Covid 19... Not the main concern.

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Bobby Jo

Well-Known Member
Feb 5, 2019
8,041
3,778
113
United States
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
... have you noticed the lack of response ....

... as to whether there's a PRECEDENT for your defense of Dan. 9's "seven and sixty-two"? We're still waiting, but you've offered NO Scriptural or Societal citation. So do you concede there IS NO PRECEDENT, or do you continue to perpetuate that LIE?


Deceitful people are VERY GOOD AT CONVINCING WORDS, but UNRELIABLE at producing any substance.
Bobby Jo
 

quietthinker

Well-Known Member
May 4, 2018
11,793
7,733
113
FNQ
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
... as to whether there's a PRECEDENT for your defense of Dan. 9's "seven and sixty-two"? We're still waiting, but you've offered NO Scriptural or Societal citation. So do you concede there IS NO PRECEDENT, or do you continue to perpetuate that LIE?


Deceitful people are VERY GOOD AT CONVINCING WORDS, but UNRELIABLE at producing any substance.
Bobby Jo
I'm sorry BJ, straw men and smoke screens don't cut it!
 

Bobby Jo

Well-Known Member
Feb 5, 2019
8,041
3,778
113
United States
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
... straw men and smoke screens don't cut it!

Your refusal to answer whether the Dan. 9 "seven and sixty-two" has a Scriptural or Societal PRECEDENT "doesn't cut it".

You pretend to be smart, but can't answer if ~ a pair of shoes cost seven and sixty-two dollars?

We all see that you're a fake.
Bobby Jo
 

Justadude

Well-Known Member
Feb 25, 2020
1,099
405
113
Colorado
Faith
Agnostic
Country
United States
Pastor dies from COVID-19 — after claiming coronavirus was a ‘mark of the beast’ conspiracy

According to The Christian Post, Pastor Ronnie Hampton of the New Vision Community Church in Shreveport, Louisiana, has died of COVID-19 — after telling his followers that the virus was not a huge deal and suggesting that God was just testing the faithful.

“This virus that is out now, look at what it’s doing,” he said in a Facebook Live broadcast one week before his death on Wednesday. “It’s shutting down everything, which means that the physical connection of Christians is being ripped apart. We’re not able to fellowship. We’re not able to love each other. We’re not able to greet each other with a handshake or a hug. We’re not able to be in close proximity of each other. We’re not able to break bread, sit down and eat with each other because Caesar is mandating how we conduct ourselves using the pretext of this virus to be able to conduct our lives and run our lives for us.”

Hampton went on to offer conspiracy theories about coronavirus, suggesting that it was an excuse for the government to create a police state and implant microchips in the population.

“Now, here’s a theory,” said Hampton. “It was brought to my attention that this virus thing, people die from the flu more than they’ve died from this virus. In my opinion, death is death. I don’t care what it’s by. But I listened and they say well, it’s something that’s come up. And now everything is being shut down, borders are being closed, and they’re gonna come up with a vaccine because they are keeping everybody away from each other just so that they can install martial law.”

“They’re gonna come up with a vaccine and in that vaccine everybody is gonna have to take it … and inside of that vaccine there’s going to be some type of electronic computer device that’s gonna put some type of chip in you and maybe even have some mood, mind-altering circumstances,” Hampton continued. “And they’re saying that the chip would be the mark of the beast.”​

And now he's dead. From the coronavirus.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Giuliano

Justadude

Well-Known Member
Feb 25, 2020
1,099
405
113
Colorado
Faith
Agnostic
Country
United States
Jerry Falwell Jr. has been lying about his decision to urge Liberty U. students to come back to campus and ordering faculty to be on campus and keep open office hours.

‘He’s Going to Do Whatever He Wants’

Liberty University, meanwhile, has invited its students to return to the dorms, whatever their circumstances might be. Falwell has said this decision was in students’ best interests—that students would be better off if they returned to campus before the coronavirus spread—but that suggestion has met with exasperation by public health experts, state and local officials, and many residents of Lynchburg....

In the statement published by the university on Monday, March 23, Liberty said Falwell “has been consulting with medical professionals daily, including Dr. Jeffrey Hyman of Northwell Health, New York’s largest health care provider.”

