Do you belong to "the [true] Church" (1 Tim 3:15)?, if so, how do you prove it?

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Which church has not succumbed to this "corrupting influence" that you speak of?
Possibly all churches to a greater or lesser degree, but I know many in the nonconformist churches who, without knowing the reasons why there is this conflict, steer clear of anything that seems to contradict New Testament teaching.
 

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Possibly all churches to a greater or lesser degree, but I know many in the nonconformist churches who, without knowing the reasons why there is this conflict, steer clear of anything that seems to contradict New Testament teaching.
That is a fascinating theory since the doctrines of ALL churches contradict each other. Since they all contradict each other that means that there is a "corrupting influence" some churches since they all can't have the Truth.
 
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That is a fascinating theory since the doctrines of ALL churches contradict each other. Since they all contradict each other that means that there is a "corrupting influence" some churches since they all can't have the Truth.
Many people believe Jesus is the rock on which the church is built, not a man called Peter.

Catholics believe in a work based salvation, when in reality works are only the outward evidence of our inner faith. Be a good person and you will go to heaven they say. That is so wrong, but that is Catholicism for you.

I was not going to get involved, so will end here.
 
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That is a fascinating theory since the doctrines of ALL churches contradict each other. Since they all contradict each other that means that there is a "corrupting influence" some churches since they all can't have the Truth.
I said 'disagree' meaning over minor issues, not contradict. That is the province of the Catholic Church.
 
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For me as a sort of long time Christian, 42 years and attending church all that time while studying reading and researching the bible , studying bible history and church history, I finally quit attending church last year, as all the churches in my area have turned their worship service into a "CIRCUS", not to mention all the falsehoods they preach and the false doctrines they proclaim. I've come to the conclusion after doing more research on not only churches in my area, and doctrinal churches all over the U.S. that the true ORGANIZED CHURCH" no longer exists, but the TRUE Church of the called out believers all over the world strongly exists, the "FEW" or the "REMNANT", and are Gods true followers, and are beginning to stand up and speak the truth against all the falsehoods of the "Abomination" some would call the church.
ME: Same here. I only became a Christian 5 years ago and quickly went through 4 Methodist and one Anglican church before abandoning them all due to false doctrines and dead worship. I got fed up of them saying Creation was myth, all gods are the same, having ecumenical meetings.
I'm thinking of starting my own church group but all members would have to accept the Bible 100%!
Itis sad to read Marymog's posts and see how blind she is to the Catholics idolatries and false teachings. She and all Catholics are doomed to destruction when Jesus returns.
 
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Sooo you don't want to talk to me because I will not change my stance that Scripture makes it clear that God does NOT forbid the religious use of statues? You don't want to talk to me because I adhere to Scripture???

I hope you realize God forbade the worship of statues, but he did not forbid the religious use of statues.
Marymog, I'm quite sure your friend Satan is delighted that you continue to revere, worship and petition the statues of ISHTAR and TAMMUZ that litter your pagan shrines, churches and cathedrals.
Ishtar is also Venus
The fact that you are unable to grasp that when GOD said make no graven images He meant idols as you Catholics worship not just paintings or pictures of family for our amusement and decoration.
You call your priests 'father' despite Jesus saying call no-one father? So every time you speak to a priest you disobey Jesus.
Your priest claims he can forgive your sins but no-one can do that.
Your priests tells you to drink blood despite GOD and later Paul saying keep away from blood.
Your priest offers cakes to his sun-god Baal and you eat that 'FOOD DEDICATED TO AN IDOL!'
Your priest holds services on Sun-day not the Sabbath to worship the sun-god.
PAGAN SUN WORSHIP AND CATHOLICISM - LA VERITA - THE TRUTH
Queen of Heaven (antiquity) - Wikipedia
 
