 "And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne”.
knowing Matthew 6:3, by the Lamb (the Father, the Spirit, not the Lamb of, of, of, God, but the Lamb himself took the book out of the, the Son “right” hand who sits on the throne), now we know why he, the Lord Jesus the Son dose not know his return date now, because by taking the book out of his “OWN” RIGHT HAND he as God, who is the Son WILLS not to know, nor remember his return date. BINGO, ANOTHER HARD QUESTION OF THE BIBLE ANSWERED.

Here in chapter 5 the Godly principle of the WILL is clearly see for us to understand. and by exercising his will not to REMEMBER, he fulfills what he had stated in Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only”. when JESUS says “My Father”, he’s saying “My” Spirit. that's why the apostle Paul said in, 1 Corinthians 2:10 & 9 "But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. verse 11 "For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God". in this case, his return date which is in the book that is sealed in his right hand, and by taking the book out of his “own” RIGHT hand by the Spirit/Father. in doing so he fulfills the scripture as stated, Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only". and his Father, which is HIS Spirit is as said SENT FORTH into all the EARTH, (see verse 6 above).

this sending Forth of the Holy Spirit is the fulfilment of Psalms 110:1, and this was accomplish by the fosaking of the son on the cross. Matthew 27:45 "Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.Matthew 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?". this forsaking was to release the full power of God in a Glorified fleshly body. as was with Gideon, Judges 6:13 & 14 "And Gideon said unto him, Oh my Lord, if the LORD be with us, why then is all this befallen us? and where be all his miracles which our fathers told us of, saying, Did not the LORD bring us up from Egypt? but now the LORD hath forsaken us, and delivered us into the hands of the Midianites. verse 14 "And the LORD looked upon him, and said, Go in this thy might, and thou shalt save Israel from the hand of the Midianites: have not I sent thee?". and here's the answer to this chapter, the Senting of the Son of man in Spirit to comfort his people throught these times. Zechariah 4:6 "Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts". was it not "his" spirit that was poured out on Penetcost? yes. Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth". BINGO.

Conclusion on verse 1: it is the Lord Jesus who sits as High Priest, and King. He sits because a sitting PRIEST is finish from his work, (as he said on the cross, “it is finish”). And as he sits on the throne, in Judgment and he’s interceding on behalf of his church, helping his body/the church on earth as advocate, and comforter/the Holy Spirit. so before his people go through anythin he prepares them and "comfort" them in these trying times.

So in the process of understanding who sits on the throne we understand why the Lord Jesus don’t know his return date. And that he who stands, is the Lamb, Jesus in a Glorified state, (John 17:5). the apostle Peter didn't lie, "God who raised Jesus up", yes, Jesus raised up his "OWN" body, and now in Spirit comfort us, to carry us through, not raptured out, no but to help us endure to the end.

PICJAG.

P.S. I know I just touched on only a few thing, but there is much, I mean much more here to understand. there are several topic to cover in just this one chapter alone. but I hope some clarity is made.

Note: the book in his right hand, “Written Within and on the back side”. Indicating the completeness of the divine counsels contained in the book. And by being “sealed”, its contents is only known by it’s writer who only can and have the right to open the seals.

GINOLJC, to all.
Revelation 5:8 "And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Revelation 5:9 "And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
He who took the book was the only one who was worthy and qualified, God himself. Why? Isaiah 59:14-19 "And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter. Verse 15 "Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. Verse 16 "And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. Verse 17 "For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. (see Ephesians 6:13-20). verse 18 "According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence. Verse 19 "So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him".

