Greetings All.I am a new member and this is my first post.I chose to ask about David Wilkerson's recent prophesy/prediction about an upcoming catastrophic event.Normally I treat all these predictions with great skepticism, and have been proven correct. But this hit me differently.1 - David Wilkerson is not prone to making these rather incredible predictions and is not associated with people who do.2 - He himself stated he didn't want to do it but felt moved by God to do so.3 - He has not tried to milk this prediction for any publicity or personal acknowledgement.4 - He has no personal interest in having people believe this prediction.5 - He has not used this to try to sell a book/tape/CD/study/emergency kits, etc.6 - He has not used this to try to further his personal ministry.7 - He has proven time and time again to be a Godly, believing Christian who seems to be in tune with God.8 - His personal ministry has no history of questionable dealings, dishonesty, love of money, etc.9 - This is not a world-ending prophesy but rather a very specific, targeted event.And then there is the intangible...this prediction just doesn't seem to go away for me. It keeps coming up in my mind over and over.Let me repeat that I have been in church or seen programs where great and grandios predictions of upcoming catastrophes have been predicted and have (rightly) greated them with skepticism. This seems different to me.I would appreciate your input.
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QUOTE (Polar @ Apr 14 2009, 11:09 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72528
Greetings All.I am a new member and this is my first post.I chose to ask about David Wilkerson's recent prophesy/prediction about an upcoming catastrophic event....
I don't even know if I have ever heard of the person you mention. You say he is "prophesy/prediction about an upcoming catastrophic event," can you give us more on his prophesy than that? Some particulars, or is it just a general "catastrophic event?" The prophets in Scripture talk about "catastrophic events" in the future.
Greetings All.I am a new member and this is my first post.I chose to ask about David Wilkerson's recent prophesy/prediction about an upcoming catastrophic event....
I don't even know if I have ever heard of the person you mention. You say he is "prophesy/prediction about an upcoming catastrophic event," can you give us more on his prophesy than that? Some particulars, or is it just a general "catastrophic event?" The prophets in Scripture talk about "catastrophic events" in the future.
Who is David Wilkerson?The book, "The Cross and the Switchblade" details the first several years of his ministry in New York City helping street kids, drug addict and peddlars, and gang members.I saw reports of his prediction/prophecy on a number of news outlets and web sites.Here is the article from his blog from March 23rd:http://www.worldchallenge.org/coverletter/an_urgent_messageLiving in the Perfect Will of GodAN URGENT MESSAGEI am compelled by the Holy Spirit to send out an urgent message to all on our mailing list, and to friends and to bishops we have met all over the world.AN EARTH-SHATTERING CALAMITY IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. IT IS GOING TO BE SO FRIGHTENING, WE ARE ALL GOING TO TREMBLE — EVEN THE GODLIEST AMONG US.For ten years I have been warning about a thousand fires coming to New York City. It will engulf the whole megaplex, including areas of New Jersey and Connecticut. Major cities all across America will experience riots and blazing fires — such as we saw in Watts, Los Angeles, years ago.There will be riots and fires in cities worldwide. There will be looting — including Times Square, New York City. What we are experiencing now is not a recession, not even a depression. We are under God’s wrath. In Psalm 11 it is written,“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?” (v. 3).God is judging the raging sins of America and the nations. He is destroying the secular foundations.The prophet Jeremiah pleaded with wicked Israel, “God is fashioning a calamity against you and devising a plan against you. Oh turn back each of you from your evil way, and reform your ways and deeds. But they will say, It’s hopeless! For we are going to follow our own plans, and each of us will act according to the stubbornness of his evil heart” (Jeremiah 18:11–12).In Psalm 11:6, David warns, “Upon the wicked he will rain snares (coals of fire)…fire…burning wind…will be the portion of their cup.” Why? David answered, “Because the Lord is righteous” (v. 7). This is a righteous judgment — just as in the judgments of Sodom and in Noah’s generation.WHAT SHALL THE RIGHTEOUS DO? WHAT ABOUT GOD’S PEOPLE?First, I give you a practical word I received for my own direction. Lay in store a thirty-day supply of food, toiletries and other essentials. In major cities, grocery stores are emptied in an hour at the sign of an impending disaster.As for our spiritual reaction, we have but two options. This is outlined in Psalm 11. We “flee like a bird to a mountain.” Or, as David says, “He fixed his eyes on the Lord on his throne in heaven — his eyes beholding, his eyelids testing the sons of men” (v. 4). “In the Lord I take refuge” (v. 1).I will say to my soul: No need to run…no need to hide. This is God’s righteous work. I will behold our Lord on his throne, with his eye of tender, loving kindness watching over every step I take — trusting that he will deliver his people even through floods, fires, calamities, tests, trials of all kinds.Note: I do not know when these things will come to pass, but I know it is not far off. I have unburdened my soul to you. Do with the message as you choose.God bless and keep you.In Christ,DAVID WILKERSONDW:bbm 3.23.09
