Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

ATP, the Messiah, Jesus, is cut off in the midst of the final week.
Please find attached a PDF doc on Daniel 9 which clearly explains both prophetically and historically why Daniel is purely a Messianic prophecy, and has nothing to do with the Antichrist.View attachment 362

brakelite said:

ATP, the Messiah, Jesus, is cut off in the midst of the final week.
Please find attached a PDF doc on Daniel 9 which clearly explains both prophetically and historically why Daniel is purely a Messianic prophecy, and has nothing to do with the Antichrist.

Daniel 9 Pstr Bohr.pdf

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Any time someone says "clearly" I know what they're saying is their conclusion and it is anything but "clear" in the text.

Saying Jesus was the midpoint abomination is a Preterist viewpoint.

The Bible never states that Jesus is cut off in the midst of the final week.
Dan 9:26 Then after the sixty- two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing,

It only says AFTER.
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So what comes at the end of the sixty-two 'sevens'?

,,,until Messiah the Prince - which is not defined.

Generally this is understood as Jesus' First Advent and some versions add verbiage such as "comes" to point this out.

There are three ways in which the Messiah Prince can be said to have arrived:

1. His Birth
2. The start of His Ministry
3. His arrival at Jerusalem the week before His Crucifixion.

The reason people in Jerusalem during the time of John the Baptist were on fire for the Gospel is because they were looking forward to a savior based on prophecy just like this. They just did not understand that the Servant Messiah whom Jesus was, was they King they were looking for
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Whichever is chosen (and for whatever reasons - I favor the third as Jesus remarked that the rocks would sing out if the people hadn't) - this concludes the sixty-two 'sevens'.
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Gabriel lists three events which come after the sixty-two 'sevens':

1. after the sixty- two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing,
2. the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.
3. (the) end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war.

These events as described are known to us as:

1. Jesus' crucifixion
2. The destruction of the city and the sanctuary during the First Jewish Revolt
3. War as a continual state of man until "the end"

Now the end does not come with a flood of water - because God promised not to flood the earth again.
Rather than have the end come with a flood, the language Gabriel uses can be understood to come as a flood.
Thus, "flood" is a figure of speech noting that it is rapid, messy, and sweeps everything before it carrying it along with it.

• So no matter which of the three aspects of Jesus' First Advent satisfies the conclusion of the sixty-two 'sevens' - His Crucifixion happens after it.
• So too does the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70.
• So too does war go on in a perpetual state until the end.

That last aspect is like the broad overview of the end of the Nebuchadnezzar statue in Daniel chapter 2.
In parallel construction then, verse 27 gives us the detailed portion which ALSO leads up to the end!

So there are two "ends" in Daniel 9:24-27: the broad overview and the detailed one 'seven'.
The one 'seven' is moved to the end of the state of perpetual war we find ourselves in today!

Thus - the one 'seven' - which is not broken, but only punctuated at its midpoint with the abomination(s) - has yet to begin.
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What Gabriel has done, is to interject a gap in time between the seven and sixty-two 'sevens' seperating those joined together segments away from the one 'seven' which leads up to the end of war and thus the entire Age of Man's rule over the earth (which later we find is at Armageddon as revealed in Revelation).

The Preterist view is wrong; anything but clear, and not supported by the Bible.
The gap in Daniel 9:26-27 can be visualized as such:

My view is not preterist. And we do not need to rely on guesswork as to when the end of the 70 weeks is...history and the gospels combine to give us the definitive answer. It is clear.
The 69 weeks finishes at the anointing of the Messiah...His baptism. This took place in 27AD. He then confirmed the covenant with many for one week. 27ad to 34ad. Thus the 70 weeks finishes at 34ad. Jesus ministered in person to Israel for 3 and 1/2 years, then through His disciples for the final 3 and 1/2 years, making the total of 7 years...the final week. In the midst f that final week, He was cut off, causing the sacrifice and oblation to cease. Every ritual after that time was meaningless.

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By the way, every date in the above graph can be verified by both history and scripture...that is what makes that particular Messianic prophecy so compelling...and proves beyond ANY shadow of doubt, the Messiah as being none other than Jesus. To change, place gaps in where they don't belong, is to make a nonsense of the entire prophecy.

Well certainly Christ was cut off in the middle of the last week; I continue to be undecided if the full week concluded with the stoning of Stephen or if there is 3 1/2 years left to be fulfilled. All we see in Revelation is 3 1/2 years and I'm not sure how that fits.