On Wednesday, when I reached Dr. Hyman’s office for comment, an employee consulted with the doctor before speaking on his behalf and distancing Hyman from Falwell’s decision. “He himself has nothing to do with that,” the employee insisted...

...
In the same March 23 statement on Liberty’s site, Falwell claimed that he “received a favorable reaction” when he told Lynchburg’s city manager and mayor about his decision to allow students to return to the dorms. “They thanked us for making that decision,” Falwell said.

Contacted on Wednesday, Lynchburg City Manager Bonnie Svrcek disputed Falwell’s claim. “The city unequivocally does not agree with Falwell’s decision,” Svrcek wrote via email.​

Well, guess what happened next?

Liberty University Brings Back Its Students, and Coronavirus Fears, Too

As of Friday, Dr. Eppes said, nearly a dozen Liberty students were sick with symptoms that suggest Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus. Three were referred to local hospital centers for testing. Another eight were told to self-isolate.

“Liberty will be notifying the community as deemed appropriate and required by law,” Mr. Falwell said in an interview on Sunday when confronted with the numbers. He added that any student returning now to campus would be required to self-quarantine for 14 days.

“I can’t be sure what’s going on with individuals who are not being tested but who are advised to self-isolate,” said Kerry Gateley, the health director of the Central Virginia Health District, which covers Lynchburg. “I would assume that if clinicians were concerned enough about the possibility of Covid-19 disease to urge self-isolation that appropriate screening and testing would be arranged.”

Of the 1,900 students who initially returned last week to campus, Mr. Falwell said more than 800 had left. But he said he had “no idea” how many students had returned to off-campus housing.​

Junior better lawyer up.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Giuliano

Giuliano

Well-Known Member
Aug 4, 2019
5,978
3,676
113
Carlisle
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Jerry Falwell Jr. has been lying about his decision to urge Liberty U. students to come back to campus and ordering faculty to be on campus and keep open office hours.

‘He’s Going to Do Whatever He Wants’

Liberty University, meanwhile, has invited its students to return to the dorms, whatever their circumstances might be. Falwell has said this decision was in students’ best interests—that students would be better off if they returned to campus before the coronavirus spread—but that suggestion has met with exasperation by public health experts, state and local officials, and many residents of Lynchburg....

In the statement published by the university on Monday, March 23, Liberty said Falwell “has been consulting with medical professionals daily, including Dr. Jeffrey Hyman of Northwell Health, New York’s largest health care provider.”

On Wednesday, when I reached Dr. Hyman’s office for comment, an employee consulted with the doctor before speaking on his behalf and distancing Hyman from Falwell’s decision. “He himself has nothing to do with that,” the employee insisted...

...
In the same March 23 statement on Liberty’s site, Falwell claimed that he “received a favorable reaction” when he told Lynchburg’s city manager and mayor about his decision to allow students to return to the dorms. “They thanked us for making that decision,” Falwell said.

Contacted on Wednesday, Lynchburg City Manager Bonnie Svrcek disputed Falwell’s claim. “The city unequivocally does not agree with Falwell’s decision,” Svrcek wrote via email.​

Well, guess what happened next?

Liberty University Brings Back Its Students, and Coronavirus Fears, Too

As of Friday, Dr. Eppes said, nearly a dozen Liberty students were sick with symptoms that suggest Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus. Three were referred to local hospital centers for testing. Another eight were told to self-isolate.

“Liberty will be notifying the community as deemed appropriate and required by law,” Mr. Falwell said in an interview on Sunday when confronted with the numbers. He added that any student returning now to campus would be required to self-quarantine for 14 days.

“I can’t be sure what’s going on with individuals who are not being tested but who are advised to self-isolate,” said Kerry Gateley, the health director of the Central Virginia Health District, which covers Lynchburg. “I would assume that if clinicians were concerned enough about the possibility of Covid-19 disease to urge self-isolation that appropriate screening and testing would be arranged.”