QUOTE (Polar @ Apr 14 2009, 06:38 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72554
Who is David Wilkerson?The book, "The Cross and the Switchblade" details the first several years of his ministry in New York City helping street kids, drug addict and peddlars, and gang members.I saw reports of his prediction/prophecy on a number of news outlets and web sites.Here is the article from his blog from March 23rd:I will say to my soul: No need to run…no need to hide. This is God’s righteous work. I will behold our Lord on his throne, with his eye of tender, loving kindness watching over every step I take — trusting that he will deliver his people even through floods, fires, calamities, tests, trials of all kinds.Note: I do not know when these things will come to pass, but I know it is not far off. I have unburdened my soul to you. Do with the message as you choose.God bless and keep you.In Christ,DAVID WILKERSONDW:bbm 3.23.09
We have a great tribulation coming upon the whole world. Not one soul knows exactly how it is coming down, except those plotting it against us. Which is Ishmael's seed. They have been spoken about through out the bible as the source, the 12 tribes of Ishmael's seed, the sons of Keturah, the Midianites are mentioned. But these seeds come against the Jew and the Christian and prophecy written will be completed for us and we will be planted in the Holy Land, the treasured possession of the Lord's not to be uprooted ever again. Thanks Vickie
Who is David Wilkerson?The book, "The Cross and the Switchblade" details the first several years of his ministry in New York City helping street kids, drug addict and peddlars, and gang members.I saw reports of his prediction/prophecy on a number of news outlets and web sites.Here is the article from his blog from March 23rd:I will say to my soul: No need to run…no need to hide. This is God’s righteous work. I will behold our Lord on his throne, with his eye of tender, loving kindness watching over every step I take — trusting that he will deliver his people even through floods, fires, calamities, tests, trials of all kinds.Note: I do not know when these things will come to pass, but I know it is not far off. I have unburdened my soul to you. Do with the message as you choose.God bless and keep you.In Christ,DAVID WILKERSONDW:bbm 3.23.09
We have a great tribulation coming upon the whole world. Not one soul knows exactly how it is coming down, except those plotting it against us. Which is Ishmael's seed. They have been spoken about through out the bible as the source, the 12 tribes of Ishmael's seed, the sons of Keturah, the Midianites are mentioned. But these seeds come against the Jew and the Christian and prophecy written will be completed for us and we will be planted in the Holy Land, the treasured possession of the Lord's not to be uprooted ever again. Thanks Vickie
QUOTE (Polar @ Apr 14 2009, 11:09 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72528
Greetings All.I am a new member and this is my first post.I chose to ask about David Wilkerson's recent prophesy/prediction about an upcoming catastrophic event.Normally I treat all these predictions with great skepticism, and have been proven correct. But this hit me differently.1 - David Wilkerson is not prone to making these rather incredible predictions and is not associated with people who do.2 - He himself stated he didn't want to do it but felt moved by God to do so.3 - He has not tried to milk this prediction for any publicity or personal acknowledgement.4 - He has no personal interest in having people believe this prediction.5 - He has not used this to try to sell a book/tape/CD/study/emergency kits, etc.6 - He has not used this to try to further his personal ministry.7 - He has proven time and time again to be a Godly, believing Christian who seems to be in tune with God.8 - His personal ministry has no history of questionable dealings, dishonesty, love of money, etc.9 - This is not a world-ending prophesy but rather a very specific, targeted event.And then there is the intangible...this prediction just doesn't seem to go away for me. It keeps coming up in my mind over and over.Let me repeat that I have been in church or seen programs where great and grandios predictions of upcoming catastrophes have been predicted and have (rightly) greated them with skepticism. This seems different to me.I would appreciate your input.
