Current COVID-19 Death Rate: 8%

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For those that would like to know the absolute Bottom Line in this current Global Pandemic situation, the numbers you need to be focusing on are the Closed Cases, not the Active Cases.

You can see that number here...

Coronavirus Update (Live): 458,664 Cases and 20,799 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

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As of the time of this post, 15% of those that contract COVID-19 end up dead.

That is roughly 1 out of every 7 people.

Still think it's a 'hoax' or 'over hyped'?

Again, One must look at the Case Fatality Rate. The CFR is the ONLY accurate number we have to determine how dangerous this is. Until this Pandemic runs its course, all other numbers and calculations are just speculation.

Definitions of CFR

"Case fatality rate, also called case fatality ratio, in epidemiology, the proportion of people who die from a specified disease among all individuals diagnosed with the disease over a certain period of time."

Case fatality rate | epidemiology

In addition, there are many studies out there that show this to be a Bio-Weapon with an HIV insert. There are also so called 'studies' that claim it's not a Bio-Weapon.

Believe what you want, but it should be obvious by looking at the CFR who is telling us the Truth.

Good luck everyone.
You're numbers aren't accurate. They don't take into account the many who had it and were asymptomatic or those who didn't require hospitalization. When those cases are included the death rate drop drastically.
 

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Folks...

The point of this thread is to document the Closed Case Death Rate using known data. In other words, this is not about playing 'guessing games' with unknown numbers (e.g. open cases, those that were never tested but recovered without being documented or were asymptomatic, etc.).

What you choose to do with the CFR is up to you. Believe it or don't believe it. However, you should all be asking yourselves a very important question...

Why is the Case Fatality Rate (CFR) not shown on most charts we see in the news?

If the "conspiracy" was to "scare the daylights out of everyone", then why not post that data? I was really hoping someone here would post the CFR for the United States. Now there's a shocker for you. Since no one here bothered, how about we all do it together?

Here is the latest screen grab from Google...

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From Fox News...

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You will notice that the Closed Case Death Rate is not on those charts. We will now calculate it for the United States using the Google chart...

Confirmed Cases: 351,890
Recovered: 18,940
Deaths: 10,377


As I stated at the beginning of this thread, the Confirmed Cases mean nothing when it comes to determining exactly how many infected will die in the end.

To find the Death Rate we must add Recovered + Deaths and find the ratio between them. We will use the Google chart...

18,940 (Recovered) + 10,377 (Deaths) = 29,317 (Closed Cases)

Thus out of 29,317 people that were infected, 10,377 of them died.

What is the percentage?

35%!!!

That means currently, over 1/3 of those that are diagnosed with COVID-19 in the United States will die.

Does the phrase 'one third died' ring a bell?

o_O
 

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Only 2.95% SO FAR
(expect it to get lower)

"Here is the latest screen grab from Google...

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We will now calculate it for the United States using the Google chart...

Confirmed Cases: 351,890
Recovered: 18,940
Deaths: 10,377
"

CONFIRMED CASE: 351,890
Deaths. 10,377.

Percentage : 100x 10377/351890


Only 2.95% SO FAR.
(expect it to get lower)
 
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For those that would like to know the absolute Bottom Line in this current Global Pandemic situation, the numbers you need to be focusing on are the Closed Cases, not the Active Cases.

You can see that number here...

Coronavirus Update (Live): 458,664 Cases and 20,799 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

Look for this...

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As of the time of this post, 15% of those that contract COVID-19 end up dead.

That is roughly 1 out of every 7 people.

Still think it's a 'hoax' or 'over hyped'?

Again, One must look at the Case Fatality Rate. The CFR is the ONLY accurate number we have to determine how dangerous this is. Until this Pandemic runs its course, all other numbers and calculations are just speculation.

Definitions of CFR

"Case fatality rate, also called case fatality ratio, in epidemiology, the proportion of people who die from a specified disease among all individuals diagnosed with the disease over a certain period of time."

Case fatality rate | epidemiology

In addition, there are many studies out there that show this to be a Bio-Weapon with an HIV insert. There are also so called 'studies' that claim it's not a Bio-Weapon.

Believe what you want, but it should be obvious by looking at the CFR who is telling us the Truth.

