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stunnedbygrace

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That is not a Hebrew name, but an Akkadian name. According to Brown-Driver-Briggs (quoting another source) it means "Sin gave life".
"Sin" is a Mesopotamian god (the god of the moon), also known as "Nanna" in Sumerian. Check Britannica.

Yes, thanks, I saw that. I also saw in blueletterbible they say it means strength. And read elsewhere that it meant sin is vivified.

I guess I will have to learn Hebrew if I want to have the name broken down!
 

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Read Job 40 and 41. It is the only place I know of that describes them to a 't'.

Still what verse has that ballet in the sand word?

I found this: and it means "enemy in secret."

Topical Bible: Sanballat


Thank you for sharing. All the links you provided helped greatly. Still finding connection to the topic of thread to the bramble and open the doors of Lebanon and let the fire devour the trees of Lebanon. “ENTER into the rock” Isaiah 2:10-13,17-18 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty. [11] The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day. [12] For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: [13] And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, [17] And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day. [18] And the idols he shall utterly abolish.

then your link in Job: (don’t know why it is all underlined)Pour forth the overflowings of thine anger; And look upon every one that is proud, and abase him. 12 Look on every one that is proud, [and] bring him low; And tread down the wicked where they stand. 13 Hide them in the dust together; Bind their faces in the hidden [place]. 14 Then will I also confess of thee That thine own right hand can save thee.

Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty.
Hide them in the dust together; Bind their faces in the hidden [place].

"enemy in secret."
 
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That is not a Hebrew name, but an Akkadian name. According to Brown-Driver-Briggs (quoting another source) it means "Sin gave life".
"Sin" is a Mesopotamian god (the god of the moon), also known as "Nanna" in Sumerian. Check Britannica.
Interesting how the Moon God 'Sin' and Bramble Bush connect in Scripture...

Luke 6:44
"For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes"


This 'Moon God' theme may even apply to this verse...

Revelation 12:1
"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars"


The Woman has Dominion over the Moon God 'Sin'. In other words, Sin has been conquered.
 

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I'm going off on a tangent here, but I wanted to share this slide I made a few years ago regarding Thorns...

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Doing ballet in the sand? :D Lol...nope, no idea here.


Deuteronomy 33:19 They shall call the people unto the mountain; there they shall offer sacrifices of righteousness: for they shall suck of the abundance of the seas, and of treasures hid in the sand.
 

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Thank you for sharing. All the links you provided helped greatly. Still finding connection to the topic of thread to the bramble and open the doors of Lebanon and let the fire devour the trees of Lebanon. “ENTER into the rock” Isaiah 2:10-13,17-18 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty. [11] The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day. [12] For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: [13] And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, [17] And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day. [18] And the idols he shall utterly abolish.

then your link in Job: (don’t know why it is all underlined)Pour forth the overflowings of thine anger; And look upon every one that is proud, and abase him. 12 Look on every one that is proud, [and] bring him low; And tread down the wicked where they stand. 13 Hide them in the dust together; Bind their faces in the hidden [place]. 14 Then will I also confess of thee That thine own right hand can save thee.

Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty.
Hide them in the dust together; Bind their faces in the hidden [place].

"enemy in secret."

there is a promise there. If we will acknowledge it. Why does it connect as a scarlet thread to “thorns” which they placed upon his head in mocking and “he who is lifted up will be abased, and he who is low shall be exalted” Paul said he knew how to be both abased and abounding. How does it connect to Job and God saying do all this and then say your right hand can save you.

“Hide them in the dust together; Bind their faces in the hidden (place).” Isaiah 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Luke 2:34-35 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against; [35] (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.
The promise is: Isaiah 45:3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

1 Corinthians 14:24-25 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: [25] And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest;(brought to light) (the treasures of darkness, hidden riches of secret places) and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is IN YOU of a truth.

which goes back to “treasure hid in the sand”.
 
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Why does it connect as a scarlet thread to “thorns” which they placed upon his head in mocking...
The Thorns in the Crown were twisted together to form a shape that looks just like Human DNA...

John 19:2 (NIV)
"The soldiers twisted together a crown of thorns and put it on his head. They clothed him in a purple robe"


Hint.. hint...
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Elsewhere, as I said, some said it could mean strength, which would also read interestingly of this unholy trio...strength (of man/opposition), but God is good, and sends violent showers.