Saint said:

Well certainly Christ was cut off in the middle of the last week; I continue to be undecided if the full week concluded with the stoning of Stephen or if there is 3 1/2 years left to be fulfilled. All we see in Revelation is 3 1/2 years and I'm not sure how that fits.

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Time is prophetic in Revelation and the 3 1/2 "prophetic years", which are 1260 "prophetic days", or 1260 "literal years". Same applies to the 42 months, Times Time and Half a Time, etc. There is absolutely no other prophecy in all of Scripture whose stated commencement and expiration period is interrupted by a gap. Hope that helps you, friend.

Phoneman777 said:

There is absolutely no other prophecy in all of Scripture whose stated commencement and expiration period is interrupted by a gap.

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Absolutely?

Isaiah 61:2 has a gap of two thousand years in the middle of one sentence.

Has war ceased?
If yes, then the end of the one 'seven' has come.
If not, then the one 'seven' has not come.

Marcus O'Reillius said:

Any time someone says "clearly" I know what they're saying is their conclusion and it is anything but "clear" in the text.

Saying Jesus was the midpoint abomination is a Preterist viewpoint.

The Bible never states that Jesus is cut off in the midst of the final week.
Dan 9:26 Then after the sixty- two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing,

It only says AFTER.
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So what comes at the end of the sixty-two 'sevens'?

,,,until Messiah the Prince - which is not defined.

Generally this is understood as Jesus' First Advent and some versions add verbiage such as "comes" to point this out.

There are three ways in which the Messiah Prince can be said to have arrived:

1. His Birth
2. The start of His Ministry
3. His arrival at Jerusalem the week before His Crucifixion.

The reason people in Jerusalem during the time of John the Baptist were on fire for the Gospel is because they were looking forward to a savior based on prophecy just like this. They just did not understand that the Servant Messiah whom Jesus was, was they King they were looking for
.
Whichever is chosen (and for whatever reasons - I favor the third as Jesus remarked that the rocks would sing out if the people hadn't) - this concludes the sixty-two 'sevens'.
_________________________________________

Gabriel lists three events which come after the sixty-two 'sevens':

1. after the sixty- two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing,
2. the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.
3. (the) end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war.

These events as described are known to us as:

1. Jesus' crucifixion
2. The destruction of the city and the sanctuary during the First Jewish Revolt
3. War as a continual state of man until "the end"

Now the end does not come with a flood of water - because God promised not to flood the earth again.
Rather than have the end come with a flood, the language Gabriel uses can be understood to come as a flood.
Thus, "flood" is a figure of speech noting that it is rapid, messy, and sweeps everything before it carrying it along with it.

• So no matter which of the three aspects of Jesus' First Advent satisfies the conclusion of the sixty-two 'sevens' - His Crucifixion happens after it.
• So too does the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70.
• So too does war go on in a perpetual state until the end.

That last aspect is like the broad overview of the end of the Nebuchadnezzar statue in Daniel chapter 2.
In parallel construction then, verse 27 gives us the detailed portion which ALSO leads up to the end!

So there are two "ends" in Daniel 9:24-27: the broad overview and the detailed one 'seven'.
The one 'seven' is moved to the end of the state of perpetual war we find ourselves in today!

Thus - the one 'seven' - which is not broken, but only punctuated at its midpoint with the abomination(s) - has yet to begin.
_____________________________

What Gabriel has done, is to interject a gap in time between the seven and sixty-two 'sevens' seperating those joined together segments away from the one 'seven' which leads up to the end of war and thus the entire Age of Man's rule over the earth (which later we find is at Armageddon as revealed in Revelation).

The Preterist view is wrong; anything but clear, and not supported by the Bible.
The gap in Daniel 9:26-27 can be visualized as such:

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The text says that after the 7 and 62 Messiah is to be cut off, and which week comes after the 69th? The 70th. He was cut off during the 70th week. Then, it says in the midst of the week the sacrifices and oblations cease, which can only point to the time of the crucifixion because Jesus was anointed Messiah at the end of the 69 week and then ministered for 3 1/2 years before dying. That's the middle of the 70th week.

Marcus O'Reillius said:

Absolutely?

Isaiah 61:2 has a gap of two thousand years in the middle of one sentence.

Has war ceased?
If yes, then the end of the one 'seven' has come.
If not, then the one 'seven' has not come.

