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Hello 101,
Good post. In my own mind and what I have believed for a time now is that, the reason Jesus does not know the time is because God The Father has not "spoken" it yet...I have nothing to back that up but...it hit me hard one day and I've thought that ever since :)
Hi Nancy, you just hit it on the head. this is the reason why the Spirit speak not of himself. you're more closer to the truth any so far. for the Spirit speak NOT of himself, and the Spirit is God, John 4:24a, who is the Father.

see, true christan are on the money so to speak, but once they get the truth solidified in their minds, man oh man, many will be tigers, using a figure of speech.

so Nancy you're on the money. this is why this topice the Lord Jesus gives, to let his children "KNOW".

be blessed.

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Hi Nancy, you just hit it on the head. this is the reason why the Spirit speak not of himself. you're more closer to the truth any so far. for the Spirit speak NOT of himself, and the Spirit is God, John 4:24a, who is the Father.

see, true christan are on the money so to speak, but once they get the truth solidified in their minds, man oh man, many will be tigers, using a figure of speech.

so Nancy you're on the money. this is why this topice the Lord Jesus gives, to let his children "KNOW".

be blessed.

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A. argument from the Bible/Truth of the Scriptures, or B. argument from ignorance.

“The Father is Greater than I”, question.​

Teaching Scripture: John 14:28 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I".

this verse have been taken out of context for way to long, and grossly misunderstood. a proverb scriptures states, in all thy getting get understanding. So, let’s get some understanding.
the word, "GREATER", here in this verse is not the word GREAT, but, "GREATER", it's an Adjective used here, and not an Adverb, this is very important. because the word GREATER is the Greek word G3187 meizon (meid'-zone) adj. Which means,
1. larger (specially, in age)
{literally or figuratively}
[irregular comparative of G3173]
KJV: elder, greater(-est), more
Root(s): G3173

Dictionary.com define this word, as an Adjective, (of a city) considered with the inclusion of the outer suburbs: example, Greater London. the definitions is indicating quantity, (MORE), instead of quality, (SUPERIOR).

there is a scripture that gives us clear understanding of the word of God. and explain the quantity, (MORE) vs the quality, (SUPERIOR). John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father”. HOLD IT, “greater works?”, but did not the Lord Jesus say no servant is “GREATER” than his master? so how are we going to do “GREATER” works than the Lord Jesus? good question. so, lets get the answer.

quantity: "an exact or specified amount or measure". measure here, in quantity, give us a starting point in the understanding of "Greater", and is the key to unlock the question that is before us.

So What did our Lord and saviour Jesus meant when he said, "The Father is Greater than I", Greater: the Greek word G3187 meizon (meid'-zone), as said indicate quantity, and quantity is synonyms for “MEASURE”. in the book of Romans 12:3 it states, "For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith". this verse gives us the understanding of "quantity", vs "quality". every man is the same, (quality), no man is superior/quality to another, so there's no rank. also as with MALES and FEMALES in the Kingdom of GOD. For there is neither male nor female, (hence the reason why I know women can preach). we all are the same when it come to the giving of FAITH from God. We all gets the same MEASURE/quantity. the same Spirit that is in every man, meaning male/female, is given the same amount/measure or the same quantity of Faith. so likewise as the same Spirit that manifest in that fleshly body, only the quantity, or the Omni attributes did. other words his Omni attributes was as Phil 2:7 states, was in G2758 κεν?ω kenoo (ke-no-o'). let’s look at this in John the 14th. chapter. here, the Lord Jesus is speaking of the work of salvation. as the Spirit was in Christ, (the flesh), the man, he was limited, by that fleshly body with BLOOD. the Lord Jesus didn't go into all the world while he was here on earth in flesh and blood. he was limited in his work of salvation, because of that body he was in. but to see this clearly, watch the WORKS and how it is used. John 14:12 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father". see that word "greater" here in verse 12. it is the same word, "greater", our Lord Jesus uses in verse 28. wait a minute, is Jesus saying that men who believe is GREATER than him in power, (quality)? as which some been led to assume. no, what do greater means? NOt in quality. (is the servant GREATER than his Master?), again no. so what is the Lord Jesus really saying. as we have said, GREATER, have several meaning, depending on how you used it, in context or out of context, but let the bible explain itself. with that said, now we are seeing the real use of the word, in context meaning, greater as in quantity, and not in quality. greater used as an adjective, it means, "more" as in more believers to do the SAME quality of work, (BINGO), because it is the Lord who do the work. Once glorified, (in Spirit, as the Comforter), he dwells, or fills a greater numbers/believers as he is Spirit in us his body doing the same quality of work he was doing as only one individual in flesh and blood. John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works, (there it is), than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father". so we who believe will do the SAME works, (quality), but now as the body/church grows, Greater in numbers, there will be millions of Jesus, (indwelling Spirit), doing the same quality of work. so again greater here means more.