Of the 1,900 students who initially returned last week to campus, Mr. Falwell said more than 800 had left. But he said he had “no idea” how many students had returned to off-campus housing.​

Junior better lawyer up.
He will be sued, and he will lose. Reckless endangerment? Risking a catastrophe? I'm not a lawyer, but both seem possible crimes that would open the door for civil lawsuits. That was one of the dumbest stunts I've seen. The students come from all over the place. Odds were that at least one of them would be coming from an area where the virus was present. Odds were that one would have the virus and possibly without any symptoms. Odds are that the students who are quarantined now had contact with residents of Lynchburg and may have infected them.
 

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
6,517
1,543
113
74
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Jerry Falwell Jr. has been lying about his decision to urge Liberty U. students to come back to campus and ordering faculty to be on campus and keep open office hours.

‘He’s Going to Do Whatever He Wants’

Liberty University, meanwhile, has invited its students to return to the dorms, whatever their circumstances might be. Falwell has said this decision was in students’ best interests—that students would be better off if they returned to campus before the coronavirus spread—but that suggestion has met with exasperation by public health experts, state and local officials, and many residents of Lynchburg....

In the statement published by the university on Monday, March 23, Liberty said Falwell “has been consulting with medical professionals daily, including Dr. Jeffrey Hyman of Northwell Health, New York’s largest health care provider.”

On Wednesday, when I reached Dr. Hyman’s office for comment, an employee consulted with the doctor before speaking on his behalf and distancing Hyman from Falwell’s decision. “He himself has nothing to do with that,” the employee insisted...

...
In the same March 23 statement on Liberty’s site, Falwell claimed that he “received a favorable reaction” when he told Lynchburg’s city manager and mayor about his decision to allow students to return to the dorms. “They thanked us for making that decision,” Falwell said.

Contacted on Wednesday, Lynchburg City Manager Bonnie Svrcek disputed Falwell’s claim. “The city unequivocally does not agree with Falwell’s decision,” Svrcek wrote via email.​

Well, guess what happened next?

Liberty University Brings Back Its Students, and Coronavirus Fears, Too

As of Friday, Dr. Eppes said, nearly a dozen Liberty students were sick with symptoms that suggest Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus. Three were referred to local hospital centers for testing. Another eight were told to self-isolate.

“Liberty will be notifying the community as deemed appropriate and required by law,” Mr. Falwell said in an interview on Sunday when confronted with the numbers. He added that any student returning now to campus would be required to self-quarantine for 14 days.

“I can’t be sure what’s going on with individuals who are not being tested but who are advised to self-isolate,” said Kerry Gateley, the health director of the Central Virginia Health District, which covers Lynchburg. “I would assume that if clinicians were concerned enough about the possibility of Covid-19 disease to urge self-isolation that appropriate screening and testing would be arranged.”

Of the 1,900 students who initially returned last week to campus, Mr. Falwell said more than 800 had left. But he said he had “no idea” how many students had returned to off-campus housing.​

Junior better lawyer up.
We all better Lawyer up, and pay attention that the Bubonic Plaque wasn't selective of its victim either.
 

Justadude

Well-Known Member
Feb 25, 2020
1,099
405
113
Colorado
Faith
Agnostic
Country
United States
He will be sued, and he will lose. Reckless endangerment? Risking a catastrophe? I'm not a lawyer, but both seem possible crimes that would open the door for civil lawsuits. That was one of the dumbest stunts I've seen. The students come from all over the place. Odds were that at least one of them would be coming from an area where the virus was present. Odds were that one would have the virus and possibly without any symptoms. Odds are that the students who are quarantined now had contact with residents of Lynchburg and may have infected them.
Civil suits might just be the least of his worries. If documents show deliberate negligence on his part and someone ends up dying, he could be criminally charged.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Giuliano

Justadude

Well-Known Member
Feb 25, 2020
1,099
405
113
Colorado
Faith
Agnostic
Country
United States
Rodney Howard-Browne, Megachurch Pastor Who Flouted Virus Rules, Arrested

A controversial Florida pastor who refused to stop holding packed church services, in violation of coronavirus restrictions, was arrested Monday by a local sheriff who said he was putting his followers’ lives at risk.

Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was booked on misdemeanor charges of unlawful assembly and violation of public health rules after flouting social distancing orders at The River at Tampa Bay church.

