2 Kinds of Inheritances for Believers

ScottA · Feb 12, 2020

Enow said:
In context of the Book of Galatians, the Gentiles were becoming identified with Judaism in the observances of those days thereof.

Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

This has nothing to do with what Jesus said for being aware of as for the signs of the times when His coming is near.

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

So no man may know the day nor the hour, but we may know in the latter days before His coming when that is near. Reading that the tribulations of our times is described in Matthew 24:23-28 as 29 signify that as the tribulation of our days; it is afterwards that the heavens will be shaken at the coming of the Son of Man. I apply Matthew 24:23-28 towards all those apostate "movement of the spirit" like the Pensacola Outpouring, the Toronto's Blessings, the "holy laughter" movement, Ernest Angeley's Healing Crusade, the restoration movement in the UK, and etc.

Signs of the times for why the times of the Gentiles will come to an end for when the despensation of the gospel will go back to the Jews, the 144,000 witnesses, after the pre-great tribulation rapture event for the duration of the coming great tribulation.

I cannot say the day nor the hour, but I can say by the signs of the times, the Bridegroom is coming soon. So be ready by looking to the author & finisher of our faith to discern and depart from iniquity in helping us lay aside every weight & sin to be accepted by Him for why we labour in order to escape what is coming on the earth.

And Jesus has given enough warnings to believers ( Luke 12:40-49 & Luke 21:33-36 ) as Peter did also ( 2 Peter 3:3-15 ) and Paul for not running that race by faith in Him ( Hebrews 12:1-2 ) & the consequence is mentioned in 1 Corinthians 9:24-27. Not sure how you can not apply them for now.

You are missing the point.

Your whole premise and apparently theology, is based on the times of men and of the world, rather than on the kingdom. Such a path is darkness. And we are not to hear the words as they are written, but we are to hear what the Spirit says. It is a most common mistake.

On the contrary, I was trying to help you out of that darkness. But you have your anchors set in that same darkness, and return to them whenever I offer to shed light on the problem.

Remember: "There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death."

Ezra · Feb 12, 2020

Enow said:
Also, there is a consequence given for defiling the temple of God which is physical death in context of that passage. So the wood, stubble, and hay are works of iniquity that the believer did not depart from at the time God judges His House which I believe tales place when the Bridegroom comes. Those cut off, reprobates disqualified from attending the Marriage Supper, becomes vessels unto dishonor that are in His House, because that foundation remains and the seal also to testify to the power of God in salvation for those who believe in Him, even for those that believe in His name.

1 Corinthians 3:15 and 2 Timothy 2:20 & John 6:39 testifies to how and why there are still vessels unto dishonor in that great house.

possible your welcome to your interruption there is no doubt in consequence given for defiling the temple of God which is physical death . the rest i dont agree with you on that is being related to 1 cor 3 judgment of works

Ezra · Feb 12, 2020

Enow said:
I cannot say the day nor the hour, but I can say by the signs of the times, the Bridegroom is coming soon. So be ready by looking to the author & finisher of our faith to discern and depart from iniquity in helping us lay aside every weight & sin to be accepted by Him for why we labour in order to escape what is coming on the earth.

full agreement on this

Enow · Feb 13, 2020

DNB said:
I should've specified, i was specifically referring to the case above. They had faith at one point, but incontrovertibly, lost it.

Matthew 13:20-21
13:20. "The one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21. yet he has no firm root in himself, but is only temporary, and when affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he falls away.

Mark 4:15-17
4:15. "These are the ones who are beside the road where the word is sown; and when they hear, immediately Satan comes and takes away the word which has been sown in them. 16. "In a similar way these are the ones on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, who, when they hear the word, immediately receive it with joy; 17. and they have no firm root in themselves, but are only temporary; then, when affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately they fall away.

Luke 8:13
8:13. "Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away.

I can understand why you would think that from reading Mark 4:15-17 but here it is in the KJV.

Mark 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts. 16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness; 17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended. KJV

I believe the "likewise" is about "which are sown the seed, because the "who" after the bold is to "these are they". I do not believe likewise is conveying the same fate as those in verse 15. If we compare the following verse, we see no such thing in regard to their fate if we follow your application.

Mark 4:18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word, 19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful. KJV

No "likewise" or "in a similar way" here ( course, I do not know what Bible version you are using to check that, but in the KJV above; nothing.