Good luck everyone.
That is not how mortality rate is calculated. The recovered number is exponentially higher than the death rate and there is not enough time, or closed cases, to calculate an accurate death rate. Stop fostering a culture of fear.
 

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Folks...

The point of this thread is to document the Closed Case Death Rate using known data. In other words, this is not about playing 'guessing games' with unknown numbers (e.g. open cases, those that were never tested but recovered without being documented or were asymptomatic, etc.).

What you choose to do with the CFR is up to you. Believe it or don't believe it. However, you should all be asking yourselves a very important question...

Why is the Case Fatality Rate (CFR) not shown on most charts we see in the news?

If the "conspiracy" was to "scare the daylights out of everyone", then why not post that data? I was really hoping someone here would post the CFR for the United States. Now there's a shocker for you. Since no one here bothered, how about we all do it together?

Here is the latest screen grab from Google...

full


From Fox News...

full


You will notice that the Closed Case Death Rate is not on those charts. We will now calculate it for the United States using the Google chart...

Confirmed Cases: 351,890
Recovered: 18,940
Deaths: 10,377


As I stated at the beginning of this thread, the Confirmed Cases mean nothing when it comes to determining exactly how many infected will die in the end.

To find the Death Rate we must add Recovered + Deaths and find the ratio between them. We will use the Google chart...

18,940 (Recovered) + 10,377 (Deaths) = 29,317 (Closed Cases)

Thus out of 29,317 people that were infected, 10,377 of them died.

What is the percentage?

35%!!!

That means currently, over 1/3 of those that are diagnosed with COVID-19 in the United States will die.

Does the phrase 'one third died' ring a bell?

o_O

Your numbers are wrong. You absolutely have to count the confirmed cases. You said. "Thus out of 29,317 people that were infected, 10,377 of them died." ALL OF THE CONFIRMED CASES HAVE BEEN INFECTED.

Using your numbers the rate is 2.94% That's 3 of every 100.
 
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For those that would like to know the absolute Bottom Line in this current Global Pandemic situation, the numbers you need to be focusing on are the Closed Cases, not the Active Cases.

You can see that number here...

Coronavirus Update (Live): 458,664 Cases and 20,799 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

Look for this...

full


As of the time of this post, 15% of those that contract COVID-19 end up dead.

That is roughly 1 out of every 7 people.

Still think it's a 'hoax' or 'over hyped'?

Again, One must look at the Case Fatality Rate. The CFR is the ONLY accurate number we have to determine how dangerous this is. Until this Pandemic runs its course, all other numbers and calculations are just speculation.

Definitions of CFR

"Case fatality rate, also called case fatality ratio, in epidemiology, the proportion of people who die from a specified disease among all individuals diagnosed with the disease over a certain period of time."

Case fatality rate | epidemiology

In addition, there are many studies out there that show this to be a Bio-Weapon with an HIV insert. There are also so called 'studies' that claim it's not a Bio-Weapon.

Believe what you want, but it should be obvious by looking at the CFR who is telling us the Truth.

Good luck everyone.


Well last night I took care of 3 Covid 19 patients in our Emergency Department. So if you don't here from me in 2 weeks I am celebrating at the feet of our Lord Jesus Christ! Excited for whatever the will of our Lord is for me! :)
 
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Looks like I'm going to have to keep repeating the topic of this thread until some folks actually bother to read.

Again, the topic of this thread is to discuss and keep track of the Death Rate for CLOSED CASES only. In other words, cases that had an outcome.

If you're going to post statistics, please STAY ON TOPIC and post CLOSED CASE info.

Currently, the Closed Case Fatality Rate is at 21% for the World...

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This is obviously an incredibly high number which I was hoping would go down by now. It is still climbing, which means folks should not be downplaying this Crisis as lives are being lost because of it.

Isaiah 56:10
"His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber"


Think twice before posting. God is watching you.

Thank you.
 
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Looks like I'm going to have to keep repeating the topic of this thread until some folks actually bother to read.

Again, the topic of this thread is to discuss and keep track of the Death Rate for CLOSED CASES only. In other words, cases that had an outcome.

If you're going to post statistics, please STAY ON TOPIC and post CLOSED CASE info.

