How "LIMITED" is your thinking on Other Tongues?

Willie T said:

I'd still like to hear from the mature readers.

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You are so full of that poop you cannot recognise a mature Christian.
Acts 2 mention of tongues merely points out that the crowd of listeners had come from far afield.
Nothing magical about that.
You could intepret it as a prophecy of these Last Days when the Gospel will be preached in all the world.
JWs seems to be the foremost Gospel spreaders but unfortunately their Bibles and literature is full of graven images of creeping things and demons and condemns the distributor and holder of it to death via Commandment2.
Are you saying you are one of those sad people who claim Paul was no Christian?

Willie T said:

If you have the maturity to read something all the way through, carefully and slowly, without judging, you might like this article.
If you lack that ability, don't bother opening this. (It isn't being placed here to listen to arguments about how you "know" what is correct. It's probably too long for you, anyway. LOL)

A New Look At Tongues

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While it took him long enough to get there, I think it makes perfect sense.

r1xlx: "I quote 1 Corinthians 12:10 To others he gives the ability to speak in different kinds of languages they had not known before. And to still others he gives the ability to explain what was said in those languages. '
I say this means that tongues is a gift that may be given to some who GOD can foreseee will make use of it but it is not an essential outer marker of being saved."

If you had only noticed the reference to both prophesying and tongues in the text you cite: "to another prophecy...to another various kinds of tongues (12:10)" and then read how Paul teaches that every believer has the potential to exercise both gifts!

"I want you all to speak in tongues...I thank God that I speak in tongues more than you all (1 Corinthians 14:5, 18)."
"You can all prophesy one by one (14:31)."
"...earnestly strive for the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy (14:1)."

The fact that not everyone in the church of Corinth actually speaks in tongues (12:30) in no way implies that they are not intended to do so.

As a whole, the NT speaks of tongues as a miraculous gift. Pentecost was not an isolated case, of which Paul was fully aware of (Galatians 1:11-12) (Thank you @Enoch111) . It was the advent of the Christian Church, which is summarized by preaching in the name of God's grace and forgiveness, Jesus Christ's Messiaship, and the Holy Spirit's testimony and witness to one's salvation. The Day of Pentecost was the inauguration, and consummate day, of this attestation.
The room shook where the Apostles had met, and tongues of fire rested upon them. And then what, nothing, according to the article? The tongues of fire were just for affect, or aesthetics, maybe a little pyrotechnics?
The gift is called 'Speaking in Tongues', not 'Hearing in Tongues'! It was the Apostles that received the gift, not the foreigners.
The Apostles were endowed with a miraculous gift, as the tongues of fire verified, and they employed it in their discourse to the men of many nations. Each one hearing them speak in the language from their 'birth place' (Acts 2:8) (Thank you @DPMartin & @marks ).

Willie T said:

If you have the maturity ...

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It looks like you had access to a dictionary, because previously you couldn't SPELL "maturity".

Please go back and read the DEFINITION. -- It might help you A LOT!




-- Accusing others of "Maturity" from someone who discounts everything that he doesn't propose. Perhaps some day this individual would have a full conversation without running from the Topic, slandering on his way out. -- Yeah, that'll happen. NOT!

Church people. -- The worse kind.
Bobby Jo

r1xlx said:

You are so full of that poop you cannot recognise a mature Christian.
Acts 2 mention of tongues merely points out that the crowd of listeners had come from far afield.
Nothing magical about that.
You could intepret it as a prophecy of these Last Days when the Gospel will be preached in all the world.
JWs seems to be the foremost Gospel spreaders but unfortunately their Bibles and literature is full of graven images of creeping things and demons and condemns the distributor and holder of it to death via Commandment2.
Are you saying you are one of those sad people who claim Paul was no Christian?

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Hey there Willie....
Be careful who you call mature or manure....I am young at heart and use deodorant to cover up the stink!

Berserk said:

r1xlx: "I quote 1 Corinthians 12:10 To others he gives the ability to speak in different kinds of languages they had not known before. And to still others he gives the ability to explain what was said in those languages. '
I say this means that tongues is a gift that may be given to some who GOD can foreseee will make use of it but it is not an essential outer marker of being saved."

If you had only noticed the reference to both prophesying and tongues in the text you cite: "to another prophecy...to another various kinds of tongues (12:10)" and then read how Paul teaches that every believer has the potential to exercise both gifts!

"I want you all to speak in tongues...I thank God that I speak in tongues more than you all (1 Corinthians 14:5, 18)."
"You can all prophesy one by one (14:31)."
"...earnestly strive for the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy (14:1)."

The fact that not everyone in the church of Corinth actually speaks in tongues (12:30) in no way implies that they are not intended to do so.