because of God bringing Righteous Justice in the earth, and in this Justice are we “DELIVERED”, hence we sing,or celebrate the victory in Christ Jesus.
Psalms 96:1 & 2 "O sing unto the LORD a new song: sing unto the LORD, all the earth. verse 2 "Sing unto the LORD, bless his name; shew forth his salvation from day to day”. God is saving people every day, Acts 2:38 "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Verse 39 "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call”. question, is the Lord calling, people today, even as we speak? Yes, as the Psalmist said, “shew forth his salvation from day to day”. for his Spirit is the standard or the SALVATION, which we “escape” the corruption, the injustices, and the unrighteousness of this world. read that again, STOP AND THINK, chapter 5 here is telling us that it is by his Spirit that we are “SAVED”. BINGO. this is the theme of chapter 5. he saves by his “Spirit”. hence his resurrection, and the shedding of, or the pouring out his Spirit onto us. The Hebrew word for standard is H5127 נוּס nuwc (noos) v.
1. to flit, i.e. vanish away (subside, escape).
2. (causatively) to chase, impel, deliver.
[a primitive root]
KJV: X abate, away, be displayed, (make to) flee (away, -ing), put to flight, X hide, lift up a standard.

the LORD put this here in the middle of this post for all those who read this will be blessed as John said of his book of Revelation, Revelation 1:3 "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand”. this is why one read and discuss God word. BINGO, Salvation comes by God Spirit, who is Jesus. 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty”. many christian have no clue of this verse significant.

he Jesus is that Spirit, the Lamb. they fell down before the Lamb.this is the same one person DIVERSIFIED, in flesh, who sits on the throne. lets be sure by scripture Philippians 2:10 & 11 "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; verse 11 “And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father”. that glory is in his “Son” he who is standing, meaning Lamb”, the diversity of him who sits on the throne. Lets see it by scripture. Isaiah 45:23 "I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear”. BINGO, that’s JESUS, the Lamb, in the OT speaking. for when God the Spirit/the Father say “My” Son, he is saying “My” Body. and being glorified in the Son, his “OWN” Spirit, who is Father, because, John 17:1 "These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee”. for John declared, John 13:32 "If God be glorified in him, God shall also glorify him in himself, and shall straightway glorify him”. BINGO. the bible is not changing for anyone, the TRUTH STANDS. Speaking of the truth, the Spirit of Truth who is standing here in chapter 5 as the LAMB, and is sent into the earth. Why? For salvation, as we have said. To “DELIEVER”, and to “COMFORT” us through these trying times. Supportive scripture,
Joel 2:28 "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions
:Joel 2:29 "And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit
.Joel 2:30 "And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke
.Joel 2:31 "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come
.Joel 2:32 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call”.
DELIVERANCE here is the "STANDARD" or the escape, or the "SALVATION" for God' s people in these latter days. just as Isaiah 59:19 states.
deliverance: H4422 מָלַט malat (maw-lat') v.
1. (properly) to be smooth.
2. (by implication) to escape (as if by slipperiness).
3. (causatively) to release or rescue.
4. (specifically) to bring forth young.
5. to emit sparks.
[a primitive root]
KJV: deliver (self), escape, lay, leap out, let alone, let go, preserve, save, X speedily, X surely.

this started on “PENTECOST”. the standard came on the day of Pentecost. The deliverer came on Pentecost, the Saviour of the world came on Pentecost, the COMFORTER come on Pentecost. The Holy Ghost, his OWN Spirit, JESUS, (who is all the afore mention), came on Pentecost. BINGO, JESUS came on Pentecost, (which is his first of his two fold coming, the next will be in body, for all eyes to see). This is why I know he came, not in appearance, but in Spirit. Zechariah 4:6 "Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts”.

No conclusion for it has been given to them who has read.

PICJAG.

Revelation 5:10 "And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth".
Hath here is a past tense designation, indicative of the time in which this was spoken. Meaning this is a DONE DEAL. us in him, who obey his commands, he has made us, and not ourselves, kings and priests. For we have already been placed in his Kingdom. Supportive scripture, Colossians 1:13 "Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son”: we, we, we has been “TRANSLATED”, into his Kingdom, meaning unlike Elvis, we have not left the “BUILDING”, or the planet, his kingdom is not of this world, but we have been seated IN Christ Jesus in Heavenly Places. (see Ephesians 2:6). for the scripture clearly states, “and we shall reign on the earth”. how clear can one gets, over, and over, we are not leaving the planet. For we’re made kings and priest here on planet earth. not only to reign as overcomers of sin and corruption here in this world, but we will even judge angels in the world to come. Supportive scripture, 1 Corinthians 6:3 "Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?”. For eyes have not seen, nor ears have heard, 1 Corinthians 2:9 "But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him”. where is this written? Isaiah 64:4 "For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him”. so instead of “preparing for gloom and doom”, we need to be preparing for what has God in store for us who obey his commands. building an underground bunker is "faithless".