Just a quick reply for now Polar.Somewhere I have an original copy of Wilkerson's book "The Vision" from back in 1973 ? 1977?Some hard to imagine predictions were written back then.They are no longer hard to imagine in modern day.You are correct Polar , David did not want to publish the information , and yes he is a man with a good track record and stood to gain nothing from going public with "The Vision". When he sold his book it was for not much more than the printing costs.I Started out reading it as a carefull sceptic way back then , But now almost 40 years later I have to admit I have seen a fulfillment of many (not all) of the predictions. Some are still future but look more possible than ever.I am not positive , but I think it may be published free online somewhere , google .... Wilkerson "The Vision" .... you should find it.If you can find it , you should paste some of the highlights here for others to read and we can discuss it. Many thanks.Best regardsMartin W.
Greetings All.I am a new member and this is my first post.I chose to ask about David Wilkerson's recent prophesy/prediction about an upcoming catastrophic event.Normally I treat all these predictions with great skepticism, and have been proven correct. But this hit me differently.1 - David Wilkerson is not prone to making these rather incredible predictions and is not associated with people who do.2 - He himself stated he didn't want to do it but felt moved by God to do so.3 - He has not tried to milk this prediction for any publicity or personal acknowledgement.4 - He has no personal interest in having people believe this prediction.5 - He has not used this to try to sell a book/tape/CD/study/emergency kits, etc.6 - He has not used this to try to further his personal ministry.7 - He has proven time and time again to be a Godly, believing Christian who seems to be in tune with God.8 - His personal ministry has no history of questionable dealings, dishonesty, love of money, etc.9 - This is not a world-ending prophesy but rather a very specific, targeted event.And then there is the intangible...this prediction just doesn't seem to go away for me. It keeps coming up in my mind over and over.Let me repeat that I have been in church or seen programs where great and grandios predictions of upcoming catastrophes have been predicted and have (rightly) greated them with skepticism. This seems different to me.I would appreciate your input.
Just a quick reply for now Polar.Somewhere I have an original copy of Wilkerson's book "The Vision" from back in 1973 ? 1977?Some hard to imagine predictions were written back then.They are no longer hard to imagine in modern day.You are correct Polar , David did not want to publish the information , and yes he is a man with a good track record and stood to gain nothing from going public with "The Vision". When he sold his book it was for not much more than the printing costs.I Started out reading it as a carefull sceptic way back then , But now almost 40 years later I have to admit I have seen a fulfillment of many (not all) of the predictions. Some are still future but look more possible than ever.I am not positive , but I think it may be published free online somewhere , google .... Wilkerson "The Vision" .... you should find it.If you can find it , you should paste some of the highlights here for others to read and we can discuss it. Many thanks.Best regardsMartin W.
QUOTE (Polar @ Apr 20 2009, 10:04 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72809
So no one has heard of this?No one has any real serious thought on this?
Millions of people have been aware of "The Vision" since 1974.If you are trying to stir up new interest why not post some of the highlights like I mentioned earlier. That way you may get some response.
So no one has heard of this?No one has any real serious thought on this?
Millions of people have been aware of "The Vision" since 1974.If you are trying to stir up new interest why not post some of the highlights like I mentioned earlier. That way you may get some response.
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David has made some blunders!Propheicies.1.No more gospel on tv by 1999.He preached this in the Solomon Church in December of 1994:"Right now I semse in my spirit that less then 5 years there will be no more so-called gospel television networks. They will all fall into bankruptcy and absolute ruin."2. 1,000 Fires in New York City due to race riots in 1993?From a prophecy of september 7, 1992:"I have had recurring visions of over 1,000 fires burning at one time here in New York City. I am convinced race riots will soon explode! New York City is right now a powder keg-ready-to blow!...fedreal and state Welfare cutbacks will be the spark that ignites the fuse. Next year, New York City could have over 100,000 angry men on the streets, enraged because they have been cut off from benefits....Federal troops will have to move in to restore order. New York City will have tanks running down its avenues...Churches will be closed for a season because it will be to dangerous to travel about. Fires will rage everywhere."Although Wilkerson set the exspiration date of this prophecy himself-"Next year" (i.e. 1993), he now says that this is future. This is a common expedient for those who assume themselves to be prophets, moving the goal-posts, hoping that others will forget by then.3.Financial crash in 2000?On April 15 of that year, Wilkerson prophesied this:"For the last two years I have been crying aloud, warning all who would hear that America is receiving her last call and that judgment is at the door. I did not say this was the end of the nation, but the last call before a financial crash.""I am writing this letter to you on saturday, April 15, 2000. I have on my desk the headlines in yesterday's paper:" BLACK FRIDAY-BIGGEST ONE DAY DROP IN HISTORY." The Dow fell 618 points-Nasdag fell 255. I do not know what is coming in the next sixty days. If the market bounces back, I can assure you it will be temporary. THE CRASH IS INEVITABLE-NOTHING CAN STOP IT."To his credit, he admitted his mistake after the non-event, after the market instead of crashing, reached a record high on May 22 of that year:Imformation gleaned from a artical wrote by Tom Riggle.Judge for your self! Glen.
