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Scriptural citation?


Scriptural validation? -- I've burned more meat on the bbq than most people, but none of the constituted a "BURNT OFFERING". And even if it did, -- JESUS is the PERMANENT PERFECT OFFERING, and I don't think we need any more "temporary" burnt offerings. -- Unless you have a DeLorean which can get up to 88 mph.


Sounds like "Jehovah Witness Doctrines" ... FALSE as they are.
Bobby Jo
Grow up and seek some maturity.
Like most people you doubt everything you do not know. Jesus had to return and show his wounds to a guy like you didn't he?
 

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@r1xlx, Re: Lk 10

If Jesus "saw", -- was it past tense, when satan was kicked out of heaven and restricted to the earth at the beginning of earth's creation; or present tense AFTER the seventy had already been given power of satan, AND THEN satan was kicked out of heaven?

Perhaps you see what you wish, in spite of the context of Scripture.

You may need better doctrines,
Bobby Jo
 
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Try reading the previous verse?
Eisegesists like you can make teh Bible say anything you want.
But with maturity you can understand that Jesus's words were a reaction to the 70 gleefully claiming power over the demons.
I am sorry you have the biblical acumen of a parameciem, however you can read all of Luke 12, or revelation 12 to come to a knowledge of the truth, or hold on to your speculations and end times fantasies.
 
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@r1xlx, Re: Lk 10

If Jesus "saw", -- was it past tense, when satan was kicked out of heaven and restricted to the earth at the beginning of earth's creation; or present tense AFTER the seventy had already been given power of satan, AND THEN satan was kicked out of heaven?

Perhaps you see what you wish, in spite of the context of Scripture.

You may need better doctrines,
Bobby Jo
Not only that but all of redemptive history is referenced in Rev.12.
 
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I'm sure Satan is delighted with your lies and inability to reason.
You are going to be awfully disappoiunt to die and find all your thoughts perished.
 

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I'm sure Satan is delighted with your lies and inability to reason.
You are going to be awfully disappoiunt to die and find all your thoughts perished.
You deny Jesus is God.
I am sure it will be you who is in for a rude awakening when you deny the Lord of glory, bow your knee, and be cast away into second death.
Is that what you want?
I would urge you to repent and believe the gospel.
 
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FYI The Gospel is the good news that Jesus will return to set up his kingdom here on Earth.
You will not enter that kingdom as it is not for liars who prefers Satan's words over Jesus's.
 

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FYI The Gospel is the good news that Jesus will return to set up his kingdom here on Earth.
You will not enter that kingdom as it is not for liars who prefers Satan's words over Jesus's.
Jesus rules as Lord now on the throne and anyone who denies that Jesus is God come in the flesh is a deceiver and the Anti-Christ.
 

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FYI The Gospel is the good news that Jesus will return to set up his kingdom here on Earth.
You will not enter that kingdom as it is not for liars who prefers Satan's words over Jesus's.

... sounds like more JW blather. -- Is there anything which you believe that doesn't parrot the distortions from your "church".

Please consider that men are designed to hear DIRECTLY from GOD. But due to the events in the Garden of Eden, women are destined to hear from their "husband". So if what you hear is strictly from "men", then you're a woman. So I'll ask again, -- is there anything which you believe that is outside the "teachings" of what you're told?

Bobby Jo
 
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Grow up and seek some maturity.
Like most people you doubt everything you do not know. Jesus had to return and show his wounds to a guy like you didn't he?

-- I just noticed your Post #61 --

I simply asked whether Jesus was the PERFECT and COMPLETE SACRIFICE (Post #58), -- or whether there's a "better" sacrifice from some dead animal. And YOU diverted the conversation.

So I can only guess that you cannot answer truthfully, because maybe you're double minded? You profess Jesus, but then profess the justification of a DEAD ANIMAL.

Take one or the other, but not BOTH.
Bobby Jo
 

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Enoch111 said:
-- Post #50
Sounds like the inmates have taken charge of the asylum by proclaiming that we are ALREADY in the Tribulation.
Bobby Jo said:
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-- if you think we're NOT in the Tribulation, please explain your premise/evidence/justification.

-- Post #54
If you think we are,explain yourself...

I guess we should note that @Enoch111 apparently isn't willing or hasn't had the opportunity to provide an answer. There are SO MANY INDIVIDUALS who use the "hit-and-run" technique, -- it's hard to figure out who has any integrity anymore

But now to @n2thelight, -- If you can't explain why we AREN'T, then why do you challenge that we ARE?!? With all your self asserted "expertise" in Scriptural matters, are you like the FALSE religious "experts" of Jesus' day who couldn't perceive that Jesus was the Messiah? And now with all your "expertise" you can't perceive if we're in the Tribulation or not?


It seems you're more of a "scoffer" than an "expert".
Bobby Jo
 
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But now to @n2thelight, -- If you can't explain why we AREN'T, then why do you challenge that we ARE?!? With all your self asserted "expertise" in Scriptural matters, are you like the FALSE religious "experts" of Jesus' day who couldn't perceive that Jesus was the Messiah? And now with all your "expertise" you can't perceive if we're in the Tribulation or not?