Revelation 5:11 "And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
Hebrews 12:22 "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels”. but some of these angels was set for JUDGMENT, by the Lord, Daniel 7:10 "A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened”.

Revelation 5:12 "Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
Here again, it is the Lamb the, “ROOT”, the LORD, the Spirit that is JESUS, the Father now Glorified in the Son, by his Spirit, the Holy Spirit. supportive scripture, John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was”.. BINGO. But one might say, is it not Jesus who sits on the throne who received POWER?, yes, for the verse states, “Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power”. the Lamb that is standing, the Father, was never slain, he who “was” past tense, slain receive power, who is the OFFSPRING, that sits on the throne. For he that “was” slain, is the “diversity” of God/the Spirit, who now sits on the throne, he who stands is the “ROOT”, that is sent into all of the world. For the ROOT is Spirit, who do not yet appear in bodily form hence his “MANIFESTATION" of the Spiritual Gifts that was poured out on PENTECOST. (one might want to read the previous post to understand). For the “ROOT” AND THE “OFFSPRING”IS THE SAME PERSON, only diversified, or shared in nature. Read Rev 22:16 again. Lets prove this by the scriptures, as to who the Lamb is, the Father, God.
Scripture, John 20:27 "Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing”.
John 20:28 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God”. HOLD IT, when did God, whom many have said is the Father, when did he have HANDS?. or have a side for thomas to thrust his hands into? …. Thomas said,”my Lord”, which is signifying the Son, and “my” God, which is signifying the Father. BINGO, now if one say that the Son and the Father are two separate and distinct person, now you have two separate and distinct Gods. for the Lord is the Lord in diversity. and if two Gods, that’s polytheism at it’s best. It’s one GOD, that is a numerical difference of himself in flesh, this is exactly what G243 allos describes, a numerical difference. Now, lets see it clearly.

Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing
Here in Revelation 5:12, this verses was taken straight out of 1 Chronicles 29:10-12 listen, "Wherefore David blessed the LORD before all the congregation: and David said, Blessed be thou, LORD God of Israel our father, for ever and ever. verse 11 "Thine, O LORD, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all. Verse 12 "Both riches and honour come of thee, and thou reignest over all; and in thine hand is power and might; and in thine hand it is to make great, and to give strength unto all”.

Here in 1 Chronicles 29:10-12 this praise is given unto the “LORD”, all caps, GOD, which many say is the Father. Ok , if this is the ONE whom you calls the Father, question, “when was the Father slain?”. read, for the Lamb who received, the power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and the blessing, both riches and honour WAS SLAIN. Well? ….. again I say, when then was the “LORD”, the one whom you say is Father, who received all this was SLAIN? See the problem now with the titles “LORD”, and “Lord”. if they are interchangable, then one do not not have any separate and distinct person(s) in the Godhead. See the problem now?

Listen and UNDERSTAND, for the Father is glorified in the Son, and the Son is glorified in the Father.
1 Corinthians 12:4 "Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. ”Father”
1 Corinthians 12:5 "And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. “Son”
1 Corinthians 12:6 "And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
The Father and the Son is the same one true and living God, only diversified.

Conclusion: it is the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, God,/Jesus, as the Father, who is worthy to open the seals. meaning having the seven Spirit, Revelation 3:1 "And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead”. this is he who is the Lamb, the seven Spirit which the Son has.. Again one might want to make a cross reference with theses to scriptures, 1 Chronicles 29:10-12 and Revelation 5:12. the bile is just, and justified itself with the truth.

next post we will finish up on chapter 5.