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QUOTE (Glenn @ Apr 21 2009, 12:55 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72832
David has made some blunders!...
A true prophet of God will be correct 100% of the time.I have always been more interested in what the prophets in Scripture have to say than what the men of today have to say. This David Wilkerson person might be an OK person but I will put my trust in God's Word. It's not a good idea to call yourself a prophet and then prophecy falsely:Jer 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Jer 14:15 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed. Jer 14:16 And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them.
David has made some blunders!...
A true prophet of God will be correct 100% of the time.I have always been more interested in what the prophets in Scripture have to say than what the men of today have to say. This David Wilkerson person might be an OK person but I will put my trust in God's Word. It's not a good idea to call yourself a prophet and then prophecy falsely:Jer 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Jer 14:15 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed. Jer 14:16 And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them.
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QUOTE (tomwebster @ Apr 21 2009, 01:16 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72833
A true prophet of God will be correct 100% of the time.I have always been more interested in what the prophets in Scripture have to say than what the men of today have to say. This David Wilkerson person might be an OK person but I will put my trust in God's Word. It's not a good idea to call yourself a prophet and then prophecy falsely:Jer 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Jer 14:15 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed. Jer 14:16 And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them.
I agree with this approach, these modern day prophets fail the test of a true prophet every time.Glen.
A true prophet of God will be correct 100% of the time.I have always been more interested in what the prophets in Scripture have to say than what the men of today have to say. This David Wilkerson person might be an OK person but I will put my trust in God's Word. It's not a good idea to call yourself a prophet and then prophecy falsely:Jer 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Jer 14:15 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed. Jer 14:16 And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them.
I agree with this approach, these modern day prophets fail the test of a true prophet every time.Glen.
I have read some of Dave Wilkersons books and he does seem to be a godly man.I am wondering why he has got into the prophecy area but never discount someoneuntil I have asked myself these 2 questions
oes it go against anything the bible has said?Has his prophecies come true in the past?From a previous poster it sounds like his prophecies have not been 100% accurate...
oes it go against anything the bible has said?Has his prophecies come true in the past?From a previous poster it sounds like his prophecies have not been 100% accurate...I am not a defender of Wikerson yet would point out he has never made claim to a firm timeline for his predictions. He may be correct but his timing is off. (eg:I have had recurring visions of over 1,000 fires burning at one time here in New York City) If this was to happen next year would his prediction be correct? I would say yes.Does anybody remember the LA riots a few years ago? A thousand fires burning , destruction rampant , all because of a (correct) verdict handed down by a jury trial . Remember ??What if in the future something even more drastic should happen to our economy , What if something happened to the popular President , what if he was removed because of citizenship issues. Do you think there could be riots and burning in New York ? I do.I have never trusted one split second of my future on anyone who prophesies from the pulpit, or on this forum , or on TV , or the latest best selling book. Yet I will admit Wilkersons writings "The Vision" was nearly impossible to even imagine in 1974 when it was written. In modern day it is no longer hard to see the possibilities.I do not have a dog in this fight , but I find it quite interesting this forum is quick to denounce the likes of Wilkerson , yet at the same time there is endless "personal prophetic" content posted here without being questioned. Many thanksMartin W.
QUOTE (tomwebster @ Apr 21 2009, 01:16 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72833
A true prophet of God will be correct 100% of the time.I have always been more interested in what the prophets in Scripture have to say than what the men of today have to say. This David Wilkerson person might be an OK person but I will put my trust in God's Word. It's not a good idea to call yourself a prophet and then prophecy falsely:Jer 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Jer 14:15 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed. Jer 14:16 And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them.
I would agree Tom , and if somebody tries to bring me a prophetic revelation I ask for a track record of accuracy as well as specific details that can be observed and proven. I have found 99% of the time the response is complete silence. Most of these so called "revelations" are based on the 'emotions of the day' of the speaker and have no basis in factual evidence. The modern Christian world is overflowing with such emotional prophetic nonsense , what a mess.I find it quite interesting a few months ago a person posting here claimed to have Jesus in their living room and was about to reveal a series of messages to us here on the forum. I asked a couple of specific questions to evaluate and discern the origins and accuracy of the prophetic message and I was promply warned by a moderator to stop such inquiries or I would be banned from this forum. I would expect true prophetic revelation would stand up to questioning. If we cannot question , how can we discern ??Martin W.