let’s look at the answer to this millions, (quantity), of Jesus workers at work as we’re co-worker with him. This is why he goes to the father, to be glorified in the Spirit. And in Spirit form he now can dwell in each and every believer doing the same "quality" of work.

this is why he goes to the Father, to be glorified with his, "OWN" Spirit, that he had with the Father before the world begin, (see John 17:5) this is how the bible come together. as Spirit, he is the one who “pour” out his Spiritual Gifts on the day of Pentecost. see how the bible just come together. when in answering one question we get educated in another area.

so the “GREATER THAN” question is answered. the key in unlocking the truth is knowing the difference between, quantity, (MORE) vs quality, (SUPERIOR). once the child of God understand these concepts then one will understand clearly John 14:28 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I".


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Lets just get one more in today, wich will be enough for today

A.argument from the Bible/Truth of the Scriptures, or B. argument from ignorance.

“The Lord Jesus, (Two Fold Return), as the Holy Spirit”

Matthew 16:28" Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom”. and,

Mark 9:1" And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power”. and lastly,

Luke 9:27 "But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God”.

Our brothers and sisters of the Preterist movement tried to jump on these verses of scriptures to show that the Lord Jesus had returned for the final time. well they are in Error of the truth.

These three verses of scriptures have puzzle a many of Christians for years. and have made many of scholar into lairs, adding and taking away from the word of God. that puzzlement is now over with, revealed, and put in it’s proper place. here was the dilemma of all the verses. a. if the Lord Jesus have not returned in power, even today, (because many are still waiting for his return). then there are some very, very old christian people walking around today. that idea is not biblical, because no where in the bible is it written after the Lord Jesus spoke theses word is it recorded that any man lived at least 2,000 years after these saying. so this nullifies anyone still walking around as a human, (with blood), over 2,000 years old. even per-flood after the fall of Adam in sin no one made it to a thousand. so again that theory out.

The second option, b. our Lord did return as he said he would, in his Kingdom, and in POWER before some of them standing, and in that generation tasted natural death. not spiritual death, but natural death. .knowing that our Lord, JESUS, who is God, cannot lie, HE MUST HAVE RETURN BEFORE SOME STANDING AT THAT TIME DIED. so I must accept his words as truth, and search his word out for the revelation. (For the Lord Jesus cannot lie). and since he cannot lie, we now have the revealing answer?. option a is out, that only leaves option b. option b holds the true answer, which we will revealed here. YES, he did return, and here is that revelation.

The LORD “JESUS," his” RETURN is in TWO PARTS, or TWO FOLD
Lets carefully, and fully explain this two fold return. what do we mean, two fold?, his return is in two parts. the first of his two fold return is in Spirit, and this return happen on the day of Pentecost. with this first of his two fold return happening before some of them standing there died. this return was in power, meaning in Spirit, (the Holy Spirit). this is the Lord Jesus “first” of his two fold return.

John 14:20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him”. the Lord Jesus said that he will “manifest himself”. but how is he manifesting himself to them, his disciple?. this is the same question Judas asked, not Iscariot, listen, John 14:22" Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?”. this is the key question in understanding our Lord's return. this is another eureka moment in history, as with Moses asking God what is his name on the mountain. the Lord Jesus said that he will manifest himself to them. here is how he manifested himself, in (POWER, the Spirit). for the Lord Jesus is the POWER and WISDOM of God, meaning he is God himself. Acts 2:1 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance”. this is the manifestation that Judas asked about in John 14, and the Lord himself said that he would manifest himself.

This pouring out of these gifts happen on the day of Pentecost, just as the prophet Joel spoke by the Word of God. and as Jesus himself stated that, “some standing, will not taste death until they see the son in power in his Kingdom”. Joel 2:28" And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit”. notice God said his “spirit”, small case “s” in spirit, indicating his diversified spirit, as God with flesh and bones. this is the first of the Lord Jesus return, in power of the Holy Spirit. his body is present in Heaven, as he sit on the throne, and his Spirit on earth. if one would now notice, this is the reverse of John 3:13. where the Spirit was in heaven (Present) and the body was on earth (Present). now the body is in heaven and the Spirit is on earth. but did not Joel state that it was the LORD, all caps, (Spirit), that was poured out?. yes, for the Lord Jesus is God, the Holy Spirit. listen, in Joel, he said that the LORD will “pour” out his spirit. and this happen on Pentecost. scripture, Acts 2:16" But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel”. the apostle Peter plainly lets us know that what was happening on Pentecost was spoke of by the LORD prophet Joel. the question arises, who poured his spirit out?. Joel said it was the LORD, all caps. lets see who poured it out on Pentecost. Acts 2:32" This Jesus hath God raised up, (see John 2:19-21), whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath “shed” forth this, which ye now see and hear”. the key word here is he, the Lord JESUS, “shed”. what do shed means?, it is the Greek word, G1632 ἐκχέω ekcheo (ek-kheh'-o) (or (by variation) ekchuno ek-khoo'-no)
1. to pour forth
2. (figuratively) to bestow
KJV: gush (pour) out, run greedily (out), shed (abroad, forth), spill

there is our word, in the first definition, “shed” means “pour forth or out”. and it is the Lord Jesus who poured out his Spirit. this prove that the Lord Jesus, (in flesh and bones) is the Holy Spirit, who is GOD (the Father). in power of the Spirit he poured out “HIS”, not their, but "HIS" Spirit on the day of Pentecost, (read Acts 2:32 & 33 again). and this pouring out, or MANIFESTATION of the spirit, makes Mark 9:1, Luke 9:27 and Matthew 16:28 fulfill, and the words of the Lord Jesus TRUE. this is the manifestation Judas ask about in John 14:22, and the Lord foretold also.

so clearly we see that this is the first of his two fold return, in the power of the Spirit. John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you”. notice, the Lord said that he would not leave them “comfortless”. the Holy Spirit, God, is the comforter”. to make it clear, is not the Lord Jesus the mediator?, is not a mediator is an advocate?, yes, (1 John 2:1 & 2). and what is an advocate, lets see, G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
KJV: advocate, comforter

there he is, an advocate is the comforter. the Lord Jesus Christ is our advocate, (1 John 2:1), which makes him our COMFORTER, God himself. so clearly we see the Lord Jesus in his first of two fold returns. first in spirit, next in,........ we will see it now.

The second of his two fold return will be in bodily form, and for all eyes to see him. the first return was not visually observed by all eyes, (the world). for he returned in spirit, (abstract form). his next, or the second of his two fold return will be visually seen by everyone in (concrete form), and all the world, or every eyes will see him. scripture, Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen”. this is the return everyone knows about and is waiting for. understand, this return is yet to happen. most christians calls this return the rapture for his church. another supporting scripture of the Lord’s two fold return, Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation". this is the second scripture confirming the second two fold coming of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus the Christ.

Conclusion: with this first of his two fold returns already done, we who are alive look for his second coming in flesh and bones. we know that the Lord JESUS is the Spirit, the comforter, the Holy Spirit, here now. as a man, (which is his own image that was to come, he sits in heaven as our high priest, making intersession on our behalf, as mediator). scripture, 1Ti 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus". so this first of his two fold return is fulfilled without doubt, now we look for his second fold coming, or return, amen.

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Lets just get one more in today, wich will be enough for today

A.argument from the Bible/Truth of the Scriptures, or B. argument from ignorance.

“The Lord Jesus, (Two Fold Return), as the Holy Spirit”

Matthew 16:28" Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom”. and,

Mark 9:1" And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power”. and lastly,

Luke 9:27 "But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God”.

Our brothers and sisters of the Preterist movement tried to jump on these verses of scriptures to show that the Lord Jesus had returned for the final time. well they are in Error of the truth.

These three verses of scriptures have puzzle a many of Christians for years. and have made many of scholar into lairs, adding and taking away from the word of God. that puzzlement is now over with, revealed, and put in it’s proper place. here was the dilemma of all the verses. a. if the Lord Jesus have not returned in power, even today, (because many are still waiting for his return). then there are some very, very old christian people walking around today. that idea is not biblical, because no where in the bible is it written after the Lord Jesus spoke theses word is it recorded that any man lived at least 2,000 years after these saying. so this nullifies anyone still walking around as a human, (with blood), over 2,000 years old. even per-flood after the fall of Adam in sin no one made it to a thousand. so again that theory out.

The second option, b. our Lord did return as he said he would, in his Kingdom, and in POWER before some of them standing, and in that generation tasted natural death. not spiritual death, but natural death. .knowing that our Lord, JESUS, who is God, cannot lie, HE MUST HAVE RETURN BEFORE SOME STANDING AT THAT TIME DIED. so I must accept his words as truth, and search his word out for the revelation. (For the Lord Jesus cannot lie). and since he cannot lie, we now have the revealing answer?. option a is out, that only leaves option b. option b holds the true answer, which we will revealed here. YES, he did return, and here is that revelation.

The LORD “JESUS," his” RETURN is in TWO PARTS, or TWO FOLD
Lets carefully, and fully explain this two fold return. what do we mean, two fold?, his return is in two parts. the first of his two fold return is in Spirit, and this return happen on the day of Pentecost. with this first of his two fold return happening before some of them standing there died. this return was in power, meaning in Spirit, (the Holy Spirit). this is the Lord Jesus “first” of his two fold return.

John 14:20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him”. the Lord Jesus said that he will “manifest himself”. but how is he manifesting himself to them, his disciple?. this is the same question Judas asked, not Iscariot, listen, John 14:22" Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?”. this is the key question in understanding our Lord's return. this is another eureka moment in history, as with Moses asking God what is his name on the mountain. the Lord Jesus said that he will manifest himself to them. here is how he manifested himself, in (POWER, the Spirit). for the Lord Jesus is the POWER and WISDOM of God, meaning he is God himself. Acts 2:1 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance”. this is the manifestation that Judas asked about in John 14, and the Lord himself said that he would manifest himself.

This pouring out of these gifts happen on the day of Pentecost, just as the prophet Joel spoke by the Word of God. and as Jesus himself stated that, “some standing, will not taste death until they see the son in power in his Kingdom”. Joel 2:28" And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit”. notice God said his “spirit”, small case “s” in spirit, indicating his diversified spirit, as God with flesh and bones. this is the first of the Lord Jesus return, in power of the Holy Spirit. his body is present in Heaven, as he sit on the throne, and his Spirit on earth. if one would now notice, this is the reverse of John 3:13. where the Spirit was in heaven (Present) and the body was on earth (Present). now the body is in heaven and the Spirit is on earth. but did not Joel state that it was the LORD, all caps, (Spirit), that was poured out?. yes, for the Lord Jesus is God, the Holy Spirit. listen, in Joel, he said that the LORD will “pour” out his spirit. and this happen on Pentecost. scripture, Acts 2:16" But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel”. the apostle Peter plainly lets us know that what was happening on Pentecost was spoke of by the LORD prophet Joel. the question arises, who poured his spirit out?. Joel said it was the LORD, all caps. lets see who poured it out on Pentecost. Acts 2:32" This Jesus hath God raised up, (see John 2:19-21), whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath “shed” forth this, which ye now see and hear”. the key word here is he, the Lord JESUS, “shed”. what do shed means?, it is the Greek word, G1632 ἐκχέω ekcheo (ek-kheh'-o) (or (by variation) ekchuno ek-khoo'-no)
1. to pour forth
2. (figuratively) to bestow
KJV: gush (pour) out, run greedily (out), shed (abroad, forth), spill

there is our word, in the first definition, “shed” means “pour forth or out”. and it is the Lord Jesus who poured out his Spirit. this prove that the Lord Jesus, (in flesh and bones) is the Holy Spirit, who is GOD (the Father). in power of the Spirit he poured out “HIS”, not their, but "HIS" Spirit on the day of Pentecost, (read Acts 2:32 & 33 again). and this pouring out, or MANIFESTATION of the spirit, makes Mark 9:1, Luke 9:27 and Matthew 16:28 fulfill, and the words of the Lord Jesus TRUE. this is the manifestation Judas ask about in John 14:22, and the Lord foretold also.

so clearly we see that this is the first of his two fold return, in the power of the Spirit. John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you”. notice, the Lord said that he would not leave them “comfortless”. the Holy Spirit, God, is the comforter”. to make it clear, is not the Lord Jesus the mediator?, is not a mediator is an advocate?, yes, (1 John 2:1 & 2). and what is an advocate, lets see, G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
KJV: advocate, comforter

there he is, an advocate is the comforter. the Lord Jesus Christ is our advocate, (1 John 2:1), which makes him our COMFORTER, God himself. so clearly we see the Lord Jesus in his first of two fold returns. first in spirit, next in,........ we will see it now.

The second of his two fold return will be in bodily form, and for all eyes to see him. the first return was not visually observed by all eyes, (the world). for he returned in spirit, (abstract form). his next, or the second of his two fold return will be visually seen by everyone in (concrete form), and all the world, or every eyes will see him. scripture, Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen”. this is the return everyone knows about and is waiting for. understand, this return is yet to happen. most christians calls this return the rapture for his church. another supporting scripture of the Lord’s two fold return, Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation". this is the second scripture confirming the second two fold coming of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus the Christ.

Conclusion: with this first of his two fold returns already done, we who are alive look for his second coming in flesh and bones. we know that the Lord JESUS is the Spirit, the comforter, the Holy Spirit, here now. as a man, (which is his own image that was to come, he sits in heaven as our high priest, making intersession on our behalf, as mediator). scripture, 1Ti 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus". so this first of his two fold return is fulfilled without doubt, now we look for his second fold coming, or return, amen.

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But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
 
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“The subjection of Christ within God”
God, the Holy Spirit, JESUS, who is a plurality of himself in flesh, (John 1:1) is now as we speak sit on the throne in heaven as High Priest and King, (in power), in his diversified state. and his Spirit, the Comforter, (sent forth into all the world), is here present in every believer.

the Question comes, “If JESUS is God, how is he going to be Subject to his Father”, and be all and all with him. Good question. supportive scripture, 1 Corinthians 15:27 "For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. verse 28 “And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all". as we know that God, the Spirit, is the plurality of himself in flesh, how is he going to be all in all as one with the Father is he’s “Subject” to him? to find this out we will have to,

A. argument from the Bible/Truth of the Scriptures, or B. argument from ignorance.

we choose A. for in the ignorance of this word, many a christian believe this word means, “be under”, ONLY. so the very first thing we need to do is understand the word “Subject” and how it is used, SUBJECT: G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) v. According to Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English. the very first clue to understanding the word is that it is a verb, and not a noun. (that will alert one quickly). as a verb one can quickly see, or understand what subject means here in context. a.put within, b. will. lets look at both and understand this revelation. according to the second definition of subject in the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary as a verb, it means 2. To put under or within the power of. Please look up this word. (there is our revelation, “within”, the power of). lets back this up with our second understanding. G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso (hoop-ot-as'-so) as a verb which means 1. to subordinate. 2. (reflexively) to obey [from G5259 and G5021]
KJV: be under obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject (to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto.

please notice, the KJV can translate subject, as be under obedience, which bring us to our second understanding. lets see this in scripture, Matthew 26:42 " He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done”. here is the revelation, of his "will". the Lord Jesus is God “OWN” arm. see, Isaiah 63:5. so being his “OWN” arm it is through, or “within” the agency of the Lord Jesus Christ that his, (GOD), as spirit, OWN “will” is done, hence the obedience. this is proven out in the definition of G5293 ὑποτάσσω hupotasso itself. the definition also states from G5259 and G5021, lets see what
G5259 ὑπό hupo (hoop-oh') means,
1.under
2.(with the genitive case) of place (beneath), or with verbs (the agency or means, through)
3.(with the accusative case) of place (whither (underneath) or where (below) or time (when (at)) In the comparative, it retains the same general applications, especially of inferior position or condition, and specially, covertly or moderately.
[a primary preposition]
KJV: among, by, from, in, of, under, with

examine definition #2 above carefully, it said, when used as a verb. there is our conformation, the agency or means, “through”. and “through” is synonyms with “WITHIN”. so when G5259 is use in VERB form, meaning with a verb as in “BE” subject as here in 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 then it is understood to be used as the “agency or means, through”. other words Isaiah 63:5 is totally correct and on point when God said, " And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me”. the power is in, or within God “own” arm, who the Lord JESUS himself, “God’s own arm, (diversified in flesh, as the Son). BINGO. that’s all that is needed, the Holy Spirit, (the Revelator) and an old English dictionary like the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary to bring out the definition clearly. . the Holy Spirit will enable us, or give us the ability to root out words and understand their meaning when the old English language is used at that time when the bible was written. now let get the clear understanding, verse 28 "And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be” subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all".

ok, God as a plurality of himself at John 1:1 in a diverse state of Spirit, present on earth, and in glorified flesh in heaven. so when the Kingdom is delivered up, the question is how is the Son and the Father be All in all as one, if they are in a diverse state. for lack of space we will get to the heart of the answer quickly.
the diverse state of the Father and the Son is “ANOTHER” of one’s OWNSELF, which is clearly defined in the Greek term, G243 ἄλλος allos, which Allos expresses a numerical difference. a NUMERICIAL DIFFERENCE is called DIFFERENTIATION, (meaning more than one, like Father, and son), question, what is the OPPOSITE of DIFFERENTIATION? since the process of “ANOTHER” is the sharing of Spirit, (diversity), so, what is the opposite of DIFFERENTIATION, answer, "ASSIMILATION". the definition of "ASSIMILATION" is to take in, or to incorporate as one's own. question, is not the Lord JESUS God’s “own” ARM? (who is shared equally, and sent, (distinct), into the world?) Listen, John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was". BONGO. now, when the Kingdom is delivered up, the Son, (God’s OWN ARM) is ASSIMILATED as he was in the beginning, Genesis 1:1, how simple that, only when one understand the truth.

At Genesis 1:1 there is only the Spirit, Father, LORD, the ROOT. at John 1:1 the Spirit, diversified, (shared in Flesh), the Son, Lord, the OFFSPRING. at Revelation 1:1 the Spirit, ASSIMILATED himself, Root and Offspring. this is why our Lord JESUS said I AM the “ROOT” and the “OFFSPRING”, meaning the same Person. and knowing that then one can understand Revelation chapter 5 when the Root standing took the book out of the Offspring hand… (smuile). BINGO. oh how the bible just comes together in harmony when one know and understand the TRUTH.


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God Pierced?”​

as our fellow child of God in Christ, one of (God sons), said. “Even those who pierced Him”, hit it on the head.

but the question comes, is not God a Spirit, (John 4:24a), yes, so how can one pierced a spirit? lets see. as said before we can, A. argue from the Bible/Truth of the Scriptures, or B. argue from ignorance.

again we choose A. scripture, Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn”.

John 19:31 "The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

John 19:32 "Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.

John 19:33 "But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:

John 19:34 "But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

John 19:35 "And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.John 19:36 "For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.

John 19:37 "And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced”.

in Zechariah 12:10, it was the LORD, God almighty, the Spirit, who said, “and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced”. but was it not the “Lord” Jesus whom they Pierced? well, well, well, the bible is full circle. if memory serve me correctly, one poster said that the titles, “LORD”, and “Lord” are interchangeable, well that just killed the scripture of our title. Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool”. well that want fly, because it’s the same person. but the million dollar question is HOW?. as said, “diversity”, or the ANOTHER of one own-self.…… “shared”. for the person in Zechariah 12:10, is the same person was Pierce according to John 19:31-37. let’s get understanding of who the LORD and the Lord as the same person.

while in Zechariah lets read, 13:7 and see both the LORD, and the Lord. "Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones”. we know that that the man who is God’s Fellow is the Lord Jesus because this is bared out in Matthew 26:31 "Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad”. well it was written right here in Zechariah 13:7. so let the Holy Ghost reveal who this man, that is God’s “Fellow”. the term “Fellow” here is the Hebrew word, H5997 עָמִית `amiyth (aw-meeth') n-m.
1. companionship.
2. (hence, concretely) a comrade or kindred man.
[from a primitive root meaning to associate]
KJV: another, fellow, neighbour.

Notice definition #2. (hence, concretely) a comrade or kindred man. so the Man that is God’s fellow is JESUS, and notice how the KJV can translate Fellow… “ANOTHER” BINGO, that word “ANOTHER” just keep coming up over and over. understand JESUS is Another of God in flesh, the LAST ADAM, or the Last “ANOTHER” in flesh. for the term ADAM can be translated as “ANOTHER, lets see.
Adam: H120 אָדָם 'adam (aw-dawm') n-m.
ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.).
[from H119]
KJV: X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person.
Root(s): H119

there you have it ANOTHER, this man was the First “another” of God in Flesh, but he sinned. and God himself came in Flesh, the the LAST Adam, or the Last “ANOTHER” of himself in flesh. and here in Zechariah, in both places we see the ANOTHER of God himself, coming in flesh.

yes in flesh because Definition #2 in Fellow states, (hence, concretely) a comrade or kindred man.
concretely means solid, seen, other words in FLESH, that’s how they could Pierced God by him coming in flesh. and also notice, the definition states, he’s a “kindred man”. well what do “Offspring” in the NT means? lets have a look see. Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star”. here “offspring” is the Greek word, G1085 γένος genos (ǰe'-nos) n.
kin.
{abstract or concrete, literal or figurative, individual or collective}
[from G1096]
KJV: born, country(-man), diversity, generation, kind(-red), nation, offspring, stock
Root(s): G1096

there he is “Kin” as in “KINSman Redeemer… BINGO. and also the definition also states that this kinsman can be “concrete”. now that just says it all, and confirms what the bible said of the LORD’S “fellow” in Zechariah 13:7.and lastly this kinsman, Jesus, who is also as the definition states can be translated as …. “Diversity”. BINGO. God is a “diversity” of himself in flesh.


this is Bible study at it’s best.

so to the Poster, “Even those who pierced Him”, you're 100% correct.

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“Titles, Appellation, and the Epithet of God”
argument from the Bible/the Truth in Scriptures, or B. argument from Ignorance.​
What’s in a NAME?. a name is 1. a word or a combination of words by which a person, place, or thing, a body or class, or any object of thought is designated, called, or known. which can be an appellation, title, or epithet, applied descriptively, in honor, positive, or in the negative. example Catherine the Great, Ivan the terrible, Baby face Nelson. a name can be a title, a descriptive Epithet, or distinctive appellation, especially one belonging to a person by right of rank, office, attainment, Example, the title, Lord Jesus, Pastor Paul, or Evangelist Helen, Clerk Doe.
Appellation,
1. an identifying name or title.
2. the act of naming or giving a title to.
3. a common name, in distinction from a proper name. A common name, or appellative, stands for a whole class, genus, or species of beings, or for universal ideas. Thus, tree is the name of all plants of a particular class; plant and vegetable are names of things that grow out of the earth.
Definition #1. States an “identifying” name or title but the Appellation is not the proper or personal name.
A proper noun is a noun that in its primary application refers to a unique entity, such as Rome, Washington, Lake Erie, or Microsoft, as distinguished from a common noun, which usually refers to a class of entities
Epithet,
any word or phrase applied to a person or thing to describe an actual or attributed quality.
Holy is an Epithet of the Eternal Spirit, whom we call God. "Holy" is his Character and Spirit is his nature, thus Holy Spirit. for God is "HOLY", and he is a Spirit.
Title, is a prefix or suffix added to someone's name in certain contexts. It may signify either veneration, an official position or a professional or academic qualification

Lets put this in layman’s terms so that everyone can understand. Appellation, Epithet, and Title, are names to identify what something, or someone is. notice I said “WHAT”, and not “WHO” someone or thing is. understand this, Appellation, Epithet, and Title, are common. these nouns identify “WHAT” someone or thing is. there is a noun that is called the PROPER, or PERSONAL noun that identify “WHO” a person or thing is. that’s the difference. A proper noun usually denotes a single unique entity, but the term proper noun pertains to a word's grammatical properties rather than to its meaning”. example “Eve” means mother of all living. Eve is a proper noun, but the meaning, “mother of all living” is a Personal identity. now also note these, Nouns, and proper nouns as well, have many different functions in a sentence. They can act as a subject, an adjective, an adverb, as a direct or indirect object, an appositive, or a subject or object complement. so a name, be common, or proper and can Identify another name.

Lets see this in action, “WHAT” vs “Who” in God name. Exodus 3:13 "And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you". notice Moses asked, "what is your name", that is very important. because God Gave Moses exactly what he asked for, no more and nothing less. so what do I AM means. according to Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Greek and Hebrew Dictionaries, "I AM", is a verb, and not a noun, that alone should wake one up. but this verb is emphatic?.
H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v.
1. to exist
2. to be or become
3. to come into being, i.e. to happen, to occur (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary). what is emphatic: positive, energetic, forcible, pronounced, decided, unequivocal, definite.

So we see that, "I AM", is a description of what he is. and only one person carry that description, so it's emphatic, hence our subject. but, "I AM" , and lets be clear, is not a proper, or Personal name, or EVEN a NOUN. "I AM" or "hayah", is an action verb in description of “WHAT” God is. in this case a title, or appellation, which describe what he, (GOD), is, "I AM". I Exist, the Eternal ONE. God is a God of Action. so the action here is WHAT God is?, and not WHO God is in name. understand, Moses asked "WHAT" is your name, and God gave to Moses just exactly what he asked for. nothing more or nothing less.