PICJAG

Revelation 5:13 "And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
All Power, glory, honour, and blessing is unto him, not them, but “HIM” who sitteth upon the throne and the Lamb, who is the Father/Holy Spirit, (see previous post). The verse said unto “HIM”, one person, for he who sits on the throne and the Lamb is one person, not two. For he who sitteth on the throne is he who stand is the "diversity" of himself. again (See above post).

Revelation 5:14 "And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever”.
Again, “him” that live for ever, not them. 1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen”. only one, “him”, who only has immortality. BINGO. not three, but ONE. listen and understand,
Hebrews 1:6-10 "And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Verse 7 "And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Verse 8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Verse 9 "Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. Verse 10 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands". thy God? which is simply implying his Spirit, listen, Proverbs 8:22 "The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old". in Hebrews it said, "THY" God, well THY is a archaic or dialect form of your. and "YOUR" means belonging to or associated with the person or people that the speaker is addressing. BINGO, Proverbs 8:22 "The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old". a possession indicate "MY". asin my Father, which is his Spirit. man oh man this is too easy. when the Lord Jesus say "my" Father in heaven, he is saying "my" Spirit which is in heaven. what a revelation.... oh well.

then Hebrews states, The “Lord” in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth? What you say, Isaiah 51:13 "And forgettest the LORD thy maker, that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; and hast feared continually every day because of the fury of the oppressor, as if he were ready to destroy? and where is the fury of the oppressor?”.

Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.
Isaiah 48:13 "Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together". hold it, was it not the LORD, all caps in Isaiah 51:13 who hands "laid the foundations of the earth?". but in Isaiah 48:12 & 13 it is the First and the Last who habds that laid the foundation of the EARTH. lets see who is the First and the last. Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
Revelation 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death". HOLD the PRESS, the First and the Last who hands laid the foundation of the earth was "DEAD", and now "ALUIVE?". are we getting this, are we comprehending what the bible is telling us?

Psalms 102:24 "I said, O my God, take me not away in the midst of my days: thy years are throughout all generations.
Psalms 102:25 "Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
Psalms 102:26 "They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:
Psalms 102:27 "But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.
Psalms 102:28 "The children of thy servants shall continue, and their seed shall be established before thee.

Now this, Zechariah 12:1 "The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
What did Hebrews 1:10 say? "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Hold it, is it not the Lord is Jesus, the one whom we call the SON? Well how can two separate and distinct person take the credit of the same one thing? Isaiah said, 51:13 "And forgettest the LORD thy maker, that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth”. see these titles are not interchangeable they are signifying the same one PERSON, and not person(s).

So the “LORD”, all caps made, and laid the foundation of the earth. But was it not the “Lord” who made and laid the foundation of the earth? yes, Hebrews 1:10 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:”.

AGAIN, one need to read John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 again, it's the SAME ONE PERSON who "MADE ALL THINGS".
Well that separate and distinct person goese right out the window again, and again, and again.

People this is the same one God of the OT, now manifested in Flesh, by "sharing" himself in flesh. that we’re dealing with here. .. oh well.

As we end this chapter we can see the one true God is a diversity of his own self in a glorified body as a man. but in this glorification, he the Spirit is the SAVIOUR, by way of his "diversity" saves the WORLD.

One more time I will try to explain the “diversity of God, or the plurality of God. just as Eve, the woman is a plurality of the one man Adam. Simply put “ANOTHER” of oneself. JESUS, the SON is the plurality or the ANOTHER of himself in flesh. And the Greeks has a word for this plurality, G243 allos, Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort. a numerical difference of the same "SORT", means the SAME NATURE. is this example, Father ….. the G243 of the Father is the Son, a numerical difference. 1. Father, 2. son, a numerical difference In NATURE, and not “persons”. Not two separate and distinct person, no the same person only “shared” in flesh. Just as the terminology of the name Adam, meaning another of oneself,
ADAM: H120 אָדָם 'adam (aw-dawm') n-m.
ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.).
[from H119]
KJV: X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person.
Root(s): H119