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Not sure how Isaiah's prophecy lasts 2,000 years. Jesus proclaimed both the acceptable year of our Lord and warned of the day of His vengeance while He was here on Earth. No gap, just like there's none in Daniel.
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brakelite said:

My view is not preterist. And we do not need to rely on guesswork as to when the end of the 70 weeks is...history and the gospels combine to give us the definitive answer. It is clear.
The 69 weeks finishes at the anointing of the Messiah...His baptism. This took place in 27AD. He then confirmed the covenant with many for one week. 27ad to 34ad. Thus the 70 weeks finishes at 34ad. Jesus ministered in person to Israel for 3 and 1/2 years, then through His disciples for the final 3 and 1/2 years, making the total of 7 years...the final week. In the midst f that final week, He was cut off, causing the sacrifice and oblation to cease. Every ritual after that time was meaningless.

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Confusing Preterism with your graph is easily done if one is not fully acquainted with Historicism. It's too bad that people think the only schools of thought are Futurism and Preterism, both being Jesuit ideas which were discovered NOT by searching the Scriptures for truth, but by Jesuits who were searching the Scriptures to affirm their preconceived truth - that the Papacy was not the Antichrist, which the Protestant Historicists were teaching at the time.

Phoneman777 said:

The text says that after the 7 and 62 Messiah is to be cut off, and which week comes after the 69th? The 70th. He was cut off during the 70th week.

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The Bible doesn't say that.

The Bible doesn't say that Jesus was cut off during the one 'seven'.

The Bible only says Jesus was cut off after the sixty-two 'sevens'.

The Bible also says that after the sixty-two 'sevens' that the city and the sanctuary will be destroyed.

The Bible says that the people who destroy the city and the sanctuary (Roman - the base of the statue) determines who the ruler is who prevails a covenant that even starts the one 'seven'.

The Bible also says that war goes until the end of the seventy 'sevens'

War is still going on.

The one 'seven' has not yet begun.

And everyone is still trying to pin the tail on the donkey as to who the ruler is who prevails a covenant.

Jesus' covenant is good for the whole Church Age - it did not expire in the third decade of the first century.

brakelite said:

ATP, the Messiah, Jesus, is cut off in the midst of the final week.
Please find attached a PDF doc on Daniel 9 which clearly explains both prophetically and historically why Daniel is purely a Messianic prophecy, and has nothing to do with the Antichrist.

Daniel 9 Pstr Bohr.pdf

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I would think Daniel makes it clear as day. Jesus is cut off at the 483rd year, and Dan 9:27 is future...

Dan 9:25-26 NIV “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens (49 + 434).’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26After the sixty-two ‘sevens (483 years),’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.

Dan 9:27 NIV Peace Treaty

Dan 9:27 NIV He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Isa 28:15 NIV You boast, "We have entered into a covenant with death (Rev 6:8 NIV), with the realm of the dead we have made an agreement. When an overwhelming scourge sweeps by, it cannot touch us, for we have made a lie our refuge and falsehood our hiding place."

Isa 28:18 NIV Your covenant with death will be annulled (Rev 6:8 NIV); your agreement with the realm of the dead will not stand. When the overwhelming scourge sweeps by, you will be beaten down by it.

Isa 57:8-9 NIV Behind your doors and your doorposts you have put your pagan symbols. Forsaking me, you uncovered your bed, you climbed into it and opened it wide; you made a pact with those whose beds you love (Rev 6:8 NIV), and you looked with lust on their naked bodies. 9You went to Moleka with olive oil and increased your perfumes. You sent your ambassadors far away; you descended to the very realm of the dead!

Rev 6:2 NIV I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

Rev 6:8 NIV I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

Dan 9:27 NIV The Abomination of Desolation

Dan 9:27 NIV He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Matt 24:15 NIV "So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand--

2 Thess 2:3-4 NIV Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Saint said:

Well certainly Christ was cut off in the middle of the last week; I continue to be undecided if the full week concluded with the stoning of Stephen or if there is 3 1/2 years left to be fulfilled. All we see in Revelation is 3 1/2 years and I'm not sure how that fits.

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I would disagree there. Christ is cut off at the 483rd year. Dan 9:27 is future...

Dan 9:25-26 NIV “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens (49 + 434).’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26After the sixty-two ‘sevens (483 years),’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.