It seems you're more of a "scoffer" than an "expert".
Bobby Jo


Never claimed to be an expert ,but yet I know for a fact that we are not in the tribulation,if you respond do tell me why you think we are, as you did a great deflection job.

Here's why we are not

John 16:33 "These things I have spoken unto you, that in Me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."

Tribulation has always been in the world,however,the tribulation of satan has not come yet.

Now let me show you when it does

Revelation 12:7 "And there was war in heaven: Mi'-cha-el and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,,"

Revelation 12:8 "And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven."

Have you seen satan yet?

Revelation 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Sa'-tan, which deceived the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

Satan's evil spirit is allowed on earth now, along with his demons. However, you haven't seen Satan in person yet. Satan and his angels, both physically and bodily, will come to earth just as they did in Genesis 6.

Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand:)"

This reverence to Daniel the prophet, Makes the book of Daniel part of the New Testament. This reference is directed to Daniel 9:27.

The "abomination" is when Satan stands in Jerusalem, and proclaims that he is God, and the world believes it. The "desolation" is an incorrect translation into the English, which should read "desolator", and Satan is the desolator that will make the claim that he is God, the true Christ. "Desolation" is a condition, in the Hebrew manuscripts it is written, "On the wings of the desolator," this is not a condition, but a entity, a person. It is through this individual, Satan that the abomination shall come from. It is the desolator [Satan] that shall cause all but the sealed of God, to become desolate, or deceived.

I can give you more,however do show why you think we are in the tribulation.

Another thing,do you know that there are two tribulations?
 

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We have been watching with interest, lots of satellites passing over the night sky in our part of the world from Elon Musk's, SpaceX
launches Elon Musk's SpaceX satellites lining up over New Zealand

Just a thought: Do you think he is knowing/unknowingly part of the last days beast system?

An attribute of God is omniscience, seeing and knowing all, and we know that Satan wants to be like him. If the satellite system is part of this effort to monitor everyone's activity at the same time 24/7, then yes, I would say its part of the beast system. Its being set up in such a way that it will be nearly impossible to escape it.
 
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... Have you seen satan yet?...

You don't watch the news?

Revelation 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Sa'-tan, which deceived the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

... Satan and his angels, both physically and bodily, will come to earth just as they did in Genesis 6. ...

"Will come"? I think they've been here for some 6,000 years.


Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand:)"

Did you expect the Tribulation end-event at the beginning?


You're guessing. If you had concrete EVIDENCE you'd show it. But you don't know what you don't know. If you knew what you don't know, you'd ask questions. But instead you cast aspersions. So please feel free to remain in your ignorance! :)

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An attribute of God is omniscience, seeing and knowing all, and we know that Satan wants to be like him. If the satellite system is part of this effort to monitor everyone's activity at the same time 24/7, then yes, I would say its part of the beast system. Its being set up in such a way that it will be nearly impossible to escape it.

Ummmmmmmmm, you've got a good approach, but missed the "bulls-eye". The fact is, it's not satellites, -- it's computers. That's the FALSE "holy spirit". And to prove the point please perform the following, using the "world's language, -- English", with increments of "6":

A = 6
B = 12
C = 18
D = ... etc.​

Now sum: C O M P U T E R. What's it add up to?


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Jesus rules as Lord now on the throne and anyone who denies that Jesus is God come in the flesh is a deceiver and the Anti-Christ.
Jesus is not GOD and GOD is not Jesus.
The idea that GOD could take a 33 years vacation and leave Heaven under the care of the archangels while He came to Earth to spend years debating in the temple and looking after his mother until his halfbrothers could support her and their sisters is clearly ridiculous.
Or maybe you think they are the same so that GOD coudl exit Jesus's body and leave it like a mummy while He popped back to heaven to check everything was running smoothly?
 

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Jesus is not GOD and GOD is not Jesus.
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To CLARIFY:

Jesus is not the Father, and the Father is not Jesus. -- Both are "GOD", along with the HOLY SPIRIT.

To argue otherwise contradicts Scripture.
Bobby Jo
 

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Jesus is not GOD and GOD is not Jesus.
The idea that GOD could take a 33 years vacation and leave Heaven under the care of the archangels while He came to Earth to spend years debating in the temple and looking after his mother until his halfbrothers could support her and their sisters is clearly ridiculous.
Or maybe you think they are the same so that GOD coudl exit Jesus's body and leave it like a mummy while He popped back to heaven to check everything was running smoothly?
Phil2 is quite clear that Jesus took upon Himself the form of a Servant.
Those who have man made religious beliefs cannot know the things of the Spirit of God.1 cor2:14.
You deny Jesus as God before men, He will deny you entrance into heaven.
Your profane language in mocking the incarnation will enable you to remain physically alive, mentally alert, but spiritually dead.....repent and believe the biblical gospel, and the Biblical God.
Jesus being raised from the dead was a fulfilled promise from psalm16, quoted in Acts 2.
Put down your little watchtower pamphlets and pick up a real bible, not the new world mistranslation, and maybe God will have mercy on you also.
You are currently without God ,having no hope, in the world, accusing the brethren.
 
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