So I see "likewise" is towards seeds that were sown as being on stony ground for that next group being believers that did not grow in His words to have roots to abide in His to grow as His disciples as opposed to the former group that was about unbelievers only.

Once the seed ( Jesus Christ ) has been received, they are saved, but not every believer will grow in the Word to not be offended and fall away in becoming former believers and not every believer will grow in the word to apply His words to their lives for that to be fruitful because the cares of this life takes their eyes off of relying on Him for everything, but some believers will grow in His words to apply His words in being reliant on the Lord Jesus Christ for everything in being His disciples to be fruitful and that their joy may be full.

But, yeah, I can see how reading your Bible version, you would think no one was saved but that last group on good soil, but then it is a matter of growing in His words and applying His words with His help is how any saved believer will find himself or herself on good soil. Discipleship can come to any saved believer to have that good soil, but that is about discipleship in living that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ; it is not about obatining that reconciled relationship with Jesus Christ when they are saved so they can live that life with Him.

It is like ... a woman marries a man and yet lives apart from him in not getting to know him nor the benefits of being married to him, even though she had received him. I am sure there are a lot of believers that have been saved, but left alone, with no one to disciple them, some may be led astray by the evolution theory to take offense to the Bible or some will put their relationship with the Lord on a shelf somewhere while they live their lives in the world for which they are overcome with, in not bearing any fruit in their walk with the Lord thru this valley of death.

Anyway, that is the truth that I see in His words for why I see it in this way still, thanks to Jesus Christ.

Enow · Feb 13, 2020

Ezra said:
possible your welcome to your interruption there is no doubt in consequence given for defiling the temple of God which is physical death

God did warn the church at Thyatira of that consequence in Revelations 2:18-23 even though He recognized them as His and even acknowledged some of the good works in her as well.

. the rest i dont agree with you on that is being related to 1 cor 3 judgment of works

Well, then help me to understand your reading of 1 Corinthians 3:10-17 in how you apply it.

If the foundation laid is credited to Jesus Christ in 1 Corinthians 3:11, then it is unremovable along with that seal as testified as such in 2 Timothy 2:19 We are even warned not to grieve the Holy Spirit because we are sealed with Him unto that day of redemption ( Ephesians 4:30 )

That means regardless of what is being judged on that foundation, that foundation remains does it not?

If not, then how can the spirit still be saved after going thru the fire in verse 15, even though the body is being destroyed in verses 16-17 for defiling? Does this not tetsify that the wood, stubble, and hay defiles the temple of God for why that body is being destroyed and yet that spirit is still saved because that foundation remains?

Would it not explain why there are vessels unto dishonor still in His House?

Nobody can become unsaved because that would put Christ to open shame in order to save him again. To any that have gone astray, we do not preach the gospel to them again because they already know it; but we go to the scripture to reprove the lies or expose the sin that led them astray with a warning that they are in danger of becoming disqualified from the Marriage Supper as in left behind when the Bridegroom comes unless they look to Jesus for help to help them see their error as well as help to depart from their iniquity before the Bridegroom comes..

DNB · Feb 13, 2020

Enow said:
I can understand why you would think that from reading Mark 4:15-17 but here it is in the KJV.

Mark 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts. 16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness; 17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended. KJV

I believe the "likewise" is about "which are sown the seed, because the "who" after the bold is to "these are they". I do not believe likewise is conveying the same fate as those in verse 15. If we compare the following verse, we see no such thing in regard to their fate if we follow your application.

Mark 4:18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word, 19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful. KJV

No "likewise" or "in a similar way" here ( course, I do not know what Bible version you are using to check that, but in the KJV above; nothing.

So I see "likewise" is towards seeds that were sown as being on stony ground for that next group being believers that did not grow in His words to have roots to abide in His to grow as His disciples as opposed to the former group that was about unbelievers only.

Once the seed ( Jesus Christ ) has been received, they are saved, but not every believer will grow in the Word to not be offended and fall away in becoming former believers and not every believer will grow in the word to apply His words to their lives for that to be fruitful because the cares of this life takes their eyes off of relying on Him for everything, but some believers will grow in His words to apply His words in being reliant on the Lord Jesus Christ for everything in being His disciples to be fruitful and that their joy may be full.

