Jesus' Warning - Matt 24, Mark 13, Luke 21

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Tama

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I only know the day and the hour because it is behind us! Jesus did not know the day or the hour, but He knew the time frame--THIS generation.JesusReigns
His Kingdom is at HAND.. .The whole NT (and some places in OT) is talking about Kingdon of Heaven or His Kingdom. Read Daniel and Revelations....He (God) promissed Israel a Kingdom that will stand forever.. And That kingdom was to be a 'KINGDOM' when Jesus has won a right for it ON THE CROSS... He spoke of Kingdom as a 'salvation factor'. AS a rRIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO OBTAIN SALVATION thru HIS BLOOD ON THE CROSS.He spoke of KINGDOM as a time after DEVIL IS DEFEATED.. Which was after Christ's ressurection...
 

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His Kingdom is at HAND.. .The whole NT (and some places in OT) is talking about Kingdon of Heaven or His Kingdom. Read Daniel and Revelations....He (God) promissed Israel a Kingdom that will stand forever.. And That kingdom was to be a 'KINGDOM' when Jesus has won a right for it ON THE CROSS... He spoke of Kingdom as a 'salvation factor'. AS a rRIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO OBTAIN SALVATION thru HIS BLOOD ON THE CROSS.He spoke of KINGDOM as a time after DEVIL IS DEFEATED.. Which was after Christ's ressurection...
His kingdom WAS at hand in the first century (Matt. 3:2) and Jesus clearly said that it is not of THIS world (John 18:36) and that no flesh and blood can enter it (John 3:3, 5; 1 Cor. 15:50).Furthermore, the Devil is already defeated! "The God of peace will SOON crush Satan under YOUR feet" (Rom. 16:20). This was something that was to happen soon in Paul's day!JesusReigns
 

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We've all given you tons of scripture, but you are stuck in this false doctrine ditch. Please come out of it!Your being decieved!
How am I deceived? By the following?"YOU (My disciples whom I am now sending out to the lost sheep of Israel) will not have gone through the cities of Israel BEFORE the Son of Man COMES" (Mat. 10:23)."There are some standing HERE who will not taste death till THEY see the Son of Man COMING in His kingdom" (Mat. 16:28)."THIS generation will by no means pass away till ALL these things take place" (Mat. 24:34)."YOU (Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin) will see the Son of Man . . . COMING on the CLOUDS of heaven" (Mat. 26:64)."The COMING of the Lord is AT HAND" (James 5:8).Do not these verses clearly say what they say? I am taking them at their face value. How am I being deceived? Are not the words plain?Perhaps you are deceived by those who tell you that these verses have no relevance to the people to whom they were first spoken? JesusReigns
 

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His kingdom WAS at hand in the first century (Matt. 3:2) and Jesus clearly said that it is not of THIS world (John 18:36) and that no flesh and blood can enter it (John 3:3, 5; 1 Cor. 15:50).Furthermore, the Devil is already defeated! "The God of peace will SOON crush Satan under YOUR feet" (Rom. 16:20). This was something that was to happen soon in Paul's day!JesusReigns
His Kingdom on earth (spiritual) wasn't established untill the calvary and ressurection. And he said these words before the cross. And Romans 16:20 scripture is after the cross when His Kingdom was already established on the cross.
 

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It is a waste of time to argue with you, because we have already made our point through scriptures, and you refuse to let go of your false teachings!
 

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Perhaps you are deceived by those who tell you that these verses have no relevance to the people to whom they were first spoken? JesusReigns
JesusReigns, what were you before you became preterist? (denomination)
 

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JesusReigns, what were you before you became preterist? (denomination)
Tama: I was a member of an Independent Baptist Church and a staunch premillennial, pre-tribulational dispensationalist. And you?JesusReigns
 

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It is a waste of time to argue with you, because we have already made our point through scriptures, and you refuse to let go of your false teachings!
jodycour: I am trying to recall when exactly you proved the verses I gave you false teachings. Would you humor me by explaining again what Jesus means in Matthew 10:23?To whom is He speaking?Who was to go to the lost sheep of Israel?To whom were the things prophesied by Jesus to happen?Who was not to finsih going through the cities of Israel BEFORE the Son of Man CAME?Can you please tell me what relevance any of this had to those first-century, disciples (Jesus' Twelve)?What do you suppose THEY thought His words to THEM meant?I am taking Jesus' words at their face value just as He presented them. What is false about that?JesusReigns
 

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His Kingdom on earth (spiritual) wasn't established until the calvary and resurrection. And he said these words before the cross. And Romans 16:20 scripture is after the cross when His Kingdom was already established on the cross.
Tama: What was the ultimate plan and purpose of Satan? Was it not to deceive the nations? Was he not allowed to deceive the nations in the OT so that only a outsiders ever came to faith in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? That ended when the deception was removed and the gospel went out to the Gentiles. In any event, Paul is saying that at some future but SOON to Paul's time, Satan was to be crushed under THEIR feet by God. JesusReigns
 

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It was the introduction to the chapter from the companion bible oh I forgot all bibles are wrong only you are right NOT
 

Tama

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Tama: What was the ultimate plan and purpose of Satan? Was it not to deceive the nations? Was he not allowed to deceive the nations in the OT so that only a outsiders ever came to faith in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? That ended when the deception was removed and the gospel went out to the Gentiles. In any event, Paul is saying that at some future but SOON to Paul's time, Satan was to be crushed under THEIR feet by God. JesusReigns
You are asking us all these questions and when we answer - you ignore them. I see it's your way of creating more opportunities to talk all that nonsence. Again, there is nothing NOTHING you can say that will shake out faith! WE are awaiting our Saviour that will come, and will judge deceivers, and False teachers and False prophets!!! End of discussion........ Don't wante so much of your time and so many words. It is nothing but a waste....