Do you belong to "the [true] Church" (1 Tim 3:15)?, if so, how do you prove it?

Cooper · Feb 29, 2020

RogerDC said:
Unlike the OT, I can't find anything in the NT that prohibits Christians from having sex with animals. Does that mean bestiality is lawful for Christians?

Read about licentiousness.

Cooper · Feb 29, 2020

RogerDC said:
No mention of lying, stealing or murder in that letter. So, according to your logic, a Christian is free to do those things.

The Ten Commandments are for all people down the ages, but then you know that of course.

RogerDC · Mar 1, 2020

Cooper said:
Read about licentiousness.

Who decides what "licentiousness" is?

RogerDC · Mar 1, 2020

Marymog said:
That is a fascinating theory since the doctrines of ALL churches contradict each other. Since they all contradict each other that means that there is a "corrupting influence" some churches since they all can't have the Truth.

Judging by the results of Sola Scriptura, chaos and confusion represent the Truth.

RogerDC · Mar 1, 2020

r1xlx said:
I'm thinking of starting my own church group but all members would have to accept the Bible 100%!

Your starting point is wrong from the get-go, so anything that proceeds from that point will be wrong. The Church is the starting point of Christianity, not the Scriptures (Eph 4:4-16).

RogerDC · Mar 1, 2020

Cooper said:
Many people believe Jesus is the rock on which the church is built, not a man called Peter.

Peter is "this rock" in Matt 16:18. Even many Protestant theologians admit that.

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Catholics believe in a work based salvation

No, they don't - Catholics believe faith + works saves, which is what James 2 says - "a man is justified by works and not be faith alone" and "faith without works is dead". Faith alone doesn't save. Works alone don't save. The "faith + works" formula is reiterated in Rev 12:17, 14:12.

when in reality works are only the outward evidence of our inner faith.

Call it what you like, but "a man is justified by works and not by faith alone" and "faith without works is dead". Works are simply keeping the commandments of God. If you don't strive to keep the commandments, your hope of salvation is on thin ice.

Be a good person and you will go to heaven they say. That is so wrong, but that is Catholicism for you.

That depends on what "good" is. Catholicism says salvation comes through faith in Jesus and keeping the commandments (keeping the commandments is what James 2 means by "works"). Works alone don't save.

RogerDC · Mar 1, 2020

Cooper said:
I rather think Jesus would look on the heart and the persons reason for burning candles.

I rather think Jesus has no objection at all to anyone burning candles.

mjrhealth · Mar 2, 2020

RogerDC said:
I rather think Jesus has no objection at all to anyone burning candles.

Doesnt make it right.

mjrhealth · Mar 2, 2020

RogerDC said:
Your starting point is wrong from the get-go, so anything that proceeds from that point will be wrong. The Church is the starting point of Christianity, not the Scriptures (Eph 4:4-16).

Actually Christ is the starting point of Christianity, that is why its called Christianity and not churchianity.

r1xlx · Mar 2, 2020

A Catholic is brainwashed from birth to worship Ishtar and Tammuz and nothing a Christian can say will get through to most of them as they follow Satan to their destruction.

Philip James · Mar 2, 2020

r1xlx said:
A Catholic is brainwashed from birth to worship Ishtar and Tammuz and nothing a Christian can say will get through to most of them as they follow Satan to their destruction.

Could you be more offensive? Don't hold back now...

Cooper · Mar 2, 2020

RogerDC said:
Who decides what "licentiousness" is?

Forget you ever knew me. Bye.

mjrhealth · Mar 2, 2020

Philip James said:
Could you be more offensive? Don't hold back now...

I wouldnt worry about it, many religiuos people eill be offended when Christ returns

Marymog · Mar 2, 2020

Cooper said:
You find graven images acceptable and work your way around it by saying we should not worship them, despite the 2nd commandment forbidding even the making of them.

Not true....Thank you for your time.

Marymog · Mar 2, 2020

Cooper said:
Many people believe Jesus is the rock on which the church is built, not a man called Peter.

Catholics believe in a work based salvation, when in reality works are only the outward evidence of our inner faith. Be a good person and you will go to heaven they say. That is so wrong, but that is Catholicism for you.

I was not going to get involved, so will end here.

What you have said is not true.....Thank you for your time.

Marymog · Mar 2, 2020

r1xlx said:
Marymog, I'm quite sure your friend Satan is delighted that you continue to revere, worship and petition the statues of ISHTAR and TAMMUZ that litter your pagan shrines, churches and cathedrals.
Ishtar is also Venus
The fact that you are unable to grasp that when GOD said make no graven images He meant idols as you Catholics worship not just paintings or pictures of family for our amusement and decoration.
You call your priests 'father' despite Jesus saying call no-one father? So every time you speak to a priest you disobey Jesus.
Your priest claims he can forgive your sins but no-one can do that.
Your priests tells you to drink blood despite GOD and later Paul saying keep away from blood.
Your priest offers cakes to his sun-god Baal and you eat that 'FOOD DEDICATED TO AN IDOL!'
Your priest holds services on Sun-day not the Sabbath to worship the sun-god.
PAGAN SUN WORSHIP AND CATHOLICISM - LA VERITA - THE TRUTH
Queen of Heaven (antiquity) - Wikipedia

My friend Satan?? Wow....that's a great way to start a conversation.

Catholics worship paintings? A complete lie.

You call NO ONE father???

Paul also said "Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? How does that passage work with your theory?

I will refrain from debunking your other lies.

Marymog · Mar 2, 2020

mjrhealth said:
Doesnt make it right.

Is burning candles wrong?? What say you about Revelation 8:4?

Marymog · Mar 2, 2020

RogerDC said:
I heard that the Pope sacrifices a human every morning and then eats his heart for breakfast. Even worse, I know for a FACT that some Catholics BURN CANDLES in their Churches!!!

OMG....Burn candles in their Churches???? Horrendous!!!!

mjrhealth · Mar 2, 2020

Marymog said:
Is burning candles wrong?? What say you about Revelation 8:4?

Still defending yor religion. i never said it was wrong neither did i say it was right, mens traditions, serves no man any purpose. Just what you do.

r1xlx · Mar 2, 2020

Philip James said:
Could you be more offensive? Don't hold back now...

Jesus called the chief priests 'Offspring of vipers!' so you call him offensive too!
You Catholics will stop at nothing to please Satan.

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