A true prophet of God will be correct 100% of the time.I have always been more interested in what the prophets in Scripture have to say than what the men of today have to say. This David Wilkerson person might be an OK person but I will put my trust in God's Word. It's not a good idea to call yourself a prophet and then prophecy falsely:Jer 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Jer 14:15 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed. Jer 14:16 And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them.
I would agree Tom , and if somebody tries to bring me a prophetic revelation I ask for a track record of accuracy as well as specific details that can be observed and proven. I have found 99% of the time the response is complete silence. Most of these so called "revelations" are based on the 'emotions of the day' of the speaker and have no basis in factual evidence. The modern Christian world is overflowing with such emotional prophetic nonsense , what a mess.I find it quite interesting a few months ago a person posting here claimed to have Jesus in their living room and was about to reveal a series of messages to us here on the forum. I asked a couple of specific questions to evaluate and discern the origins and accuracy of the prophetic message and I was promply warned by a moderator to stop such inquiries or I would be banned from this forum. I would expect true prophetic revelation would stand up to questioning. If we cannot question , how can we discern ??Martin W.
I would like everybody to clearly understand that in modern day there are revelations given to Christians (and Jews) that stand up 100% to the testing of a true prophet.The details will turn out to be documentable , observable and provable and pass the test. It can happen , and does happen , although quite rare.The problem we have in modern day Christianity is that someone will confuse personal emotional feelings with Spiritual Revelation and run with it as though it were the genuine article.Our Lord can reach each of us when we pray , or when we read our bibles , or any time he wishes. Most often it is for our own edification or teaching. Do not confuse such personal revelations with those to be applied to the rest of the Christian Church. Do not confuse your daily emotions with Holy Spirit. They are different.If you should ever be given information intended to be applied to The Church , or to others , the Lord will provide the neccesary evidence you require to prove it. Both to yourself and to the recipients.Be mature and keep an eye out for the real thing.Best regardsMartin W.
If you are trying to stir up new interest why not post some of the highlights like I mentioned earlier. That way you may get some response. -- Martin W.-- I understand where you were coming from, but I was focused on this current prediction using, to start with at least, the observations I listed in my initial post. It was by no means meant to be the only criteria.Previous predictions should absolutely carry great weight. As mentioned here by others, a true prophet is correct 100% of the time.Being wrong in the past does not automatically preclude you from being of use to God in the future. It does however mean that what you say should be explored with a larger magifying glass.It's the observations I listed in my initial post which gave me pause enough to consider this prophesy in a more serious light. By no means automatic validity, but a deeper consideration.
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So no one has heard of this?No one has any real serious thought on this?
Hello Polar Rev 19:10 (last part) For the testimony of Jesus is the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY. In other words, Jesus is saying that all prophecy surrounds HIM and what HE HAS WRITTEN. This HE SENDS by various messengers. HE MAKES IT COME TRUE. I will tell you the message Jesus Christ has sent me with that HE SPOKE DIRECTLY TO ME. YOU WILL SEE IT COMETO LIFE HERE SOON> amen The tribulation is coming through the SEED of ISHMAEL. (quoted straight from God's mouth to me to tell everyone) OUR LORD IS COMING to finish up prophecy and to bring inthe New earth and New Heaven and set up His Kingdom. My direct command from our Lord is to tell everyone that He the Lord Jesus Himselfis sending the Seed of Ishmael upon the Land just as the bible speaks it, to punish the people and to bring in the Son of Perdition and to remove himat the end of the 1260 days He has been allowed into the Temple. These are the things coming that will bring our Lord and He is coming. Vickie
So no one has heard of this?No one has any real serious thought on this?