So, it's not extremely important I guess, but very interesting to me that their names seem to tell a story of what God will do...:)
 

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So, it's not extremely important I guess, but very interesting to me.
While the name of Sanballat may be interesting, the spiritual significance of Sanballat -- and the Sanballats of today -- should be of concern to Christians. They represent the enemies of God's people, hence they are emissaries and minions of Satan.

THEY HATE GOD'S PEOPLE
When Sanballat the Horonite, and Tobiah the servant, the Ammonite, heard of it, it grieved them exceedingly that there was come a man to seek the welfare of the children of Israel. (Neh 2:10)

THEY MOCK AND DESPISE GOD'S PEOPLE
But when Sanballat the Horonite, and Tobiah the servant, the Ammonite, and Geshem the Arabian, heard it, they laughed us to scorn, and despised us, and said, What is this thing that ye do? will ye rebel against the king? (Neh 2:19)

THEY ARE WRATHFUL AGAINST GOD'S PEOPLE
But it came to pass, that when Sanballat heard that we builded the wall, he was wroth, and took great indignation, and mocked the Jews. And he spake before his brethren and the army of Samaria, and said, What do these feeble Jews? will they fortify themselves? will they sacrifice? will they make an end in a day? will they revive the stones out of the heaps of the rubbish which are burned? (Neh 4:1,2)

THEY CONSPIRE AGAINST GOD'S PEOPLE TO HINDER THEM

But it came to pass, that when Sanballat, and Tobiah, and the Arabians, and the Ammonites, and the Ashdodites, heard that the walls of Jerusalem were made up, and that the breaches began to be stopped, then they were very wroth, And conspired all of them together to come and to fight against Jerusalem, and to hinder it. (Neh 4:7,8)

The Communists, the so-called Socialists, as well as the so-called Progressives and Left-liberals are the Sanballats of today all over the world, including America and Canada.
 
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Sanballat, I believe, is of Persian origin. We would have to look up his name according to his own language. Someone has guessed,

In Hebrew the name is Sanballat (Hebrew: סַנְבַלָּט‎). Eberhard Schrader, cited in Brown–Driver–Briggs, considered that the name in Akkadian was Sīnuballit, from the name of the Sumerian moon god Sīn meaning "Sīn has begotten."

Which would also fit in with the names of those 3 men telling what was happening - sin has come to life, God is good, strong showers.
 
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I kind of have to chuckle that every definition of sanballats name that men have come up with fits...
 

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While the name of Sanballat may be interesting, the spiritual significance of Sanballat -- and the Sanballats of today -- should be of concern to Christians. They represent the enemies of God's people, hence they are emissaries and minions of Satan.

1 Corinthians 4:5 Lexicon: Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men's hearts; and then each man's praise will come to him from God.

enemies of God yet Paul pointed out we all were once enemies. He is a God of bringing things hidden in secret out into the light referring to it as hidden treasure and “praise will come to him from God.”
—-1 Corinthians 14:25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.

John 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Matthew 10:26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed (brought into the light); and hid, that shall not be known.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
 
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I guess my question could only be answered by someone who physically has one of those huge exhaustive concordances before them and could tell me what the indented part above a the Sanballat definition means...

I think they have not read it properly because it seems they just picked the word above Sanballat to come up with bramble Bush. Doesn't make sense to me why they have done that...
Hebrew: סנבלּט
Transliteration: sanballaţ
Pronunciation: san-bal-lat'
Definition: Of foreign origin;
{Sanballat} a Persian satrap of Samaria: - Sanballat.
KJV Usage: Sanballat (10x).
Occurs: 10
In verses: 10
 

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Satraps were local rulers appointed by the king to govern individual provinces. Their job was to enforce law and order, and to collect taxes and tributes. They worked with Persia's army commanders to defend the empire's frontiers from enemy attack.
 
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...And conspired all of them together to come and to fight against Jerusalem, and to hinder it. (Neh 4:7,8)

I wonder if those that tried to warn others of the Conspiracy were labeled as 'Conspiracy Theorists'.

:D
 

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The Communists, the so-called Socialists, as well as the so-called Progressives and Left-liberals are the Sanballats of today all over the world, including America and Canada.
Like Thorns in the side.
 
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My God, think thou upon Tobiah and Sanballat according to these their works, and on the prophetess Noadiah, and the rest of the prophets, that would have put me in fear. - Nehemiah 6:14

To me the spiritual Sanballat, Tobiah, or Noadiah are people working against a move of God.