Howard-Browne—an ally of President Donald Trump—has been an outspoken opponent of social distancing requirements, claiming his church has machines that can stop the coronavirus and vowing to personally cure the state of Florida himself.

“His reckless disregard for human life put hundreds of people in his congregation at risk, and thousands of residents who may interact with them this week, in danger,” Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister said at the press conference.​

Good.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Giuliano

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
6,517
1,543
113
74
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Wake up! The "Digital Dollar" is now being manifested and implemented through the Central Banks, which are in every country, except Iran and 2-3 others.
Yeah, free money now! But what's the "catch", later on down the road?

As I previously did say (edited):
"While the world is distracted and focussed on the "chaos" of concern, the Elite Bankers (Rockefeller etc.) will incrementaly advance and establish their NWO."

"Never let a crisis go to waste."

Trillion-Dollar Stimulus Jumpstarts Project To Issue Central Bank Currency On Ethereum
 
  • Like
Reactions: Reggie Belafonte

quietthinker

Well-Known Member
May 4, 2018
11,793
7,733
113
FNQ
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
I think only Christians believe those sorts of things are going to happen, which brings me back to my question of, why post this in a sub-forum for non-believers who are most likely to just see the OP as crazy? Are you trying to be persuasive? Are you trying to convert us?
To those who are perishing even the Good News sounds crazy. Does that mean they are not to hear it? Yes, they are to hear it so that non have an excuse. All are given the opportunity for life.
 

Brakelite

Well-Known Member
Feb 6, 2020
8,514
6,378
113
Melbourne
brakelite.wordpress.com
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
As I did interject into "Brakelite's" thinking, its NOT going to be about "religion", or a specific Religion, as to how most people think about that word!
No!! Its about "Save the Planet"!!

You think not??
LOL!! I dare anyone one of you, for whatever your "Religion" is, to say to your family, friends, neighbors, community and/or local government, that you refuse to take any action to "Save the Planet", and then to speak out against it!
You can't do that and you won't do it,...unless you are a Born Again Christian (John 3:3-8).

Why?
Ans. Saving the earth appeals to "the NATURAL man", and all of such want this world to go on forever.
1 Corinthians 2
[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

And what is one thing,THAT IS OF the Spirit/mind of God?
Ans. 2 Peter 3:10-13.

So then, ARE YOU "hasting unto the Day of God"?
If so, then you should be able to fully understand verses 12-13.
IF NOT, then you will comply with satan's program to "Save the Planet". After all, it is his only home, and he plans to defend it with everyone, who does not belong to Christ. Romans 8:8-9
IOWs, this failing world will be all that you will ever have. It has an eternal end of being destroyed, and so shall you!
2 Thessalonians 2:10....because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

If you ARE NOT looking for and hoping for a new heaven and a new earth, that God promised, then you are cherishing this old one, and therefore you do not love the things that are of God!!
May I suggest you do a little research into the Vatican current view on climate change? The pope has written and spoken often on the subject.... Using it to further his own global ambitions without a doubt. Is his climate concern serious,? Maybe. But you can bet your last dollar it takes a back seat to other more cherished agendas.
 

Prayer Warrior

Well-Known Member
Sep 20, 2018
5,789
5,776
113
U.S.A.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
And who would solve this when China would never allow any outside investigation into is bio-warfare program? Or allow a phony investigation like Iran did with its nuclear weapons.

China has been assiduously working at world domination for decades, and is ruthless in suppressing dissidents. So this *accident* was actually a blessing in disguise, since the West suddenly woke up and saw that all its pharmaceutical reliance was on China, when that was the last thing that should have happened. The same applied to the trade surpluses with the West (which Trump has been trying to address), with all the jobs and factories having been shipped to China, while feckless Western politicians played political games.
And in the process, Americans funded China's military buildup...while our own military needed widgets made only in China.

It's crazy!!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bobby Jo

Brakelite

Well-Known Member
Feb 6, 2020
8,514
6,378
113
Melbourne
brakelite.wordpress.com
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
to comply with the Banking Elite's agenda for a global NWO
You are concerned with the international corporate bankers, believing they are solely responsible for the coming NWO. Now I won't argue that they are certainly involved, but are they in charge,? Using the prophetic picture of the woman riding the beast, which character do you suppose, using biblical symbolism, represents religion, and which one corporations? Which one is in control? Who decides the direction of travel? And then ask, would that one who directs travel be able to do so without the cooporation and support of the other,?
 

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
6,517
1,543
113
74
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
You are concerned with the international corporate bankers, believing they are solely responsible for the coming NWO. Now I won't argue that they are certainly involved, but are they in charge,? Using the prophetic picture of the woman riding the beast, which character do you suppose, using biblical symbolism, represents religion, and which one corporations? Which one is in control? Who decides the direction of travel? And then ask, would that one who directs travel be able to do so without the cooporation and support of the other,?
If you recall, in the NT scriptures, there are only TWO "mothers". One "mother" is "fallen", the other is "heavenly Jerusalem", from above and is the mother of us all (who are of faith in Jesus).
Therefore MBtG is not anything of Christianity.

As to which one is in control, first you must read the KJV only!
Its not about MBtG "riding" the 10H beast, but rather that MBtG is being "carried" by the 10HB.
So, according to the KJV, the 10HB is in control.
Rev. 17
[7] And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

> And so ultimately, the 10 Horns of the Beast shall destroy MBtG.
[16] And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Q #1. Just exactly who is the Beast, and who are the 10H on the Beast!
The Beast with 10H is Europe, which is where the Roman Empire dispersed to.
Though the 10H have been shown in prophecy since Daniel, they will not be manifested as a power in the world until Jesus is close to His Glorious return in flaming fire.

Europe, aka the European Union, consists of 28 countries. Since Great Britain has left that Union, there are now 27.

Because of the "Coronavirus Pandemic", we all are now headed for a global economic collapse. World chaos shall reign, until the EU (the Beast) quickly reorganizes with 10 countries/horns.
Iows, out of those remaining, only 10 will stay in union with the EU. It shall be those 10 countries, with that Beast, who shall be the New Economic paradigm and power house for all the world (NWO).
Those 10H shall eventually burn MBtG with fire. Revelation 17:16

Q #2. Who exactly is MBtG?
Ans. The "fallen mother" Jerusalem, which now is. Galatians 4:25.
If it were not for the family of Rothchild and others of the Banking Elite, there wouldn't be the "nation" of Israel again, as of such that we know of today.
In God's understanding, it doesn't exist, but rather is a sham, being equal to a Gentile nation.
Dan. 9[26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it (MBtG) desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Q #3. With whom did the Messiah confirm the covenant with?
Ans. The disciples, being that of the new covenant.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Reggie Belafonte

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
6,517
1,543
113
74
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Does anyone here know of the 33 degree Mason Albert Pike and his letter of 1871 to another fellow Mason named Guiseppe Mazzini?
Though such a letter of 1871 appears to be evident as being real and historically true, it now has become conveniently misplaced. However, remnants of it are still available throughout the internet.
But of course, the historicists will say and do all kinds of things, in order to brand it all to be a "hoax"and/or a "conspiracy". But then again is it? You be the judge!

Since that is what the letter of Albert Pike is to many who read it, a conspiracy, I shall say this in contest to their denial:
Conspiracy theories are a two way street.
1. History reveals, that if the people say contrary to that which is said by "authority", then that is a conspiracy against "authority".
2. History reveals, that when "authority" says only that which they want the people to know, then that is a conspiracy against the people.

On August 15th 1871, Albert Pike writes a letter (now catalogued in the British Museum) to Guiseppe Mazzini in which he states the following:
“We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

Pike, who having been elected as Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry’s Southern Jurisdiction in 1859, was the most powerful Freemason in America. He would retain that post for 32 years until his death in 1891.
For more details about Albert Pike and his projections about three planned world wars, please see the site below-

https://www.thesiriusreport.com/geopolitics/historical-timeline-rothschild-dynasty-part-4/
 
  • Like
Reactions: Reggie Belafonte

Justadude

Well-Known Member
Feb 25, 2020
1,099
405
113
Colorado
Faith
Agnostic
Country
United States
This ad is from a Republican group, Republicans for the Rule of Law. :eek: