Hi Vickie , there are many who call themselves Dispensationalists .1) Some say that they are Acts 2 , but to me , they are NOT Dispensationalists at all , why ? 2) There is not A Dispensation of the Holy Spirit so-called , or the Dispensation of Pentecost . Eph 3:2 , it is . 3) Under the Dispensation of the Mosiac Law , we know what the RULES were . 613 Law , that govered Isreal .4) The Greek word OIKONOMIA , is a Greek compound word that means HOUSE - LAW .5) It DOES not mean management , economy, dispensing , or administration, it means HOUSE RULES, so what are the house rules ? 6) Security of the believer .7) Election .8) walk by faith .9) A new nature .10) Indwelling of the Father , of the Son and the Holy Spirit .11) Justification .12) Propitiation .13) Redemption .14) Departure of the Body of Christ , 2 Thess 2:3 , falling away , means Departure and NOT Apostasy , for Apostassia is not a translated word , but a transliterated word instead .15) I know that I don't have them all down , but there is one ONLY that I have seen found in Paul'e letters , and that is SANCTIFICATION , BECAUSE IT TALKS , about being saved drom sin --- saved in our daily walk ------Then one day saved from the very presence of Sin
What Means Oikonomia ?
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QUOTE (dan p @ Mar 30 2009, 05:51 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71448
Hi Vickie , there are many who call themselves Dispensationalists .1) Some say that they are Acts 2 , but to me , they are NOT Dispensationalists at all , why ? 2) There is not A Dispensation of the Holy Spirit so-called , or the Dispensation of Pentecost . Eph 3:2 , it is . 3) Under the Dispensation of the Mosiac Law , we know what the RULES were . 613 Law , that govered Isreal .4) The Greek word OIKONOMIA , is a Greek compound word that means HOUSE - LAW .5) It DOES not mean management , economy, dispensing , or administration, it means HOUSE RULES, so what are the house rules ?
Hello, we all have been taught and have different opinions on many things. I am not into trying to convict people of believing my way. I am on my journey alone, with fellowship with the family of God who all have many different understanding in some areas, but that is notan issue and shouldn't be for me or any of us. Thanks for sharing your view. Vickie
Hi Vickie , there are many who call themselves Dispensationalists .1) Some say that they are Acts 2 , but to me , they are NOT Dispensationalists at all , why ? 2) There is not A Dispensation of the Holy Spirit so-called , or the Dispensation of Pentecost . Eph 3:2 , it is . 3) Under the Dispensation of the Mosiac Law , we know what the RULES were . 613 Law , that govered Isreal .4) The Greek word OIKONOMIA , is a Greek compound word that means HOUSE - LAW .5) It DOES not mean management , economy, dispensing , or administration, it means HOUSE RULES, so what are the house rules ?
Hello, we all have been taught and have different opinions on many things. I am not into trying to convict people of believing my way. I am on my journey alone, with fellowship with the family of God who all have many different understanding in some areas, but that is notan issue and shouldn't be for me or any of us. Thanks for sharing your view. Vickie
QUOTE (dan p @ Mar 31 2009, 12:51 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71448
Hi Vickie , there are many who call themselves Dispensationalists .1) Some say that they are Acts 2 , but to me , they are NOT Dispensationalists at all , why ? 2) There is not A Dispensation of the Holy Spirit so-called , or the Dispensation of Pentecost . Eph 3:2 , it is . 3) Under the Dispensation of the Mosiac Law , we know what the RULES were . 613 Law , that govered Isreal .4) The Greek word OIKONOMIA , is a Greek compound word that means HOUSE - LAW .5) It DOES not mean management , economy, dispensing , or administration, it means HOUSE RULES, so what are the house rules ? 6) Security of the believer .7) Election .8) walk by faith .9) A new nature .10) Indwelling of the Father , of the Son and the Holy Spirit .11) Justification .12) Propitiation .13) Redemption .14) Departure of the Body of Christ , 2 Thess 2:3 , falling away , means Departure and NOT Apostasy , for Apostassia is not a translated word , but a transliterated word instead .15) I know that I don't have them all down , but there is one ONLY that I have seen found in Paul'e letters , and that is SANCTIFICATION , BECAUSE IT TALKS , about being saved drom sin --- saved in our daily walk ------Then one day saved from the very presence of Sin
I do not get the reason of all your postings. Are you a student of some kind? It seems like all your subject are chosen to bring controversy and confusion.
Hi Vickie , there are many who call themselves Dispensationalists .1) Some say that they are Acts 2 , but to me , they are NOT Dispensationalists at all , why ? 2) There is not A Dispensation of the Holy Spirit so-called , or the Dispensation of Pentecost . Eph 3:2 , it is . 3) Under the Dispensation of the Mosiac Law , we know what the RULES were . 613 Law , that govered Isreal .4) The Greek word OIKONOMIA , is a Greek compound word that means HOUSE - LAW .5) It DOES not mean management , economy, dispensing , or administration, it means HOUSE RULES, so what are the house rules ? 6) Security of the believer .7) Election .8) walk by faith .9) A new nature .10) Indwelling of the Father , of the Son and the Holy Spirit .11) Justification .12) Propitiation .13) Redemption .14) Departure of the Body of Christ , 2 Thess 2:3 , falling away , means Departure and NOT Apostasy , for Apostassia is not a translated word , but a transliterated word instead .15) I know that I don't have them all down , but there is one ONLY that I have seen found in Paul'e letters , and that is SANCTIFICATION , BECAUSE IT TALKS , about being saved drom sin --- saved in our daily walk ------Then one day saved from the very presence of Sin
I do not get the reason of all your postings. Are you a student of some kind? It seems like all your subject are chosen to bring controversy and confusion.
