The concept of existence and perfection

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The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, so if I am a Biblical Christian then I am living and walking in the Spirit. Can you show me what your authority is for what you are saying? Not just you saying it, because that is just your own authority based on just your own opinion. To prove your point you need to provide observable evidence outside of yourself, which can be tested.
No, you're not. You guys a very annoying towards God. The message God gives only applies to the situation God gives it to. However, you widen all the answers beyond what he says. In doing this, you guys create your own Spirit. You regaurd the part as the whole, and then that false whole is your foundation. And since it's false, it is open to even more deceiving from Satan. So you guys aren't even founded by that original part. Rather, you guys are founded on something completly different.
 

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No, you're not. You guys a very annoying towards God. The message God gives only applies to the situation God gives it to. However, you widen all the answers beyond what he says. In doing this, you guys create your own Spirit. You regaurd the part as the whole, and then that false whole is your foundation. And since it's false, it is open to even more deceiving from Satan. So you guys aren't even founded by that original part. Rather, you guys are founded on something completely different.
Prove it.
 
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He wrote Ten Commandments on tablets of stone, not in shells. And those Ten Commandments are direct and clear and mean what they literally say. For example, if it says don't commit adultery, it means don't have an affair with some who isn't your wife. It is says don't steal, then you are not permitted to take anything that doesn't belong to you. If it says don't bear false witness, it means not to tell lies. Where it says not to take the Lord's name in vain, it means that you can't use God's name as a curse word. If you have ever done any of these things, even in a minor way, you have violated the Ten Commandments and you will be found guilty at the judgment. This is what the Bible says. If you don't believe that then you might feel free to lie, steal, use God's name as a curse word, view pornography, cheat on your wife, because if the Ten Commandments is not God's moral law, then anything goes. You might as well eat, drink and be merry because tomorrow you will die, and that will be it.
I've stopped reading everything but your topic sentence since everything beyond that is you rambling. You need to fix that. Anyways, my firest response counters this
 

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I did, you just don't want to believe it. Therefore nothing there since humans are their own god: they make their reality and then accept it as true
That's not proof. You are expecting me to accept it just because you said it. You haven't hit hard enough to ring the big bell at the top, so no cigar there!

You need to prove your words by an authoritative citation as your source.
 
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That's not proof. You are expecting me to accept it just because you said it. You haven't hit hard enough to ring the big bell at the top, so no cigar there!

You need to prove your words by an authoritative citation as your source.
Truth is its own citation, and that is what I have spoken. As for the bell, I hit it hard enough but you are just deaf.
 

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Truth is its own citation, and that is what I have spoken. As for the bell, I hit it hard enough but you are just deaf.
Sooo... You must be one of Kenneth Robin Copeland-Hood's bunch of merry men. He doesn't believe the Bible either, nor does he think the Ten Commandments apply to him, and he says that he is listening to the "holy spirit", but I wonder what spirit is encouraging him to be in the television evangelism industry just for the money?
 
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Sooo... You must be one of Kenneth Robin Copeland-Hood's bunch of merry men. He doesn't believe the Bible either, nor does he think the Ten Commandments apply to him, and he says that he is listening to the "holy spirit", but I wonder what spirit is encouraging him to be in the television evangelism industry just for the money?
What scripture did Jesus read. Tell me
 

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Truth in itself is proof. If you can't see it that's your problem. In all my other posts I've given many attempts at reasoning and those show the proof if you really want some simpler proof
But you have given no proof that what you are saying is truth because you can't prove it by authoritative citations from those whose words are proved to be true.
 

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What scripture did Jesus read. Tell me
He used the Septuagint to show that prophecies about Him are spread right through the Old Testament. He took two disciples through the Old Testament Scriptures at Emmaeus to show it, He often quoted Scripture when a prophecy about Him was fulfilled. Of course, you have to actually read he gospels to find that out.
 
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He used the Septuagint to show that prophecies about Him are spread right through the Old Testament. He took two disciples through the Old Testament Scriptures at Emmaeus to show it, He often quoted Scripture when a prophecy about Him was fulfilled. Of course, you have to actually read he gospels to find that out.
But these things obviously weren't the foundation. They were tools to establish relationship with weaker minds. So what Scripture were used to establish basis?
 

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On existence and perfection

The aim of this paper is to describe the concept of perfect as it pertains to humans. We will start by considering this question: what are christians growing to become.The concept of growth is undeniably there when it comes to a person’s walk with Christ, but is there an end to this growth? Indeed, there is. The end of the growth is what is required to meet the demand that creates a bar one can grow to. The demand in question is God’s demand that all men be perfect and sinless. Therefore, humans are growing towards perfection.

However, if humans were perfect in self then they would be equivalent with Jesus, and God only has one son. Therefore, Christ is an environment in which a perfect being can exist. That way, there can be a perfect being who exists on a lower level of self than Christ. This means that being is not Christ’s equal and that God still only has one son.

A concrete value for this being is unknown, but it is set apart from the rest of creation. All of creation is simulated to be like this being since God demands perfection from all. God maintains ranking though by gaging how much simulation is required for each being to reach perfection in this level of self. The less simulation one requires, the closer to real they are and the more they are acknowledged. However, the real thing is far, far greater than even the closest simulation. So any being who is real on this level of self is far, far greater than any of the other beings on this level of self. In fact, the gap is so wide that using Job as a unit of measure when it comes to the greatness of such a being is an insult to that being. This being is what is known as the image of Christ, the thing all Christians are growing towards.

This is the end of the concept of perfection and existence.

Paul's warning rings down clear through the centuries.

Colossians 2:8
"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
 
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I will repeat my question: how did Jesus use scripture as his basis? He mentioned it only as a means for people of lesser understanding to relate to what he was saying.
He used Scripture to show His listeners that they are sinners and that in the Judgment God will remember every sin they have ever committed and will judge them according to them. He will find them guilty and they will suffer the eternal penalty.
 
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He used Scripture to show His listeners that they are sinners and that in the Judgment God will remember every sin they have ever committed and will judge them according to them. He will find them guilty and they will suffer the eternal penalty.
You know, Ima take this into the other gear. What scripture does God use? what bible verses does he use?