But, yeah, I can see how reading your Bible version, you would think no one was saved but that last group on good soil, but then it is a matter of growing in His words and applying His words with His help is how any saved believer will find himself or herself on good soil. Discipleship can come to any saved believer to have that good soil, but that is about discipleship in living that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ; it is not about obatining that reconciled relationship with Jesus Christ when they are saved so they can live that life with Him.

It is like ... a woman marries a man and yet lives apart from him in not getting to know him nor the benefits of being married to him, even though she had received him. I am sure there are a lot of believers that have been saved, but left alone, with no one to disciple them, some may be led astray by the evolution theory to take offense to the Bible or some will put their relationship with the Lord on a shelf somewhere while they live their lives in the world for which they are overcome with, in not bearing any fruit in their walk with the Lord thru this valley of death.

Anyway, that is the truth that I see in His words for why I see it in this way still, thanks to Jesus Christ.

Hi Enow, thanks for your explanation.
Just to summarize, I see 4 groups, the first two are unsaved, the third is saved but unfruitful, the fourth is both saved & fruitful.
And just for the record, I equate the first two because of the word 'likewise' that relates them, for, as you stated, it does not continue for the last two. Thus, creating a dichotomy or grouping between them i.e, 2 saved & 2 unsaved
But, the specific distinctions are, more correctly, in four parts, which is why Jesus portrayed it as such.
1. Unsaved, and never saved
2. Saved for a short time, then fell from grace to become unsaved.
3. Saved, but distracted by wordly attractions, and thus fruitless (minimal rewards)
4. Saved, and a powerful and resolute testimony to Christ

Enow · Feb 13, 2020

DNB said:
Hi Enow, thanks for your explanation.
Just to summarize, I see 4 groups, the first two are unsaved, the third is saved but unfruitful, the fourth is both saved & fruitful.
And just for the record, I equate the first two because of the word 'likewise' that relates them, for, as you stated, it does not continue for the last two. Thus, creating a dichotomy or grouping between them i.e, 2 saved & 2 unsaved
But, the specific distinctions are, more correctly, in four parts, which is why Jesus portrayed it as such.
1. Unsaved, and never saved
2. Saved for a short time, then fell from grace to become unsaved.
3. Saved, but distracted by wordly attractions, and thus fruitless (minimal rewards)
4. Saved, and a powerful and resolute testimony to Christ

Thank you for sharing. mayhap as we go along, the Lord will continue to help us see the truth in His words on this discussion.

Addressing #2, how then can these verses apply?

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

How to align His words here when He will not cast out all the Father has given Him and that He shall lose nothing, but yet we have verses where He cuts them off from the vine and believers become former believers?

So I align His words in that they can be cut off from having that first inheritance in the city of God above, but still in His kingdom as resurrected after the great tribulation to serve Him as the King of kings during the millennium reign of Christ; hence the vessel of wood and earth.

Can you see that in the prophesy about the New Covenant in Psalm 89?

Psalm 89:26 He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation. 27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. 28 My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and my covenant shall stand fast with him. 29 His seed also will I make to endure for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven. 30 If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments; 31 If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; 32 Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. 33 Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail. 34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. 35 Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David. 36 His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as the sun before me. 37 It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven. Selah.

Do you see the stripes on His servants that got cut off with the unbelievers in Luke 12:40-49? The above testimony from God is they are still saved. It would explain why they are still called servants for why they are receiving stripes for not being ready.

Luke 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. 41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? 42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. 45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. 49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

Ezra · Feb 13, 2020

Enow said:
That means regardless of what is being judged on that foundation, that foundation remains does it not?

If not, then how can the spirit still be saved after going thru the fire in verse 15, even though the body is being destroyed in verses 16-17 for defiling? Does this not tetsify that the wood, stubble, and hay defiles the temple of God for why that body is being destroyed and yet that spirit is still saved because that foundation remains?

i have done given my stance on the awards /bema seat judgment

Enow · Feb 13, 2020

Ezra said:
i have done given my stance on the awards /bema seat judgment

Well, whenever you have the patience again to walk me through it, feel free to come back to the conversation. Thanks for sharing earlier.

DNB · Feb 13, 2020

Enow said:
Thank you for sharing. mayhap as we go along, the Lord will continue to help us see the truth in His words on this discussion.

Addressing #2, how then can these verses apply?

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

How to align His words here when He will not cast out all the Father has given Him and that He shall lose nothing, but yet we have verses where He cuts them off from the vine and believers become former believers?