QUOTE (bethog @ Apr 1 2009, 06:12 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71565
I do not get the reason of all your postings. Are you a student of some kind? It seems like all your subject are chosen to bring controversy and confusion.
Hi bethog, Like 2 Peter 3:16 says about Paul , somethings are hard to understand , because Paul has NEW Dispensational message and like Peter you will always say , dan p , I don't understand what you mean . You all have to study what Paul is saying Dispensationally to understand him .
I do not get the reason of all your postings. Are you a student of some kind? It seems like all your subject are chosen to bring controversy and confusion.
Hi bethog, Like 2 Peter 3:16 says about Paul , somethings are hard to understand , because Paul has NEW Dispensational message and like Peter you will always say , dan p , I don't understand what you mean . You all have to study what Paul is saying Dispensationally to understand him .
QUOTE (dan p @ Apr 2 2009, 02:19 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71579
Hi bethog, Like 2 Peter 3:16 says about Paul , somethings are hard to understand , because Paul has NEW Dispensational message and like Peter you will always say , dan p , I don't understand what you mean . You all have to study what Paul is saying Dispensationally to understand him .
I see that you take verses out of context and try to build a doctrine on it. Let us look at the Scripture in context.2 Peter 3:14-18 (New King James Version)14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
Hi bethog, Like 2 Peter 3:16 says about Paul , somethings are hard to understand , because Paul has NEW Dispensational message and like Peter you will always say , dan p , I don't understand what you mean . You all have to study what Paul is saying Dispensationally to understand him .
I see that you take verses out of context and try to build a doctrine on it. Let us look at the Scripture in context.2 Peter 3:14-18 (New King James Version)14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
QUOTE (bethog @ Apr 1 2009, 07:30 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=71583
I see that you take verses out of context and try to build a doctrine on it. Let us look at the Scripture in context.2 Peter 3:14-18 (New King James Version)14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
I love that verse of Peter speaking about Paul's writings. It is true and we see the many doctrines that have risen from his writings. Vickie
I see that you take verses out of context and try to build a doctrine on it. Let us look at the Scripture in context.2 Peter 3:14-18 (New King James Version)14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.
I love that verse of Peter speaking about Paul's writings. It is true and we see the many doctrines that have risen from his writings. Vickie
QUOTE (Vickie @ Apr 11 2009, 11:04 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72397
I love that verse of Peter speaking about Paul's writings. It is true and we see the many doctrines that have risen from his writings. Vickie
1) Hi Vickie , and that was why had to take Paul to the Desert , and instruction of 3 years , Gal 1:17-18 . 2) Why 3 years ? 3) Paul had to Un-learn --------------------------------------------------------------Had to learn --------------------------------1) Had to un-learn that there was more than 1 God----------------------------Had to learn the Truine God--------2) Un-learn Judaism ----------------------------------------------------------------Began the Body of Christ 1 Tim 1:15-16 ; Rom 1:1 , and Learn what 1 Cor 15:8 really means ------------------------------------------------------------------3) Knew only Water Baptism ----------------------------------------------In 1 Cor 1:17 , had to explain , why he could not Baptize Gentiles and there is only one Baptism in Eph 4:3-6 and it is the Holy Spirit in 1 Cor 12:13 .4) Knew only why Israel had to keep the Law-----------------------------------Had to write in his letters why the Law was nailed to the Cross Col 2:14-17 .5) Knew that the New Covenant was for Israel -------------------------------Shows that the New Covenant was NOT for the Body of Christ , but for Israel Heb 8:8 6) And you know , as Peter could not understand Paul , the reason that they don't TODAY , is because they are not Dispensationalist like Paul , in 1 Cor 9: 16-18 . 7) These are just a few of Them .
I love that verse of Peter speaking about Paul's writings. It is true and we see the many doctrines that have risen from his writings. Vickie
1) Hi Vickie , and that was why had to take Paul to the Desert , and instruction of 3 years , Gal 1:17-18 . 2) Why 3 years ? 3) Paul had to Un-learn --------------------------------------------------------------Had to learn --------------------------------1) Had to un-learn that there was more than 1 God----------------------------Had to learn the Truine God--------2) Un-learn Judaism ----------------------------------------------------------------Began the Body of Christ 1 Tim 1:15-16 ; Rom 1:1 , and Learn what 1 Cor 15:8 really means ------------------------------------------------------------------3) Knew only Water Baptism ----------------------------------------------In 1 Cor 1:17 , had to explain , why he could not Baptize Gentiles and there is only one Baptism in Eph 4:3-6 and it is the Holy Spirit in 1 Cor 12:13 .4) Knew only why Israel had to keep the Law-----------------------------------Had to write in his letters why the Law was nailed to the Cross Col 2:14-17 .5) Knew that the New Covenant was for Israel -------------------------------Shows that the New Covenant was NOT for the Body of Christ , but for Israel Heb 8:8 6) And you know , as Peter could not understand Paul , the reason that they don't TODAY , is because they are not Dispensationalist like Paul , in 1 Cor 9: 16-18 . 7) These are just a few of Them .
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