Currently, the Closed Case Fatality Rate is at 21% for the World...

full


This is obviously an incredibly high number which I was hoping would go down by now. It is still climbing, which means folks should not be downplaying this Crisis as lives are being lost because of it.

Isaiah 56:10
"His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber"


Think twice before posting. God is watching you.

Thank you.

Why are you scaring people? These number aren't accurate. These numbers only indicate people who have been tested, most of which have been hospitalized. They estimate that about 80% of the people who get the virus, get over it without any hospitalization, many don't even suffer symptoms. So, there are thousands of cases where people have recovered that you're not counting. Most of those in the numbers you're using are people who went to the hospital. Maybe 1 out of 4 who go to the hospital die, but the real death rate is about three percent.
 

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From the worldwide infection count, the percentage of deaths is 5.548%
 

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From the worldwide infection count, the percentage of deaths is 5.548%

As @Base12 suggests, @Dan57 has reported incorrect STATISTICS!

Using @Dan57 's numbers, if you calculate the number of "COMPLETIONS", -- you have 72.6k Deaths divided by 273.5k Recovered. This calculates to a 26.5% Mortality Rate, NOT his5.5%.

And per @Getitright 's observation, we don't know how many people have contracted the virus but have shown NO SYMPTOMS, which may reduce the Mortality Rate to much less than the calculated 26.5%, -- but I suspect @Getitright 's estimated 80% who show NO SYMPTOMS may be grossly exaggerated.


There's an old saying, "statistics don't lie, but liars statist", which suggests that statistics can be intentionally or unintentionally abused.
Bobby Jo
 
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We should be careful about believing the virus death rate. I have read that many who have died had the virus but died from other causes. I don't really trust government or media on this.
 
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We should be careful about the virus death rate. I have read that many who have died had the virus but died from other causes. I don't really trust government or media on this.

Ummmmmmm, statistics are only as accurate as the data. If China lies, if deaths are incorrectly attributed, etc., -- that's why statistics have a "confidence factor" --, because they're typically NEVER 100% accurate. But statistics DO provide a premise as to the contribution toward any issue, i.e., COVID-19 impact.

And of course, some information MUST be tempered against mass hysteria.
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We should be careful about the virus death rate. I have read that many who have died had the virus but died from other causes. I don't really trust government or media on this.
Statistics can be confusing. I heard someone discussing this. People with certain other health problems are more likely to die when they catch this virus. When they die, do you say the cause of death was their diabetes or the virus?
 

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Ummmmmmm, statistics are only as accurate as the data. If China lies, if deaths are incorrectly attributed, etc., -- that's why statistics have a "confidence factor" --, because they're typically NEVER 100% accurate. But statistics DO provide a premise as to the contribution toward any issue, i.e., COVID-19 impact.

And of course, some information MUST be tempered against mass hysteria.
Bobby Jo
There are some countries too which do very little testing. If people died of the virus, they wouldn't know it.
 

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Statistics can be confusing. I heard someone discussing this. People with certain other health problems are more likely to die when they catch this virus. When they die, do you say the cause of death was their diabetes or the virus?
Exactly!
 
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Bobby Jo said:
Ummmmmmm, statistics are only as accurate as the data. If China lies, if deaths are incorrectly attributed, etc., -- that's why statistics have a "confidence factor" --, because they're typically NEVER 100% accurate. But statistics DO provide a premise as to the contribution toward any issue, i.e., COVID-19 impact.

And of course, some information MUST be tempered against mass hysteria.
Bobby Jo

There are some countries too which do very little testing. If people died of the virus, they wouldn't know it.

Thus: "... statistics have a "confidence factor" --, because they're typically NEVER 100% accurate."​

Or putting it another way, we can only reflect the evidence we can acquire. And if that evidence is incomplete, then we can't include those calculations.

And yet, sometimes we have to repeat the same concepts over and over and over and over and ...


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Notice too that the mortality rate is about 1.6%

Good thinking. I believe that the mortality rate will turn out to be pretty close to that.

COVID-19 is a very poor candidate for a biological weapon. It does many things a biological weapon shouldn't do and it doesn't do many things a biological weapon should do.

No nation capable of doing that kind of work would build such a shoddy agent.
 
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