Peace Treaty

Dan 9:27 NIV He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Isa 28:15 NIV You boast, "We have entered into a covenant with death (Rev 6:8 NIV), with the realm of the dead we have made an agreement. When an overwhelming scourge sweeps by, it cannot touch us, for we have made a lie our refuge and falsehood our hiding place."

Isa 28:18 NIV Your covenant with death will be annulled (Rev 6:8 NIV); your agreement with the realm of the dead will not stand. When the overwhelming scourge sweeps by, you will be beaten down by it.

Isa 57:8-9 NIV Behind your doors and your doorposts you have put your pagan symbols. Forsaking me, you uncovered your bed, you climbed into it and opened it wide; you made a pact with those whose beds you love (Rev 6:8 NIV), and you looked with lust on their naked bodies. 9You went to Moleka with olive oil and increased your perfumes. You sent your ambassadors far away; you descended to the very realm of the dead!

Rev 6:2 NIV I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

Rev 6:8 NIV I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

The Abomination of Desolation

Dan 9:27 NIV He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Matt 24:15 NIV "So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand--

2 Thess 2:3-4 NIV Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Phoneman777 said:

No gap, just like there's none in Daniel.

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contradict / verb (used with object)
1. to assert the contrary or opposite of; deny directly and categorically.
2. to speak contrary to the assertions of: to contradict oneself.
3. (of an action or event) to imply a denial of: His way of life contradicts his stated principles.
4. Obsolete. to speak or declare against; oppose.

Dan 9:27 NIV He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Matt 24:15 NIV "So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand--

2 Thess 2:3-4 NIV Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Very good ATP.

Now what I want to know from our Preterist friends who say Jesus was the midpoint and Stephen's stoning was the end -

1. What is the hour, day, month and year date for Jesus' Baptism by John?
2. What is the day, month and year date for the Crucifixion?
3. And what hour, day, month, and year date did Stephen die?
4. Where did Jesus say His Covenant, which He made on the Cross, expired with Stephen?

Show us from the Bible that you know these dates so we can see that they are seven years long to the day.

Marcus O'Reillius said:

Very good ATP.

Now what I want to know from our Preterist friends who say Jesus was the midpoint and Stephen's stoning was the end -

1. What is the hour, day, month and year date for Jesus' Baptism by John?
2. What is the day, month and year date for the Crucifixion?
3. And what hour, day, month, and year date did Stephen die?
4. Where did Jesus say His Covenant, which He made on the Cross, expired with Stephen?

Show us from the Bible that you know these dates so we can see that they are seven years long to the day.

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I have already provided all that detail in the pdf doc posted previously. It links Daniel 9 with Daniel 8.the two time prophecies, the 70 weeks and 2300 days, begin at the same time. See why by reading. But don't expect the hour...that's just ridiculous. And e do not know the exact time of Stevens death. But the declaration and actions of the Israeli rulers at that event fulfills the final rejection of the message of the gospel for the nation...they were the rulers, on behalf of the nation they officially rejected their messiah, and thus concluded the close of the 70 week probation granted Israel by the Daniel prophecy. Th gospel was then offered to the Gentiles with the general persecution that ensued after Steven's death. The gospel then went to Antioch, and beyond.
There is far more evidence for the conclusion of the 70 weeks around 34ad than there is for a future 'one week' to come. There is no gap in the statue of Daniel 2...no gap in the 70 week prophecy...unless man places one there.

brakelite said:

But the declaration and actions of the Israeli rulers at that event fulfills the final rejection of the message of the gospel for the nation...they were the rulers, on behalf of the nation they officially rejected their messiah, and thus concluded the close of the 70 week probation granted Israel by the Daniel prophecy.

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No, that's not what Gabriel said in Daniel 9:27 would conclude the one 'seven'.
What you say "concluded" the seventy 'sevens' in no way satisfies the conditions God had set forth.

Gabriel told Daniel this:
...even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."
Now nothing was destroyed completely as it will when the Trumpets and Bowls (and I put it to you that those are the desolations that have been decreed - Dan 9:26) run their course.

You don't know when Jesus was crucified; no one does. Best guess is A.D. 31/32
You don't know when Stephen was stoned. Saying it's three and a half years later is a total fabrication of the history in Acts.

brakelite said:

There is far more evidence for the conclusion of the 70 weeks around 34ad than there is for a future 'one week' to come. There is no gap in the statue of Daniel 2...no gap in the 70 week prophecy...unless man places one there.

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Again, my Preterist friend, you have nothing to say it ended in A.D. 34.

