Rev. 7- The Sealing

Please answer this? When Mary conceived, was it by the Father or His Son? Please don't say neither for all bibles clearly state the "seed" of God. Just who is married to who? Is Abraham wed to God in Christ Jesus? Moses spoke face to face with God, Father or Son? Israel is indeed spiritually wed to God the Father, or Christ Jesus in not His Father's Son. Christ Jesus was sent to His Father's house, Israel, seeking a bride. Just like Abraham did for Isaac. Now do the same for your point. Just a little as I have done is all that is needed. Christ Jesus in not wed to Israel as His Father is, though they are as one, they do not have the same bride. The Father is wed spiritually to Israel as the Son is spiritually wed to His Church.In my Father's "house", Israel, mount Zion, are many mansions. Christ Jesus spoke these words to His deciples. See in the Kingdom Age of Israel, mount Zion, how the Father's house is a sea of mansions. Mansions enought in this Garden of Eden for each and everyone of them. Once again, does Christ Jesus call this His house or His Father's house?

Hello Christina,I would like to bring the subject back to the subject of the original post and state that you are very close in you analogy. You stated: This is what the angel from the east [God] said to the spirits of the four winds. The purpose here is to save the earth, the trees and vegetation, also the water and everything else, until God's elect are sealed. Until God's elect, each and every one of them completely understand the events that will take place before the seventh trumpet sounds, and Our Lord Jesus Christ returns.My response: Yes, “the elect” will have that knowledge, however, that knowledge is not that seal. This seal is protection from God’s wrath which will destroy the trees. vegetation and the waters of the earth and will effect every human on the earth except “the elect.”You stated: The subject here is the sealing of God's elect; placing knowledge of everything that is to happen in the minds of God's elect and all those overcomers, so there will be no mystery in these events to them. When we know exactly what is to take place, Satan will not be inviting; for upon his arrival, we will know him for the cheap imitation he is, in relation to our Lord Jesus Christ. My response: “The elect,” as you say, will have the knowledge to be “overcomers.” This is what is unique about the 144,000 and, like Noah, why they are recognized in the Bible. You stated: This seal has nothing to do with going to heaven; but it is the full knowledge of How to stand against the wiles of Satan the Antichrist. This has to take place before the "son of perdition" [Satan] sets his feet on this earth as the Antichrist. You will know how to identify Satan, from the true Christ, or you will be deceived by the Antichrist and become part of his system. Satan is that good, and the Word of God declares it before the fact.My response: You are correct, Bible prophecy has little to do with salvation. It has everything to do with recognizing the Anti-Christ and “overcoming” his system and being alive and “standing” with Christ. You stated: This sealing will be marked in the minds of God's elect in all the tribes of Israel. If you believe this is referring only to the Jews, then you are far off base. The "House of Israel" comprise ten of the twelve tribes, and they were scattered long ago. We know them today as the Christian nations of the Americas, Western Europe, and wherever else they migrated to, and now exist. The book of Hosea details this fact for us. These one hundred and forty four thousand [144,000] of God's elect, sealed in their minds of the events of the end times. The tribe of Joseph is also called "Ephraim", the Scriptures tell us in Genesis 48:8-27. This Scripture also tells us how the birthright of Abraham, was passed through Isaac, to Jacob [Israel], then on to Joseph's son Ephraim. The name of Israel was to be placed, and stay with the tribe of Ephraim. Ephraim is the British [Covenant] people, and the bond between Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh continues to this day [Britain and the U.S.].The omitting of the tribe of Dan here is because of the sins of the people of that tribe, as recorded in I Kings 12:25-28. It was Dan that drew the other tribes of the old "House of Israel" into idolatry.My response: Only the Holy Spirit could have revealed this to you.You stated: Salvation, or going to heaven is not the subject of the sealing in your mind. The 144,000 will be part of a much larger number that will also be sealed.My response: Again, you are correct. I have found that the 144,000 is the male count of a larger group. The females are recognized in the Bible as “the daughters of Zion.”You stated: That seal is knowledge in the minds of the elect, placed their by the seeds of God's Word. God's Word must placed there through your studying and learning what the Holy Spirit of God reveals to you. It's time for God's elect to stop chasing shadows, and study to know God's plan for the elect, and also what He has in store for the devil [Antichrist] and his world system. We are to be a part of God's plan, but not Satan's system.My response: The problem is that there are so many different interpretations (prophetically speaking) which confuse the (Christian) masses. For example: The 144,000 will be evangelizing Jews. This interpretation is extremely popular with and promoted by pre-tribulationalist. Their thoughts are that after the pre-trib rapture, the 144,000 Jews will miraculously be transformed to Christianity by the unexpainable disappearence of million Christians. They feel that after the Chrisians are gone, the 144,000 will be evangelizing around the world. As you know, the pre-trib rapture is inaccurate and so is this understanding of the 144,000.So, if the 144,000 are the “overcomers,” then the only question is: where will they overcome? Either they are scattered aroung the earth or they will be located in one place during the GT. If they are scattered around the earth, then how are they any different than those that are going to be martyred during the GT. I believe that they will be gathered in one place, a place-of-safety. But, there are different interpretations on where the place-of-saftey is (and only one is correct).The book of Daniel states that the puzzle would be sealed until the end times. The correct interpretation of this word puzzle is that knowledge you speak of.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith