SONS OF GOD, WHO ARE THEY?

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CharismaticLady

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My question still ,was and is satan not an angel?????Thinking Alice has nothing to do with this

Yes, Satan is an angel, but the next chapter PROVES that Adam (a human) knew Eve and she conceived and bore Cain. Adam is not another name for Satan.
 

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Oh really? I prefer the fear of the Lord to make sure I understand His Word.

Genesis 2:
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

Besides, it was not that the fruit was poisonous. In fact, it was delicious which is why she wanted Adam to taste it.
was that fear as in "quake in boots" or fear as in "awe". because teh first has nothing to do with love or faith.
 

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was that fear as in "quake in boots" or fear as in "awe". because teh first has nothing to do with love or faith.

Awe, of course, but a healthy fear and trembling is how we are to work out our own salvation. So both. You can't really love God and not obey Him.
 

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Ever heard of twins having different fathers? That is what happened to Cain and Abel.

Genesis 4 told us who Cain's father was; who was Abel's father then? And in the case of twins, Scripture says when there are twins, as in Genesis 25 Esau and Jacob. Abel was merely Cain's younger brother. They both needed to be introduced because of what happened next after they were grown. Of course, Eve had daughters also, and Cain married one of them.
 

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This one's
There is much to understand before all comes together/

1. There were two creations - mankind in Gen 1 Adam and Eve in Gen 2
2. The trees in the garden are the mankind created in Gen 1 - Jesus was the tree of knowledge
3. The tree of good and evil were people that became possessed by the devil
4. Jesus said to some, that they were of their father the wicked one
5. Bible says Cain was the son of the the wicked one.

Ever heard of twins having different fathers? That is what happened to Cain and Abel.
false sphere of teachings is from a particular heresy/ school, not from God nor from God's Word:

There are many such son of the wicked one. (today),

as Jesus declared straight to them in NT in first century.
 
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Genesis 4 told us who Cain's father was; who was Abel's father then? And in the case of twins, Scripture says when there are twins, as in Genesis 25 Esau and Jacob. Abel was merely Cain's younger brother. They both needed to be introduced because of what happened next after they were grown. Of course, Eve had daughters also, and Cain married one of them.

Eve was the first woman that had twins that had different fathers. Hasn't that happened in our age?

We have been brought up believing what the church taught us. What they taught us is wrong, like saying Gen 1 and Gen 2 agree as to creation. There is so many contradictions that you would think anybody could see that nothing is the same in Gen 1 as it is in Gen 2. If you can do so, please do.

Cain didn't marry his sister, he built a city. What, a city with no people?

1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
The wicked one is the devil!
 
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There is more twisting and turning going on here than what takes place in the blacksmith shop!

There is much to understand before all comes together/

2 Corinthians 11:2 "For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 2 Cor 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, physical, so your minds, spiritual, should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."

He then connects the physical example with the spiritual application.

"But I am afraid, lest as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds should be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ." 2 Cor. 11:3.

If Paul's concern was the Corinthians "being led astray from the simplicity and purity to Christ, why would we have to have such a convoluted expose' that 99% of humanity would conclude that is complicated beyond all rational belief so we could understand "the simplicity"?

Greek lesson No. 1
Greek Lesson No. 2.

Not all words, including the idea here of sexual seduction to the point of sexual interaction, are so precise as to discard any other possible meanings.

We could use "seduced" instead of "Beguiled" in our translation. We can affirm that "ex" leads us to "completely." But even if we do, being "completely seduced" or "completely corrupted" can easily be used in the way legitimate translators have used it, i.e., that the readers mind (not body) is in danger of being totally corrupted from the simplicity in Christ. It quite simply can mean to "to lead astray" or "completely lead astray."

The situation that Paul is dealing with is disobedience and unfaithfulness to the simplicity to Christ and simplicity of the gospel that he taught. Paul is not afraid that the Corinthians are going to have sex with the devil. One can be "seduced" by the devil spiritually (which was doubtlessly true with Eve), and physically (which no passage in all of Scripture suggests or demands).

Paul writes in 2 Thes. 2:3, "Let no one in any way (exapatesei) deceive you..."
Because of the addition in the Greek of the word "Ex" or "Ek." If these words are NOT added then it is only a mental or emotional or can be a "spiritual" act!

But Paul adds "ex" in 2 Thes. 2:3. By your street-corner linguistics, Paul is saying "Let no man rape you"!

Romans 7:11 "for sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, deceived (exepatesen) First aorist active of exapatao,
me, and through it killed me." But you claim that Paul said that the commandment "raped" him!​

1 Cor. 3:18, "Let no man deceive (exapato) himself." "Let no man rape himself"? Really? The fictional "Rule" of Greek Grammar that "ex" demands a physical, and not an emotional or spiritual act, is clearly nonsense and a linguistic disaster! There is no such "Rule"! As one person stated, "Can it be spelled out any more plainer? Do you need a hailstone of 180 pounds to drop on your head?"


Greek lesson No. 1
Hermeneutics Lesson No. 1.

Context, Context, Context!

Words have no meaning independent from the context. To take the definitions of words and demand that their meaning is outside of their immediate context, is not a legitimate or rational academic argument!
 

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So are most all the world today.
There are real live children of the wicked one walking here on earth.

Joh 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
Joh 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
Abraham was their grandfather, but they came from Esau's linage, not Jacob's.

Joh 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

Then Jesus said -
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Joh 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
Joh 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
Joh 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
 
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There is more twisting and turning going on here than what takes place in the blacksmith shop!

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Were angels created in God’s image?

NO NO NO!!!

The sons of God were created on the 6th day, period.

Adam was one of the sons of God, Genesis 1:27.

The first four chapters of Genesis are 4 selfies of God. Not a chronological or figurative account. They are separate and squishing them into one story is what has confused humanity since Moses came down from the mount.

If Moses could have explained selfies to the Hebrews, this would never have been confusing. Well until theologians tried to interpret them.

So the sons of God were never angels and never will be.

Adam's descendants were fallen humanity, whom the sons of God, chose as their wives, instead of other sons of God. By the way, they were created male and female, and there were a lot of them.
 

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Were angels created in God’s image?

NO NO NO!!!

The sons of God were created on the 6th day, period.

Adam was one of the sons of God, Genesis 1:27.

The first four chapters of Genesis are 4 selfies of God. Not a chronological or figurative account. They are separate and squishing them into one story is what has confused humanity since Moses came down from the mount.

If Moses could have explained selfies to the Hebrews, this would never have been confusing. Well until theologians tried to interpret them.

So the sons of God were never angels and never will be.

Adam's descendants were fallen humanity, whom the sons of God, chose as their wives, instead of other sons of God. By the way, they were created male and female, and there were a lot of them.
God's Word is correct, but people deviate from it - Tradition has a bad habit...... we should have nun-of-this ! (not really funny)
...but people like it.
I guess it tickles their ears .... (doesn't the Bible say this somewhere ? )
 

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We have been brought up believing what the church taught us. What they taught us is wrong, like saying Gen 1 and Gen 2 agree as to creation. There is so many contradictions that you would think anybody could see that nothing is the same in Gen 1 as it is in Gen 2. If you can do so, please do.

Cain didn't marry his sister, he built a city. What, a city with no people?

1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
The wicked one is the devil!

Who did Cain marry? Or what did Cain marry?

Genesis 4:
17 Cain and his wife had a son and named him Enoch.
 

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Who did Cain marry? Or what did Cain marry?

Genesis 4:
17 Cain and his wife had a son and named him Enoch.
If you ask the false teacher that question, as this post seems to ask him,

do you expect anything true to come from him ? !
 

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So then , as we have seen, the offspring of Eve is as the Bible says, as God Created man and woman to have children, and they do (no surprise).
God did not create angels to marry, to take wives, nor to have children.

So the demons produce, not children, but stories through deceived men.

Seeing as this is totally unscriptural, but others also believe this, this belief has a man-made source or denomination.