Are You Free From The Law?

Eternally Grateful · Mar 31, 2020

Renniks said:
The Bible says the opposite. Read Galatians.

Amen, circumcision never saved anyone, Except of course the circumcision made without hands Col 2!

Cooper · Mar 31, 2020

Elihoenai said:
Romans 7:23 King James Version (KJV)

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

Therefore, if you continue to Sin and have the inclination to Sin, you remain under the Law.

That cannot be right, or Jesus' death would be in vain.
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Eternally Grateful · Mar 31, 2020

mjrhealth said:
You dont get it do you, until the law that Moses bought in, there was always sin, what we didnt have was judgement, what is it you cannot understand, A country without laws has no right to condemn a man for his deeds, a country with laws does, the problem is, without condemnation. the Law, Christ could never have gone to the Cross and never being able to Atone for our sins and we would have being permanently separated from God.

Now we have Love Grace and faith, if you want to be found guilty, go for the law, there are many sitting waiting to be condemend by it, why Ill never know.

even gentiles in the OT had to be saved by grace, they had to acknowledge their own sin. As paul said in romans 1. Even they know and understand that the sin they commit condemns them.

romans 1
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

they too are condemned because of their sin. law or no law. Because as paul also said, Those not having law yet still by practice keep the law. Because the law is in our heart.. We know right from wrong, because it is written in our DNA so to speak.

Cooper · Mar 31, 2020

Elihoenai said:
1 Chronicles 23:14 King James Version (KJV)

14 Now concerning Moses the man of God, his sons were named of the tribe of Levi.

The Law of Moses is the Law of Elohim/God.

The 613 Mitzvot laws were given by the god of one nation, their god is not the Father of Jesus. The Jews have their own god who opposes Jesus and we all know who the opposer is.
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Cooper · Mar 31, 2020

Elihoenai said:
Don't you believe in British Israelism?

You would need to define that.
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Cooper · Mar 31, 2020

Elihoenai said:
The Ten Commandments is the Mosaic Law.

You are confusing Gods law with Jewish civil law. Nobody outside of Israil has to keep their religious rites.
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Elihoenai · Mar 31, 2020

DNB said:
I abbreviated it just to summarize, no false representation intended.
I just think that both your brief queries, and explanation of things, are deceitful. Questions as such, require explanation, because theology is a big and diverse subject matter. It's like you're trying to be difficult, by remaining cryptic in everything that you ask. Which is usually a sign that you don't really understand what you're talking about.

By editing my post you behaved deceitfully and, therefore, misrepresented followers of Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ. You call me a Satanist and, to me, you appear to be the Satanist. Intelligent readers of these forums can judge for themselves who is doing the work of Elohim/God and the work of Devil/Satan.

Cooper · Mar 31, 2020

Elihoenai said:
Moses is a Levite. Therefore, you are saying that you are not part of the Commonwealth of Israel.

You cannot be of a particular Nation if you don't do the requirements that make you that Nation.

I have no wish to belong to the Jewish nation. I belong to the body of Christ and Him only.

Elihoenai · Mar 31, 2020

Heart2Soul said:
The Ten Commandments are God's Laws.
Written by the hand of God. The Mosaic Laws were written by Moses.

Deuteronomy 1:3 King James Version (KJV)

3 And it came to pass in the fortieth year, in the eleventh month, on the first day of the month, that Moses spake unto the children of Israel, according unto all that the Lord had given him in commandment unto them;

The Mosaic Laws are Elohim's/God's Laws.

Cooper · Mar 31, 2020

Elihoenai said:
Deuteronomy 1:3 King James Version (KJV)

3 And it came to pass in the fortieth year, in the eleventh month, on the first day of the month, that Moses spake unto the children of Israel, according unto all that the Lord had given him in commandment unto them;

The Mosaic Laws are Elohim's/God's Laws.

You wrote, "Moses spoke to the children of Israel." He never spoke to the children of Babylon, Persia, Rome or anyone else. The Israilites have their own religion and their teaching is in opposition to the teaching of Jesus.
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Cooper · Mar 31, 2020

Elihoenai said:
Deuteronomy 1:3 King James Version (KJV)

3 And it came to pass in the fortieth year, in the eleventh month, on the first day of the month, that Moses spake unto the children of Israel, according unto all that the Lord had given him in commandment unto them;

The Mosaic Laws are Elohim's/God's Laws.