There she is … “ANOTHER”. the woman Eve. In comparison, the term Adam/God means 1. Man/Father, and 2. Son/Woman, only showing the relationship, not the nature. So the term GOD= 1. Father, 2. Son. Not two separate person as in ANOTHER that is G2087 heteros, (which is separate), but in G243 allos … meaning in "SHARING" or “WITH” each other. scripture, notice the use of “WITH” Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God”. understand he has the same Spirit/nature, Spirit of Christ and the Spirit of God, the same-self one Spirit.

Conclusion: chapter 5 is showing that salvation comes by his Spirit. it is the Holy Spirit God who reveals the truth to us. And his name is JESUS.

This ends chapter. hope this helps someone.

PICJAG.

marks said:

There comes a time when we should just sit down without the computer and just read the Bible.

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yes, with the Holy Spirit.

PICJAG.

GINOLJC, to all
Today Revelation chapter 6, with a two part posting.
Post #1.
Background Information: JUDGMENT. What is a Judgment? the ability to make considered decisions or come to sensible conclusions. Knowing this, there are judgments for correction, and there is a judgment of condemnation.
Condemnation ends all possibilities of peace. but everyone is not on death row, only in need of correction. on the other hand Correction receives the grace of God to cover over sin and holds out hope of a new kind of life. but correction is not plesant, but the result proves beneficial. Hebrews 12:5 "And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: verse 6 "For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. verse 7 "If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? verse 8 "But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. verse 9 "Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

So a Judgment is not always gloom and doom, NOT FOR THE CHILD OF GOD, but correction have its rewards. Growing up, I remember when my parents chastised me with the rod of correction, (smile), they would say, “this hurts us more than it hurts you”, well at that time, No, it hurted …… a lot. but the benefit or the reward proved to be a blessing. I could only see the then and now, but my Parents was looking to the future. It took me some years… and I mean …. years later to understand what they meant.

here in chapter 6, he, God, the Lord Jesus, is the ultimate Judge, who look out for our benefit/reward for the future. as a good responsible parent he look to the future, the coming age. one thing the church needs to know is this, that we’re not appointed unto his wrath of condemnation, but if needed “correction”. that should be clear in our heads.

Now we will reveal the opening of the seals but first the four beast/living creatures. WHICH, if one who have been following this topic know that we have discussed these four beast/living creatures. not in complete detail, but we have a a good working knowledge of them. if anyone have any new information or want to share your thoughts on these four judgments please post them.

The key to these four sore judgments/horseman is to keep one hand on Revelation chapter 6 here and the other hand on the book of Ezekiel.

First the Identity of the four beast/living creatures.

We need to identify who these creatures are. Previous, we learned what their judgments are but now their identity. Ezekiel 1:1-11 "Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God. Verse 2 "In the fifth day of the month, which was the fifth year of king Jehoiachin's captivity, Verse 3 "The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him. Verse 4 "And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire Verse 5 "Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. Verse 6 "And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings. Verse 7 "And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass (take note of the brass). Verse 8 "And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings Verse 9 "Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward. Verse 10 "As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle. Verse 11 "Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies”
Here we see that their present is around the throne, and as Revelation 4:7 which states, their faces correspond to the same living here. the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle. BINGO, the same four living creatures.

Remember, God always warn his people before the judgments comes. As with the church then, so now with us.
With that bit of information, Now we can line up or see these four judgment clearly. Ezekiel was instructed to go to the house of Israel a rebellious house. For their rebellion, credit a warning and it was sent. We have already went over the four Judgments so there is no need to cover them again, but we might want to give a little “over all” understanding of these four judgments. we would like to give some understanding as to how the Lord deals with "HIS" church in JUDGMENTS. for some, this might be old news, with others maybe new information.

next post #2.

PICJAG.