So I align His words in that they can be cut off from having that first inheritance in the city of God above, but still in His kingdom as resurrected after the great tribulation to serve Him as the King of kings during the millennium reign of Christ; hence the vessel of wood and earth.

Can you see that in the prophesy about the New Covenant in Psalm 89?

Psalm 89:26 He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation. 27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. 28 My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and my covenant shall stand fast with him. 29 His seed also will I make to endure for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven. 30 If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments; 31 If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; 32 Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. 33 Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail. 34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. 35 Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David. 36 His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as the sun before me. 37 It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven. Selah.

Do you see the stripes on His servants that got cut off with the unbelievers in Luke 12:40-49? The above testimony from God is they are still saved. It would explain why they are still called servants for why they are receiving stripes for not being ready.

Luke 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. 41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? 42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. 45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. 49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

Hi Enow, no, i don't see the passages in the same way that you do.
Psalms is talking about the Davidic Covenant, some will be cut-out of it, but the promise, for the sake of David, will still hold. His Son will sit on the throne forever, reigning over the believers.
John makes the distinction of those who believe. Some will unto life, some won't unto death.
Luke did specify that some will be cut asunder and labeled unbeliever.
But, like the parable of the sower, there are few different types of believers here. But, not 'unbelievers'. There are different levels of faith, and different levels of productive Christians and rewards. That's fine, but what you define as still saved (in earlier posts), to me, is incorrect.

Ezra · Feb 13, 2020

Enow said:
Well, whenever you have the patience again to walk me through it, feel free to come back to the conversation. Thanks for sharing earlier.

tell ya what if you have the patience go back through the post you will find it

Enow · Feb 13, 2020

Ezra said:
tell ya what if you have the patience go back through the post you will find it

Second reply post # 32

1 cor 3 is the judgment seat of works of what we have built with . it is for the christians wood gay stubble works will not stand the test of fire. Gold silver precious stones have already been tested by fire . they pass the test.. this is not a judgment of salvation . the judgment at the white throne is for the lost cast-away. - This word ( ἀδόκιμος adokimos) is taken from “bad metals” and properly denotes those which will not bear the “test” that is applied to them; that are found to be base and worthless, and are therefore rejected and cast away. they never was saved

What verse did you get "( ἀδόκιμος adokimos)" from?

I need you to walk it through 1 Corinthians 3:10-17.

1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

I take verse 11 that the foundation laid by Jesus Christ is not being judged but what is on that foundation that will be judged.

14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

Now the next verse speaks of the one that has only wood and stubble and hay on.

15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

So that means the wood and stubble and hay are iniquities that had defiled the temple of God which will be destroyed by physical death.

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Revelation 2:18-23 cite a church being cast into the bed of the great tribulation for not departing from iniquity, just as Jesus spoke of believers being cut off to have their portion with the unbelievers when the fire He sends is coming on the earth in Luke 12:40-49, but they are still called servants for how they shall receive stripes per the measure of the knowledge for not being ready; hence still saved as their spirits are with God.

Now how can you apply what you say when verse 15 testifies they are saved in spite of the loss on that foundation?

Ezra · Feb 13, 2020

Enow said:
Second reply post # 32

What verse did you get "( ἀδόκιμος adokimos)" from?

I need you to walk it through 1 Corinthians 3:10-17.

1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

I take verse 11 that the foundation laid by Jesus Christ is not being judged but what is on that foundation that will be judged.

14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

Now the next verse speaks of the one that has only wood and stubble and hay on.

15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

So that means the wood and stubble and hay are iniquities that had defiled the temple of God which will be destroyed by physical death.

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Revelation 2:18-23 cite a church being cast into the bed of the great tribulation for not departing from iniquity, just as Jesus spoke of believers being cut off to have their portion with the unbelievers when the fire He sends is coming on the earth in Luke 12:40-49, but they are still called servants for how they shall receive stripes per the measure of the knowledge for not being ready; hence still saved as their spirits are with God.

Now how can you apply what you say when verse 15 testifies they are saved in spite of the loss on that foundation?

sorry but no need i stand on the judgement of works 1 cor 3 proper context. have a good night

Enow · Feb 13, 2020

Ezra said:
sorry but no need i stand on the judgement of works 1 cor 3 proper context. have a good night

Okay. I can accept we agree to disagree. Have a good night, brother.

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