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This last two months I've spent a good amount of time reading posts on a forum for people who were raised or drawn into Jehovah's Witnesses and the account they give of the craziness, lies, spying coercion, threats and downright evil of that cult are staggering. Now of course the extent of the peodphilia of the congregations and the concealment and punishment of the abused children is being exposed around the world in massive lawsuits that woudl bankrupt the cult if they hadn't squirrelled their money away into false corporations like the worst criminal families do. The pedophiles rarely get punished as the child has to provide two witnesses to teh crime! This means the pedophile is not exposed, banned or even disciplined.
But sadly so many of those exJWs show how successful the cult was in turning them away from GOD and Jesus!
The exJWs recount the years of depression and toil and fear instilled by false works-based teachings and when they finally break free they curse GOD and Jesus and embrace a sinful life that is just as deadly as being a JW!
I told so many that JWs is a Satanic cult that I was eventually banned - they hate truth and light!
This mirrors my experience with people who claimed to have left the Catholics for Anglicans and cannot bring themselves to accept Mary is dead in her grave like all other humans.
 
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Seasoned:
quote: 'I am not a Jew, I'm a Christian and I'm not UNDER THE LAW, but I do OBEY THE LAW.'
The Law is for circumcised Jews and has 613 rules about every aspect of life.
If you followed the Law you would have long sidelocks and insist your wife shaved her head and wore a wig - and do lots of other ridicuolus Jewish things.
Christians only need follow a few rules:
Acts 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
 
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Acts 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.

24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,

26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.

28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Read your Bible
 

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50 commands in the New Testament is a good start, but if you complete your studies you'll find there is another 1000 commands for a total of 1050 commands.
The Old Testament has 613

But the 10 commandments is another story.
God puts a major emphasis on the 10 Commandments and it starts in the Old Testament, not as the Mosaic Law, but the 10 commandments given separately to the Israelites at Mt. Siani in Exodus 31 on the 2 tablets.
God was very smart knowing that the Mosaic law would be made null and void at the cross, but the 10 commandments Given separately on the 2 tablets were to be obeyed for all time by all mankind including observing the Sabbath by all mankind for all earthly time.

God bless you all in your walk with Christ
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I agree. The Ten Commandments are moral law and therefore eternal. . The Sabbath was holy from the very beginning of creation (Gen 1).
 
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If you follow Christ like you say in your post, then you will follow Him and not the Old Covenant law.
Unlike the OT, I can't find anything in the NT that prohibits Christians from having sex with animals. Does that mean bestiality is lawful for Christians?
 
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If you follow Christ like you say in your post, then you will follow Him and not the Old Covenant law.
Which law of the Ten Commandments is no longer applicable to Christians? Are stealing, lying, murder and adultery lawful for Christians?
 
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Thank you Cooper.

Either God is confused or you are confused because in other OT passages God demands animal sacrifices and instructs how to use of the blood of animal and the meat of that sacrifice (Exodus 12:7). Why are you pitting God against God by quoting (out of context) passages from the OT?

Are you of the belief that Catholics sacrifice animals?

Curious Mary
I heard that the Pope sacrifices a human every morning and then eats his heart for breakfast. Even worse, I know for a FACT that some Catholics BURN CANDLES in their Churches!!!
 
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Acts 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.

24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,

26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.

28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Read your Bible
No mention of lying, stealing or murder in that letter. So, according to your logic, a Christian is free to do those things.
 

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I heard that the Pope sacrifices a human every morning and then eats his heart for breakfast. Even worse, I know for a FACT that some Catholics BURN CANDLES in their Churches!!!
If Jesus commands the burning of candles according to the law of Melchizedek then do it. I do not because Jesus my High Priest and Saviour lives in the temple of my heart.
 
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I agree. The Ten Commandments are moral law and therefore eternal. . The Sabbath was holy from the very beginning of creation (Gen 1).
We are still in the Sabbath day, it is exceedingly long and not 24 hours as most people think, it is in fact everlasting. I will explain if you would like.
 

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If Jesus commands the burning of candles according to the law of Melchizedek then do it. I do not because Jesus my High Priest and Saviour lives in the temple of my heart.
In order to burn candles lawfully, we need a commandment from Jesus that says so?
 

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We are still in the Sabbath day, it is exceedingly long and not 24 hours as most people think, it is in fact everlasting. I will explain if you would like.
In order to burn candles lawfully, we need a commandment from Jesus that says so?
I rather think Jesus would look on the heart and the persons reason for burning candles.