They are the laws of your god, the god of the Jews.
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Eternally Grateful · Mar 31, 2020

Cooper said:
They are the laws of your god, the god of the Jews.
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what??

the ten commands are not applicable to gentiles? I can go out and murder, bear false witness, commit adultery, covet anyone I want to covet, Dishonor my parents etc etc.. Says who?

Elihoenai · Mar 31, 2020

Renniks said:
The Bible says the opposite. Read Galatians.

Acts 15:1 King James Version (KJV)

15 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

Renniks · Mar 31, 2020

Elihoenai said:
Acts 15:1 King James Version (KJV)

15 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

What is your point? It was false teaching!
N"then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

It could not be clearer. Circumsising is not needed for salvation.

Elihoenai · Mar 31, 2020

Paul Christensen said:
The reality is that we are all going to face the Judgment. The Scripture is clear concerning all of us: "It is appointed for man once to die, and after that the Judgment" (Hebrews 9:27), and "We must all give an account to God" (Hebrews 4:13), and "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad" (2 Corinthians 5:10).

Because no one has seen the Father at any time because He is a Spirit, then the Person in from of whom we are to appear is Jesus Christ. He will be the One who will judge the living and the dead, both converted and unconverted.

The basis on which every person, including you and me, will be the Ten Commandments which are the foundation of God's moral law. So we will all be judged on it, not all the components of the Mosaic Law which are basically extensions of the Commandments.

So, we will be judged on these basic questions. Have we:
* not loved God with all our hearts, minds and strength
* had imaginary images of God that makes us comfortable in our sins (idolatry)
* told lies
* taken anything that does not belong to us
* used God's name as a curse word
* looked at a person with lust or viewed pornography
* dishonoured our parents
* been jealous or envious because others have what we want

Our conscience will immediately tell us that we are all guilty of breaking many if not all the Ten Commandments and will be found guilty at the Judgment, because "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. There is none righteous, no, not one" (Romans 3:10,23).

So, my question to our readers: How are we going to avoid sentence being passed on us to be sent to God's eternal "prison" without the possibility of parole?

Matthew 1:21 King James Version (KJV)

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Indeed, in the Flesh you are condemned by the Law. True Discipleship saves a person from their Sins.

Renniks · Mar 31, 2020

Elihoenai said:
Deuteronomy 1:3 King James Version (KJV)

3 And it came to pass in the fortieth year, in the eleventh month, on the first day of the month, that Moses spake unto the children of Israel, according unto all that the Lord had given him in commandment unto them;

The Mosaic Laws are Elohim's/God's Laws.

So, you offer sacrifices at the temple? You stone people? You never trim your sideburns or beard?

Cooper · Mar 31, 2020

Elihoenai said:
Matthew 1:21 King James Version (KJV)

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Indeed, in the Flesh you are condemned by the Law. True Discipleship saves a person from their Sins.

Being a disciple of Jesus means following the Saviour of the World and His teaching, not Moses or his teaching.
Moses never entered the promised land and the devil fought for his body, depart from him.
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Truther · Mar 31, 2020

mjrhealth said:
You dont get it do you, until the law that Moses bought in, there was always sin, what we didnt have was judgement, what is it you cannot understand, A country without laws has no right to condemn a man for his deeds, a country with laws does, the problem is, without condemnation. the Law, Christ could never have gone to the Cross and never being able to Atone for our sins and we would have being permanently separated from God.

Now we have Love Grace and faith, if you want to be found guilty, go for the law, there are many sitting waiting to be condemend by it, why Ill never know.

The Law actually started in the garden.
Adam was not a Jew.
The Law increased per the increase of sin.
The Law judged man and still does.
Everyone is under the Law, written or unwritten, knowing it or not knowing it per Romans 3:19 .
Only Spirit led saints are not under it per Galatians 5:18 etc.

Waiting on him · Mar 31, 2020

The mossaic law is actually a good thing and if practiced is to our benefit, the problem begins when man tries to justify himself upon his obedience to it.

And I'm not referring to sacrificial laws.

Cooper · Mar 31, 2020

Waiting on him said:
The mossaic law is actually a good thing and if practiced is to our benefit, the problem begins when man tries to justify himself upon his obedience to it.

And I'm not referring to sacrificial laws.

You don't have to be Jewish to be a good citizen.
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