Post #2.
these same four Judgment/horseman are also found in the book of Zechariah, let take a peek.

Zechariah 6:1 "And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass. (remember I said take note of the term BRASS).
Zechariah 6:2 "In the first chariot were red horses; and in the second chariot black horses;
Zechariah 6:3 "And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses. (meaning Pale).

So we have identified the four beast/living creatures again, and it's in the plural, horse(s)

A NOTE: did anyone pick up on the two Brass mountains?, while gleaning my notes on Revelation chapter 6, I came across this. It kept coming up over and over, I had not notice this before. Until I laid all the verses together. The feet of JESUS as “BRASS”

Ezekiel 1:7 "And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass”.

Zechariah 6:1 "And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass. two of "BRASS"

NOW THIS: Daniel 10:6 "His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude”.

AND THIS: Revelation 1:15 "And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters”.

AND THIS: Revelation 2:18 "And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass”

When something like this jump out at you, one need to take attention to it. so doing a little research I found out that it meas his feet of Brass signify “JUDGMENT”. but another interesting thing about his feet, is the word used here by John in revelation. it is G5474 χαλκολίβανον chalkolibanon (chal-ko-liy'-ɓa-non) n.
burnished copper, an alloy of copper (or gold) and silver having a brilliant lustre.
[neuter of a compound of G5475 and G3030 (in the implied mean of whiteness or brilliancy)]
KJV: fine brass

While this word origins is a enigma, but the understanding is revealing. The compound of this word is from G5475 χαλκός chalkos (chal-kos') n. meaning copper, and from G3030 λίβανος libanos (liy'-ɓa-nos) n. meaning the incense-tree (frankincence). well as a compound it makes no sense until one extract the meaning of Copper and frankincense.

His Feet as High priest signify the brazen/copper laver that was used in the temple for the washing of the High Priest hands and feet. His feet in Judgment cleanse us from all unrighteousness was by the “washing” of his word. John 15:3 "Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you”. also as the apostle Paul echos his Lord,
Ephesians 5:25 "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Ephesians 5:26 "That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Ephesians 5:27 "That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

And again, Hebrews 10:14 "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified”. hath is a past tense designation meaning it have already been done. For when he was crucified, out came water and blood. for the "washing" is of the Word of God, "THE GOSPEL".

Now the frankincence which was use by the High Priest for a sweet smell of sacrifice. Ephesians 5:1 "Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children
Ephesians 5:2 "And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour”.

Philippians 4:18 "But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God”

Genesis 8:20 "And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.
Genesis 8:21 "And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done".

So those same feet that is coming in "Judgment" is bathed in the sweet smell of frankincence that is pleasing to the LORD, which are the prayers of the saints. Revelation 5:8 "And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints”. I’m reminded of the woman who bathed our Lord Jesus feet.
Luke 7:37 "And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,
Luke 7:38 "And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment”.

Those who are in christ will not be in Judgment of condemnation, but only in correction. For some of us are living off the prayers of the saints. Be it mothers or fathers or other saints. We should pray for one another. Those in the world, the judgment of condemnation, for they have no part "in" christ. As seen with Peter, John 13:4 "He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself. verse 5 "After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded. verse 6 "Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet? verse 7 "Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter. verse 8 "Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me. verse 9 "Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head. verse 10 "Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all". (One might want to read that verse again).

so the Good news is that we're not in judgemental condemnation, but only correction if need like Peter. we the church will witness to these Judgments, but only be corrected in them.

Next time the fifth seal.

PICJAG.

GINOLJC, to all.
Revelation Chapter 6
Revelation 6:9 "And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
a “Call for Justice” in a time of GREAT TRIBULATION
as said with the previous seals 1-4 just keep one hand here on Chapter 6, and another hand on Matthews chapter 24, and the seals will be revealed, but only with the GUIDING HAND of the HOLY SPIRIT.

Here, in the opeaning of the Fifth seal, there is no beast/living creature speaking. nor any horses and their riders presented. John said he “SAW”, (TAKE NOTE). was John seeing with his actual eyes? what John saw is to be understood as that he understands the vision of event being presented to him. the Greek word here for, “saw” is G1492 εἴδω eido (ei'-d̮ō) v. which can be translated as “understand”.
1. (properly) to see (but not limited to the eye).
2. (by implication, in the perfect tense only) to personally know (i.e. to have seen or have experienced something by firsthand observation).
3. (by extension) to personally know how (to do).
4. (also) to see how (it is done).
{literally or figuratively; used only in certain past tenses, the others being borrowed from the equivalent G3700 and G3708}
[a primary verb:]
KJV: be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider, (have) know(-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wish, wot

What John understood was what he knew, (For the Lord who open the seal, Gave John this UNDERSTANDING), just as definition #2 states above. John was “aware” of or “UNDERSTOOD” the vision that was presented to him. and here it is in scripture is what he KNEW,
Matthew 23:27 "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Verse 28 "Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Verse 29 "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, Verse 30 "And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. Verse 31 "Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Verse 32 "Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Verse 33 "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?". understand that there are only two "generation" of people on this planet, the Good, and the Evil. so when God speak of a generation, or a people they are either of the Good or Evil Generation that he speak of, or to.

John knew that Jerusalem was the place where the prophets was killed, for the souls that was under the altar, (was dead men, the prophets who held the word of God) was there in Jerusalem. How did he KNOW this? because the altar of sacrifice was right here on earth where our LORD & SAVIOUR was slain, or was sacrifice at, Calvary/Golgotha, on the cross. so was the prophets before him slain there, and the martyred saint that will be after him, as was with our brother, and many more. So when John “SAW” that signified that he knew these events. now we will reveal who and what those souls are and is in verse 10 in post #2.. but first we need to identify what these souls died for.

the word of God & the testimony
the Word of God here signify the people of the OT who kept to the Torah/Law of God, and was killed for it. The Testimony, which the Saint of the NT held to or “testified” to or witnessed to is that truth of God’s Law under Grace, meaning the fulfillment of the Torah/Law. For the term “testimony” here, is the Greek word,
G3141 μαρτυρία marturia (mar-tï-riy'-a) n.
evidence given (judicially or genitive case).
[from G3144]
KJV: record, report, testimony, witness
Root(s): G3144

And the root word is G3144 μάρτυς martus (mar'-tïs) n.
1. a witness.
2. (literally) judicially.
3. (by analogy) a “martyr” (meaning witness).
{literally or figuratively (genitive case)}
[of uncertain affinity]
KJV: martyr, record, witness

So the New testament Saints testified to the Torah/Law and the Prophets who held to the Word of God even unto death, and now witness to its completion. so this scene is shown to John in heaven but is being played out on the earth. as said, under the alter are dead men, meaning under the ground or in graves. For the alter is on earth where the sacrifice was made. and there will be some more martyr or witnesses to come, which we will see in post #2.

note what the Lord Jesus said in Matthew 24:9: “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.” that word "afflicted" can be translated as "TRIBULATION". our Lord made this statement directly at us, "YOU", the SAVED, or the righteous Generation on this earth, because of “his” name sake, his WORD.

there will be some christian who will be hated, just because they are christian, and be killed just because they are christian. Sons killing fathers, and mothers, but at the name of Jesus “every” knee shall bow, and every tongue confess. John himself was in these troubling times, as well as the other apostles for the word of God. Revelation 1:9 "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ”. BINGO, there it is the Word of God/the Torah and the testimony or the “Witness” of Jesus the Christ/the Gospel.

John was in the tribulation, in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ. Meaning that he was waiting, and in the next post we will see why, and who was these souls that are crying out. So again, the bible is clear that there is no rapture of any church, or person out of this world, but we must be waiting, dead or alive.

I'm going to say something here and now. when the TERM: "GREAT TRIBULATION" is used consider this. not in as a big event, but as a "Event over a Long period of time". hopefully we can show this in the next Post.

PICJAG.

Next Post #2.