Hello Polar Rev 19:10 (last part) For the testimony of Jesus is the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY. In other words, Jesus is saying that all prophecy surrounds HIM and what HE HAS WRITTEN. This HE SENDS by various messengers. HE MAKES IT COME TRUE. I will tell you the message Jesus Christ has sent me with that HE SPOKE DIRECTLY TO ME. YOU WILL SEE IT COMETO LIFE HERE SOON> amen The tribulation is coming through the SEED of ISHMAEL. (quoted straight from God's mouth to me to tell everyone) OUR LORD IS COMING to finish up prophecy and to bring inthe New earth and New Heaven and set up His Kingdom. My direct command from our Lord is to tell everyone that He the Lord Jesus Himselfis sending the Seed of Ishmael upon the Land just as the bible speaks it, to punish the people and to bring in the Son of Perdition and to remove himat the end of the 1260 days He has been allowed into the Temple. These are the things coming that will bring our Lord and He is coming. Vickie
Hi PolarI do not know if we are on the same wavelength on the Wilkerson issue. I also confess not being up to date on what Wilkerson is saying or doing lately.However since I read his book "The vision" it has always remained in the back of my mind and every few years when some major event happens in the world I tend to put a check mark beside what he wrote all those years ago.Another thing that has always stood out to me was that (in his book) he indicated==he did not want to write the book==he had no personal motive==he was not trying to make predictions==he did not know why he was given the vision==he wrote the book saying "This is what was in the vision" and did not attempt to add to it==he said the readers and history will answer the questions (or not)Maybe at this point in life he sees most of these thing happening and has now started bringing it up again with more emphasis on it being prophetic.Like I said , I am not current on what he is doing now , so I am just guessing. Makes me want to dig out my old book and read it again. His predictions have always been something I held at arms length ..... but I have not been able to completely disregard it either. We live in interesting times.ThanksMartin W.
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Hello Polar Rev 19:10 (last part) For the testimony of Jesus is the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY. In other words, Jesus is saying that all prophecy surrounds HIM and what HE HAS WRITTEN. This HE SENDS by various messengers. HE MAKES IT COME TRUE. I will tell you the message Jesus Christ has sent me with that HE SPOKE DIRECTLY TO ME. YOU WILL SEE IT COMETO LIFE HERE SOON> amen The tribulation is coming through the SEED of ISHMAEL. (quoted straight from God's mouth to me to tell everyone) OUR LORD IS COMING to finish up prophecy and to bring inthe New earth and New Heaven and set up His Kingdom. My direct command from our Lord is to tell everyone that He the Lord Jesus Himselfis sending the Seed of Ishmael upon the Land just as the bible speaks it, to punish the people and to bring in the Son of Perdition and to remove himat the end of the 1260 days He has been allowed into the Temple. These are the things coming that will bring our Lord and He is coming. Vickie
Hi VickiMost of this stuff is gleaned out of basic prophecy easily found in the Bible.I sounds like you claim to have some additional (??Personal revelation ??) to add to it. Are you able to explain? It would be much appreciated if you could provide more info.Many thanksMartin W.
Hello Polar Rev 19:10 (last part) For the testimony of Jesus is the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY. In other words, Jesus is saying that all prophecy surrounds HIM and what HE HAS WRITTEN. This HE SENDS by various messengers. HE MAKES IT COME TRUE. I will tell you the message Jesus Christ has sent me with that HE SPOKE DIRECTLY TO ME. YOU WILL SEE IT COMETO LIFE HERE SOON> amen The tribulation is coming through the SEED of ISHMAEL. (quoted straight from God's mouth to me to tell everyone) OUR LORD IS COMING to finish up prophecy and to bring inthe New earth and New Heaven and set up His Kingdom. My direct command from our Lord is to tell everyone that He the Lord Jesus Himselfis sending the Seed of Ishmael upon the Land just as the bible speaks it, to punish the people and to bring in the Son of Perdition and to remove himat the end of the 1260 days He has been allowed into the Temple. These are the things coming that will bring our Lord and He is coming. Vickie
Hi VickiMost of this stuff is gleaned out of basic prophecy easily found in the Bible.I sounds like you claim to have some additional (??Personal revelation ??) to add to it. Are you able to explain? It would be much appreciated if you could provide more info.Many thanksMartin W.
Just a quick reply for now Polar.Somewhere I have an original copy of Wilkerson's book "The Vision" from back in 1973 ? 1977?Some hard to imagine predictions were written back then.They are no longer hard to imagine in modern day.You are correct Polar , David did not want to publish the information , and yes he is a man with a good track record and stood to gain nothing from going public with "The Vision". When he sold his book it was for not much more than the printing costs.I Started out reading it as a carefull sceptic way back then , But now almost 40 years later I have to admit I have seen a fulfillment of many (not all) of the predictions. Some are still future but look more possible than ever.I am not positive , but I think it may be published free online somewhere , google .... Wilkerson "The Vision" .... you should find it.If you can find it , you should paste some of the highlights here for others to read and we can discuss it. Many thanks.Best regardsMartin W. I did not thank you for this ^^^^^ post earlier, Martin.I meant to do just that but the week got away from me.I thank you for your input. Sincerely.
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