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Meanwhile the truth is given in 1 Corinthians 12 says 12:7 The Holy Spirit is given to each of us in a special way. That is for the good of all. 8 To some people the Spirit gives a message of wisdom. To others the same Spirit gives a message of knowledge. 9 To others the same Spirit gives faith. To others that one Spirit gives gifts of healing. 10 To others he gives the power to do miracles. To others he gives the ability to prophesy. To others he gives the ability to tell the spirits apart. To others he gives the ability to speak in different kinds of languages they had not known before. And to still others he gives the ability to explain what was said in those languages. 11 All the gifts are produced by one and the same Spirit. He gives gifts to each person, just as he decides.'
Holy spirit decided to give me the spirits of wisdom, knowledge and discernment and I constantly use all three to try get the Gospel across.

r1xlx said:

... Holy spirit decided to give me the spirits of wisdom, knowledge and discernment and I constantly use all three to try get the Gospel across.

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... and the HOLY SPIRIT also wishes to give you the Gift of Tongues and Interpretations so that you might be more complete..

So don't deny what you don't have, in favor of what you do have. Be FULLY equipped.
Bobby Jo

Willie T said:

Bobby Jo,
Please be assured that I would never accuse you (nor several others on here) of being mature.

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Again, please find that which you lack before assigning to others.

Bobby Jo

To All,

Apparently people's "thinking-limitations" are not restricted to "tongues". Some have religious "limitations" which prevent them from the TRUTH of Scripture, and enslave them with a "blind-religion". And so the blind would lead the blind, and both shall fall into the pit.

However, we don't have to be led by the blind. We can be led by the TRUTH of Scripture and the Holy Spirit. But who is who will receive it?



The pursuers take it by ardent action (Matt. 11:12),
Bobby Jo

Bobby Jo said:

... and the HOLY SPIRIT also wishes to give you the Gift of Tongues and Interpretations so that you might be more complete..

So don't deny what you don't have, in favor of what you do have. Be FULLY equipped.
Bobby Jo

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where does it say I am supposed to have gift of tongues?
and where do I deny gift of tongues may be usefulwhen dealing with foreigners?
You are twisting Paul's words.

Nice one Freddy, Parham assigment, and Agnes Oman who maybe spoke in foreign language, which was never used to advance the word of God, but to glorify themselves, which turned in the current language, Yabba Dabba Do Gibberish, Now behold I say, and 100 + years later and a 100 + million people to date, who give worship to the Master God in Yabba Dabba Do Gibberish, which they don't understand, then expect to enter the Right gate of eternal life,
God spoke, and in all the dimensions of the Bible, never has it been said, put to paper or passed on vis the Angels, that there is a secret type of language, or heavenly tongue that we will speak in Gods kingdom or here on earth, nor do we need that tongue here on earth, for if so, then Jesus would been the demonstrator and teacher of that tongue.
For the Speaking in Tongues, has to the Christ, always been our human language, with all speech ever recorded used by God in the Ages past and now, God expects us to pray in our own understanding, with the tool of choice our native tongue, nothing can be more pleasing to God, than our Praises with our understanding.
Withal praises, Speaking in Tongues, of your own language, is the leading instrument by which the praises of God are proclaimed.
Never has the speech of mighty men of God, from Noah Jesus and Moses, ever been any thing but their natural native tongue of their understanding.
If your speaking in tongues gibberish, your a gambler of eternal life, STOP, and give God his due with your understanding and thoughts with all prayers in your native tongues, stop being lazy and lead the evil tongue, thinking it sounds good and has more power, for if it did, Jesus would told us so

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r1xlx said:

where does it say I am supposed to have gift of tongues?
and where do I deny gift of tongues may be usefulwhen dealing with foreigners?
You are twisting Paul's words.

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You deny what "tongues" is. It's not speaking a foreign language, -- it's speaking a "heavenly" language.

Many "churches" FALSELY teach what you parrot, but the Scriptures teach otherwise.
Bobby Jo

Neddles said:

... Gibberish, which they don't understand, ...

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You mock what you don't understand.


Perhaps the "teachings" of your church are FALSE.
Bobby Jo

Bobby Jo, You obviously don't understand what you quoted: 'unless some one interprets,'.
In a church full of English speakers jabbering Stanaic tongue is of no use.
Is handling snakes is also holy in yo neck o the woods?

r1xlx said:

Bobby Jo, You obviously don't understand what you quoted: ...

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YOU obviously don't understand that your "husband" (you're like Eve) isn't telling you what the Scriptures actually say, and YOU BELIEVE YOUR HUSBAND.


Just keep believing their lies,
Bobby Jo

Willie T said:

I'd still like to hear from the mature readers.

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Peter was given the keys to heaven and to go there one must do what Peter says:
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

1Co 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

1Co 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

In Acts 2:38 Peter told the people to repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall (not maybe but you shall) receive the gift of the Holy Ghost,
Rom_6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.