What is a soul.

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Earburner

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well im Little afraid of double death
That's a good way of saying "the second death".
Both the unsaved and born again Christians are all
"appointed" to the first death through Adam.
As for the BAC, they have been given the Gift of eternal Life through the Holy Spirit, and therefore DO HAVE eternal life now! 1 John 5[13] These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
As for the unsaved, they DO NOT have the Holy Spirit, therefore they shall remain dead forever.

That is, as you say, the "double death". They will not and cannot ever be resurrected. They cannot exist in any form or fashion after the first death. They remain "condemned already". KJV- John 3:18.
Why?
They never believed in Jesus!
 

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That's a good way of saying "the second death".
Both the unsaved and born again Christians are all
"appointed" to the first death through Adam.
As for the BAC, they have been given the Gift of eternal Life through the Holy Spirit, and therefore DO HAVE eternal life now! 1 John 5[13] These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
As for the unsaved, they DO NOT have the Holy Spirit, therefore they shall remain dead forever.

That is, as you say, the "double death". They will not and cannot ever be resurrected. They cannot exist in any form or fashion after the first death. They remain "condemned already". KJV- John 3:18.
Why?
They never believed in Jesus!
well i meant if the brain dies and then gets ressucrected … but if there is time it would be diffrent
 

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We all know that the Holy Ghost is Masculine, but did you know that the Soul is Feminine?

Psalms 34:2
"My soul shall make her boast in the LORD: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad"


If Body and Soul are the same thing, then how come my Soul is Feminine even though I'm a Man?
 

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What about Adam and Eve?

What part of them died 'on the day' they ate the fruit?

If their Body died, then how did they live to be hundreds of years old?

If their Spirit died, then where is the proof?
 

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I find it interesting that people quote only like one sentence of what I text and twist it out of context. Who does that? Oh yeah, Satan and his disciples
 

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What about Adam and Eve?

What part of them died 'on the day' they ate the fruit?

If their Body died, then how did they live to be hundreds of years old?

If their Spirit died, then where is the proof?
Plot twist...

Since I believe Adam and Eve had no physical Body yet, and because I believe the Spirit cannot die, nor sin, nor be destroyed, that leaves us with the Soul...

Matthew 10:28
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell"


It was their Soul that died.

The Cheribums and Flaming Sword were the creation of the Lake of Fire...

Genesis 3:24
"So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life"


The Cherubims are the Fire in the Lake.

Adam and Eve passed through the Fire and in the process, their Soul was destroyed just as Matthew 10:28 teaches. Their Spirit however, did not die.

God 'clothed' Adam and Eve with 'Skins', meaning they now have a Body.

Let's review what that means...

Genesis 2:25
"And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed"


Naked meant they had no Body yet! How do we know this?

Revelation 16:15
"Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame"


Scripture is referring to being 'clothed' with a Body.

More proof here...

2 Corinthians 5:2-4
"For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven"

"If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked"

"For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life"


Thus, Adam and Eve were 'Naked' because they were Soul and Spirit only without a Body and ultimately experienced the 'Second Death' as described in the Book of Revelation.

So did Adam and Eve 'burn forever'? Were they 'Annihilated'? Nope, they ended up here on Earth like the rest of us...

If Children come from Hell, how did they get there to begin with?

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Matthew 10:28
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell"
What did you want to think, that God is going to go about actually killing people's "soul and body" ??

NO!! All He is saying is that they deprived themselves of His FREE GIFT of Eternal Life, by their own neglect for NOT coming to Him in faith through Jesus!! John 3:18 and Romans 8:8-9.

Read Isaiah 55:8-9, and stop thinking with your own thoughts and ways!
 

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7For we walk by faith, not by sight. 8We are confident, then, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

It would be helpful if people explained what doctrine is they are promoting on these threads.
Is it some kind of soul sleep?
 

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Since I believe Adam and Eve had no physical Body yet, and because I believe the Spirit cannot die, nor sin, nor be destroyed, that leaves us with the Soul...
Apparently you think that Adam and Eve had a pre-existence as a living soul in God's Spirit, before they became a living soul of flesh and blood.
Q. What did Moses, the writer, know about the Gaseous elements, concerning the invisible atomic structure of Nitrogen, Carbon Dioxide, OXYGEN, etc.?
A. NOTHING!! Therefore, he called the AIR that we breathe, "the breath of life".
If Adam could've seen the jets and planes that fly in the AIR today, would he call them "huge birds"?
Yes, I believe so.
 

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7For we walk by faith, not by sight. 8We are confident, then, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
That truly is the desire for all who are born again of His Holy Spirit, but as for the unsaved, in the moment that they stop breathing oxygenated air, they "surely do die".
 

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So, no hell in your theology?
Hell is the pit, the grave.
Hades, Gehenna, is the graves in the earth on fire, when Jesus returns in His Glorious Fiery Presence. The earth and the elements shall MELT with fervent heat, aka the Lake of fire.
 

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Hell is the pit, the grave.
Hades, Gehenna, is the graves in the earth on fire, when Jesus returns in His Glorious Fiery Presence. The earth and the elements shall MELT with fervent heat, aka the Lake of fire.

And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.

And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire.


Then the King will say to those on his right, “Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” . . . Then he will say to those on his left, “Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. . . . And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

.... inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might, when he comes on that day to be glorified in his saints...

If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.

I think you have been deceived with a false doctrine.
 

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And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.

And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire.


Then the King will say to those on his right, “Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” . . . Then he will say to those on his left, “Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. . . . And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

.... inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might, when he comes on that day to be glorified in his saints...

If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.

I think you have been deceived with a false doctrine.
Isaiah 55:8-9
Hell is the pit, the grave!
The fire of Jesus' return is Eternal fire.
All that are in hell/the pit, shall be burned up in the LoF, which is all the surface of the earth, completely on fire, where all of the graves are.
What do you want it to be,
that which is depicted in Sci-fy fantasy videos?
 

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Isaiah 55:8-9
Hell is the pit, the grave!
The fire of Jesus' return is Eternal fire.
All that are in hell/the pit, shall be burned up in the LoF, which is all the surface of the earth, completely on fire, where all of the graves are.
What do you want it to be,
that which is depicted in Sci-fy fantasy videos?

What I want is irrelevant. What the Bible describes is some sort of Eternal punishment, not being burned up in five seconds.
 

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What I want is irrelevant. What the Bible describes is some sort of Eternal punishment, not being burned up in five seconds.
How can those who do not have eternal life live forever??

"Some sort of eternal punishment", is your will of what you would like to see happen!
God is Love! Therefore He has no pleasure in tormenting the wicked? Do you disagree? If so, then its you who is being decieved by false doctrine.
Now, understand His words BY HIS thoughts and ways, and not YOURS.
 

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And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Yes! The punish-MENT for neglecting to repent towards God through faith in Jesus, will be eternal, but there will be no eternal punish-ING.
Again, please read and digest God's judgment for eternal life and eternal condemnation in KJV John 3:18 and Romans 8:8-9.
 

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Your whole being is a soul
 

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How can those who do not have eternal life live forever??

"Some sort of eternal punishment", is your will of what you would like to see happen!
God is Love! Therefore He has no pleasure in tormenting the wicked? Do you disagree? If so, then its you who is being decieved by false doctrine.
Now, understand His words BY HIS thoughts and ways, and not YOURS.
Why would I want them to be punished for eternity? It's not me that is being sinned against. I don't think God has to torment the wicked, but they will be tormented, because being where God isn't, is to be where no good thing exists. And they can't be where God is, as sin can't exist there. And the Bible is clear that they will not cease to exist.