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It is Israel those twelve tribes who are returning to ISrael, do you know ISrael has blossomed.

There were TWO houses Judah AND Israel,why do people ignore that fact...The two houses won't be joined back until after the millennium..

People keep saying Israel,where the heck is Judah????????
 

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There were TWO houses Judah AND Israel,why do people ignore that fact...The two houses won't be joined back until after the millennium..

People keep saying Israel,where the heck is Judah????????
go argue with God.....

  1. Reuben.
  2. Simeon.
  3. Levi.
  4. Judah.
  5. Dan.
  6. Naphtali.
  7. Gad.
  8. Asher.
  9. Issachar.
  10. Zebulun.
  11. Joseph.
  12. Benjamin.
Current Israel is Judah and Benjamin, but the rest will returrn
 
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Let me help you out

The history of Israel and Judah
The 12 tribes of Israel descended from the patriarch Jacob, who was renamed Israel by God. One of the prominent tribes throughout the years was Judah.

All 12 tribes of Israel were united under the leadership of Moses and Joshua, but the history during the time of the judges was more complicated. It seems most Israelites were more focused on local concerns. The book of Judges ends with, “In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes” (Judges 21:25).

This changed when the people of Israel demanded a king like the nations around them. God allowed this, and Saul became the first king of all 12 tribes of Israel.

King Saul’s sins disqualified his family from a continuing dynasty. God chose David, from the tribe of Judah, to be the next king. But the transition would not be a smooth one.

The first short split between Israel and Judah
At Saul’s death, the tribe of Judah made David their king, but the other tribes of Israel followed Saul’s son Ishbosheth. This led to war between Judah and the rest of Israel. “Now there was a long war between the house of Saul [leading Israel] and the house of David [leading Judah]. But David grew stronger and stronger, and the house of Saul grew weaker and weaker” (2 Samuel 3:1).

King David worked hard to reunite all 12 tribes of Israel, and after seven years and six months he was welcomed as king of “all Israel and Judah” (2 Samuel 5:5).

His son Solomon also reigned over Israel and Judah together. Though he started well, Solomon disobeyed God and sowed the seeds of the future split of his kingdom.

God chose one of Solomon’s servants to lead the northern tribes of Israel after Solomon. Here’s what God told Jeroboam about why the split between Israel and Judah was coming:

“Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel: ‘Behold, I will tear the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon and will give ten tribes to you (but he shall have one tribe for the sake of My servant David, and for the sake of Jerusalem, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel), because they have forsaken Me, and worshiped Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, Chemosh the god of the Moabites, and Milcom the god of the people of Ammon, and have not walked in My ways to do what is right in My eyes and keep My statutes and My judgments, as did his father David” (1 Kings 11:31-33).

When did Israel and Judah split?
Solomon died around 930 B.C., and soon after the northern 10 tribes sent a delegation to Rehoboam, his son, to ask for relief from the heavy burden of taxes they had been carrying.

But Rehoboam took bad advice and threatened to raise taxes instead. This led to the split that God had predicted.

So why did Israel and Judah split? The immediate argument was over taxation, but God’s prophecy makes clear the real problem was sin.

Jeroboam and Rehoboam
After the split, Rehoboam became king of the southern kingdom of Judah. The kingdom of Judah was comprised of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin and much of the tribe of Levi, the tribe that served at the temple.

Jeroboam, the former servant of King Solomon, became king of the northern kingdom of Israel as God had promised. The kingdom of Israel was comprised of the remaining 10 tribes (1 Kings 11 and 12).

Even though all the tribes were descendants of Jacob (also called Israel, lost 10 tribes of Israel.

Less than 150 years later, during the sixth century B.C., God allowed the nation of Judah, which likewise continued to sin, to fall to the Babylonian Empire. Many Jews, including the prophet Daniel and his three friends, were taken as captives to Babylon. After 70 years, the Jews were given their freedom and allowed to return to Judah and rebuild the city of Jerusalem and the temple. They were still in their land when the Romans conquered Judea in 63 B.C.

Israel and Judah in the first century
Although there had been some mixing of the peoples of Israel and Judah (Lost Tribes of Israel” and “12 Tribes of Israel Today: Who Are They?

What country is Judah today?
When the modern nation of Israel was founded in 1948, it was established as a haven for Jews. It is the only nation in the world today that is predominantly from the tribe of Judah. Many Jews have moved there, but still over half of people of Jewish descent live in other countries around the world.

Some have mistakenly assumed that because its founders chose the name Israel, this nation is now home for all of the descendants of ancient Israel. Several passages in the Bible make it clear that the modern nation of Israel does not represent all of the ancient Israelites.

First, we must realize that the Bible speaks of Abraham’s descendants as being an extremely large number of people—“as the sand of the sea” (Genesis 32:12). With the modern nation of Israel’s population approaching 9 million, compared to the earth’s current population of approximately 7.7 billion, the belief that the modern nation of Israel represents all of Abraham’s descendants doesn’t adequately respect or do justice to the promise God made to this patriarch.

Furthermore, Abraham’s descendant Ephraim was prophesied to “become a multitude of nations”; and his brother, Manasseh, a “great” nation (Genesis 48:19). Again, the modern nation of Israel has not fulfilled these biblical prophecies.

Israel and Judah reunited
While delivering prophecies to the ancient peoples of Israel and Judah of the upcoming demise of their nations because of their disobedience to God’s law, several prophets also spoke of a time of restoration after Christ returns to establish the Kingdom of God here on earth.

Jeremiah wrote: “‘In those days and in that time,’ says the LORD, ‘the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together; with continual weeping they shall come, and seek the LORD their God. They shall ask the way to Zion, with their faces toward it, saying, “Come and let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that will not be forgotten”’” (Jeremiah 50:4-5). This prophecy speaks of both Israel and Judah jointly coming to God.

More explicitly via the use of a visual aid, God revealed through Ezekiel His plan to unite the two nations. “‘As for you, son of man, take a stick for yourself and write on it: “For Judah and for the children of Israel, his companions.” Then take another stick and write on it, “For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel, his companions.” Then join them one to another for yourself into one stick, and they will become one in your hand.

“‘And when the children of your people speak to you, saying, “Will you not show us what you mean by these?”—say to them, “Thus says the Lord GOD: ‘Surely I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will join them with it, with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they will be one in My hand.’” … Then say to them, “Thus says the Lord GOD: ‘Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again’”’” (Ezekiel 37:16-19, 21-22).

The descendants of the ancient Israelites who had been part of the ancient nations of Israel and Judah will be reunited. They will once again be one nation enjoying peace and prosperity in the wonderful Kingdom of God.
 

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Not true,those in Christ at His return take part in the first resurrection ,ie,the 2nd death has no power,however at that return,ALL shall be changed saint and sinner alike.

Christ comes here,though all shall be changed ,some will still have a mortal soul,meaning they can go to the lake of fire...

At the change ,ALL bodies are incorruptable meaning they don't get sick and such.

There will be NO flesh in the millennium

Why do you call them Gentile heathens ,anybody not in Christ is a heathen.

Again,two choices ,Virgin or a Whore don't give a dang who you may think you are!!!!!

Not sure where you are getting this understanding from, but it is not from the scriptures.

Perhaps you should start reading them for yourself instead of listening to others who claim that they are teachers who can teach you what you should know.
 

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Not sure where you are getting this understanding from, but it is not from the scriptures.

Perhaps you should start reading them for yourself instead of listening to others who claim that they are teachers who can teach you what you should know.

What part I got wrong and we can discuss,and I do read for myself,those whom I quote I believe in a like mind and it's just easier for me to post
 
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God's relationship with Israel, is the ultimate love story.

Zech 12:10 “I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn.

They will call on My name, And I will answer them; I will say, ‘They are My people,’ And they will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’” Zech 13:9

As He embraces His wife, Israel:

“I will betroth you [Israel] to Me forever;
Yes, I will betroth you to Me in righteousness and in justice,
In loving kindness and in compassion,
And I will betroth you to Me in faithfulness.
Then you will know the Lord."

The most beautiful love story ever written, a love story without end.

"and so ALL Israel will be saved; just as it is written,
THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB.
THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS."…Romans 11:26
All Israel will be saved ? that happened when Jesus Christ came. Nathaniel was a true Israelite if you believe Jesus, for Jesus gave Nathaniel the greatest complement of such a one.
Nathaniel represents Israel 100 % as Jesus pointed this out clearly, so no one trumps Nathaniel, Jesus is clearly defining what is needed for one to be a true Israel in fact.

I seen Jimmy Swaggart point out that Jesus Christ is the new Covenant, just the other night, so even he knows that fact.
I do not know if Swaggart is spelt correctly.
A true Israelite ! indeed ! Nathaniel was ! Phrase the Lord ! he knew who Jesus was directly, Phrase the Lord! As all who are truly Blessed know, Hallelujah !