Rome has not yet been defeated!
Even its decline and fall to the Northern Barbarians in A.D. 476 means it survived your arbitrary time frame by centuries.
Even then, it was not the fall of the Roman Empire! Just the Western Half! (Daniel 2 gives Rome two legs!)
The Eastern Half of the Roman Empire was the most stable country through the Middle Ages and the repository for the Church - indeed most of our Bible comes from that region.
The Western Half did not completely die, however; by A.D. 800, there was a Pope in Rome.
The Eastern Half also declined starting in 1095 and it fell to the satanic muslims in 1453.
However, by that time the Western Half had recovered, and with the influx of the retreating Eastern Half of the Roman Empire, it started its Renaissance.

Rome still goes on. We are Rome today.
Our whole culture, economics, military, government, even our way of building and entertainment is all very much Roman!

brakelite said:

There is no gap in the 70 week prophecy...unless man places one there.

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Gabriel put it there from God.

Gabriel lists three events which come after the sixty-two 'sevens':

1. after the sixty- two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing,
2. the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.
3. (the) end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war.

These events as described are known to us as:

1. Jesus' crucifixion
2. The destruction of the city and the sanctuary during the First Jewish Revolt
3. War as a continual state of man until "the end"

Now until you want to address the text, your declarative statements carry no water at all.

War continues until the end of the one 'seven'.
War has been a continual state of the affairs of man, and Rome has waged war continually too.
The United States of America has been at war for like 90% of our short history too.

When the last battle, Armageddon, has been won - then and only then will the statue of Nebuchadnezzar be demolished.
In its place, Jesus will reign over the earth, and we will reign in His Stead as Lieutenants.

That hasn't happened yet.

God spells out through Gabriel to Daniel a gap in time which allows the Church to grow.
The two thousand year history of the Church bypassing the Jews, and their Millennium peace can be found here:

Hosea 6:2 2 "He will revive us after two days;
He will raise us up on the third day,
That we may live before Him.

A proper day = thousand years may be made here.
(Saying 1260 days or 2300 days is 1260 years or 2300 years is not a proper relationship equation for prophecy.)

ATP said:

contradict / verb (used with object)
1. to assert the contrary or opposite of; deny directly and categorically.
2. to speak contrary to the assertions of: to contradict oneself.
3. (of an action or event) to imply a denial of: His way of life contradicts his stated principles.
4. Obsolete. to speak or declare against; oppose.

Dan 9:27 NIV He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Matt 24:15 NIV "So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand--

2 Thess 2:3-4 NIV Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

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I'm not following how this post proves a gap.

Marcus O'Reillius said:

Very good ATP.

Now what I want to know from our Preterist friends who say Jesus was the midpoint and Stephen's stoning was the end -

1. What is the hour, day, month and year date for Jesus' Baptism by John?
2. What is the day, month and year date for the Crucifixion?
3. And what hour, day, month, and year date did Stephen die?
4. Where did Jesus say His Covenant, which He made on the Cross, expired with Stephen?

Show us from the Bible that you know these dates so we can see that they are seven years long to the day.

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I'm actually a Historicist and teach and preach Historicism like the Protestant Reformers who were anti-Jesuit Preterist and anti-Jesuit Futurist, and arguably, the ECF.
Historicism teaches:

• Artaxerxes' decree in 457 B.C. begins the prophecy
• 483 years later in 27 A.D. when Tiberius Caesar, Herod the Tetrarch, and Pilate reigned simultaneously, Jesus was baptized (Luke 3 KJV) and began His ministry marking the beginning of the 70th week. The Syro-Macedonian calendar, for which Luke had an affinity, reflects these dates.
• After 3 1/2 years into the 70th Week came the crucifixion.
• The prophecy was "for your people and your holy city", which means the remaining 3 1/2 years must only have to do with the Jews and Jerusalem and that is why the disciples were instructed to not go to the Gentiles, but to the "lost sheep of the house of Israel". That 3 1/2 years ended when Stephen was stoned and Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles.

Confirmation and Expiration are two diff things. The covenant was confirmed for one week, first in the person of Jesus and then by those who heard Him (Hebrews 2:3 KJV) When you confirm a Friday appointment on Monday, the Monday confirmation does not change the Friday appointment and the Confirmation of the Covenant for 7 years, first when it "began to be spoken by the Lord and then was confirmed to us by them that heard Him" (Hebrews 2:3 KJV)