If all who claimed to be of the Jewish religion were as Nathaniel, Hallelujah ! but they were not in regard to all there Tribe, sorry to say but it's the truth, one only has to look to the OT in that, remember the 12 Sons of Israel for example, now what did some of them do to one or their brothers ? and what did they say to there Dad about this ? Only one Son was the greatest of all of his brothers ? and his full brother was the next greatest, the other 10 where do they sit, one may ask ? just in that alone we can see not all of such cut the mustard, let alone all of the people from Israel down through the years, yet alone they who missed the bus when Jesus Came, no to mention all who do not have a clue nowadays, Who are they ? Nothing !
If one does not understand who Jesus Christ truly is, they are nothing, because they are lost. everyone who is truly born again know this, for they were once lost, but now they are found and this is wonderful, it's the greatest thing that one could be found, I feel so sorry for people who do not understand such.
When you truly are born again you will not be looking forward to the 2ed coming, because you are already in the Kingdom of God, before the second coming comes the Devil comes ! and when everything of his is burnt up then comes the second Coming, but it's the same deal as always, you have to become born again ! to enter into the Kingdom of God, Hallelujah !
 

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I find it so sad, that for thousands of years, satan has being trying to destroy Israel, so that God would not be able to fulfill His promise, and to make Him foolish weak and a liar, yet here we have "christians", denying God the very same thing, the ability to fulfill His promise. Why do so many "christoins", oppose God and stand against Him. You deny Israel you deny God they are His people, and woe to anyman or nation that should stand against the,
Satan can not destroy Israel ! Satan has no power over Israel ! I am talking about True Israel here !
Jesus Christ is the King of Israel !
All who truly serve Christ Jesus are Israel because such as they are truly born again.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God !
No one can come to the Father but through the Son and anyone who claims otherwise is a fool or of Satan for sure, so why would anyone look to some clown claiming to be a Jew, as they are lost ! not only that, they are rejecting Christ Jesus in fact ! I find such as totally disgusting, I am appalled that one claiming to be a Christian can idolise such nonsense, let alone get away with such dribble.
 

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All Israel will be saved ? that happened when Jesus Christ came.

Reggie, I understand the Bible, as the Holy Spirit promised that He would guide me into all truth.

The oldest Covenant in the Bible is a promise of God between Abraham, and all us his seed forever!!

If I cannot depend upon that promise, then I cannot depend upon any promises God has given us.
 

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Satan can not destroy Israel ! Satan has no power over Israel ! I am talking about True Israel here !
Jesus Christ is the King of Israel !
All who truly serve Christ Jesus are Israel because such as they are truly born again.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God !
No one can come to the Father but through the Son and anyone who claims otherwise is a fool or of Satan for sure, so why would anyone look to some clown claiming to be a Jew, as they are lost ! not only that, they are rejecting Christ Jesus in fact ! I find such as totally disgusting, I am appalled that one claiming to be a Christian can idolise such nonsense, let alone get away with such dribble.
Still playing that sad violin.
 
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Yet you still didn't answer my question ,who and where are the company of nations,ie the rest of Israel?
Well God knows, and isnt that good enough for you, Scattered throughout the nations, There are even a few good documentaries on them out there, dont you think God can do what He said He would do, where is thy faith.
 
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Well God knows, and isnt that good enough for you, Scattered throughout the nations, There are even a few good documentaries on them out there, dont you think God can do what He said He would do, where is thy faith.

Stop!!!!!,He said they would be a company of nations,NOT within a nation.

Genesis 35:11 "And God said unto him, "I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;"

So again I ask,what nations are they???????????
 
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Stop!!!!!,He said they would be a company of nations,NOT within a nation.

Genesis 35:11 "And God said unto him, "I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;"

So again I ask,what nations are they???????????
you may as well keep going your on a roll takes lots of energy to start again. Whyu dont you just let God do what He is going to do and stop telling Him He cant. or whatever it is you are on about.
 
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you may as well keep going your on a roll takes lots of energy to start again. Whyu dont you just let God do what He is going to do and stop telling Him He cant. or whatever it is you are on about.

Where did I say He couldn't?It's not whatever I'm on it's thus says the scriptures and scripture tells me they would be a company of nations,and you can't tell me where they are...
 
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Still playing that sad violin.
So you are claiming that Christians are not Israel ?
So who do they serve then ?
Who is Jesus Christ to you then ?

You must be like the fools who rejected Jesus Christ then, the poor idiots who stood by when they killed him. not to mention that all them poor fools were not worthy of Israel in fact.
All them Jews were degenerates and lost as to God in fact, but for only some who knew who Jesus was, as they were truly Israelites as Nathaniel was and Jesus disciples, who were they then bro ? I say that they were the first Christians, because they were truly Israelites, that's true Israelites bro, not the fools who were lead astray by Satan's works claiming to be Israel, no ! they could not cut the mustard bro, even back then ! let alone some God less bastard claiming to be a Jew, who just like back in the day was and is lost.

Any person who does not hold Jesus Christ in total regard as their Lord and Saviour is not worthy of God at all.
 
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