Now, the million dollar question, how to understand this name?. WHAT is his name, vs WHO his Name is, that is the question. again, notice the question Moses asked God, "WHAT IS YOUR NAME". Moses asked, "WHAT", not, "WHO", are you in name. I AM THAT I AM, EHEYEH asher EHEYEH, God replied. this is not God personal name, as to WHO he is, but, I AM THAT I AM, or I AM, is definitely “WHAT” he is. now, understanding our definition of what a noun, especially a proper noun, once again, nouns, and proper nouns have many different functions in a sentence. They can act as a subject, an adjective, an adverb, as a direct or indirect object, an appositive, or a subject or object complement. so what do COMPLEMENT means? .in grammar, a word or group of words that completes a grammatical construction in the predicate and that describes or is identified with the subject or object. and Predicate means, 1. to proclaim; declare; affirm; assert. 2. to connote; imply.

let see this in an Example, so that we can understand, as to the “WHO”, vs the “WHAT” God is. lets use the proper name, Eve. If I would to ask you what the first woman name is, just about everyone would say, "EVE". yes, Eve, it’s a proper, and personal name, but you would be wrong. why?, because I asked “WHAT” is her name, not “WHO” she is in name. lets get the answer from the bible. Genesis 5:1 & 2 "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created". When I ask, WHAT is her name, what she is, a, "ADAM", because Adam identify WHAT she is, and not WHO she is. ADAM is a TITLE, or common name for mankind, and not a personal name. Listen closely. if I would have ask you, WHO was the first woman by name?. then the correct answer would be, "EVE", because EVE identify WHO she is instead of WHAT she is, because WHAT she is in name, is a "ADAM". WHO she is in name is Eve.

Now Back to God name, when Moses asked God WHAT his name is. notice, WHAT his name is and not WHO his name is, God told Moses exactly what Moses asked, no more, no less. Now knowing that , if we say God, that's not his Personal name, as to WHO he is. the name GOD is what he is, I AM THAT I AM, YHWH, that identify WHAT he is. when we say KING, that's not his personal name, but KING identify WHAT he is, when we say FATHER, that's not his personal name, but FATHER identify WHAT he is. He's the Father of spirits, when we say, SAVIOUR, that's not his personal name, that identify WHAT he is, he's Saviour of the world. but When we say JESUS, now we are saying, WHO he is in name. just like, "EVE", that name identify WHO she is, and the name ADAM identify WHAT she is. so YHWH is not God PERSONAL NAME. JESUS is God PERSONAL NAME.

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argument from the Bible/the Truth in Scriptures, or B. argument from Ignorance.
I AM”​
Abstract and Concrete, Terms
Here in Psalms 110:1 we have two titles. “LORD”, all caps, and “Lord”. question, “if God is one how do these terms apply to him, (the Spirit).
well our friend, “Waiting on Him”, just keep on pressing the Holy Button of Truth. what do these two terms mean?

ABSTRACT: terms refer to ideas or concepts; they have no physical referents. Concrete is just the opposite. 2. thought of apart from concrete realities, specific objects, or actual instances: 3. expressing a quality or characteristic apart from any specific object or instance.

CONCRETE: 1. terms constituting an actual thing or instance; real. 2. pertaining to or concerned with realities or actual instances rather than abstractions; particular (opposed to general ): concrete ideas. 3. formed by coalescence of separate particles into a mass; united in a coagulated, condensed, or solid mass or state


Also we need to know two more terms that help us to understand Psalms 110:1 completely.


Subjective: existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought (opposed to objective ). 2. pertaining to or characteristic of an individual; personal; individual. 3. placing excessive emphasis on one's own moods, attitudes, opinions, etc.; unduly egocentric. In Philosophy. relating to or of the nature of an object as it is known in the mind as distinct from a thing in itself”.

Objective: something that one's efforts or actions are intended to attain or accomplish; purpose; goal; target: 2. intent upon or dealing with things external to the mind rather than with thoughts or feelings, as a person or a book. example, the objective of a military attack; the objective of a fund-raising drive.

LORD vs Lord
Is these title are of one Person or Two? . let’s KNOW by the scriptures. “I Am That I Am”. is the totality, or the plurality of God. Lets see this plainly, Revelation 1:4 "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne”. HE SAID THAT HE, is, was, and is to come. which is the same language in Exodus 3:14 "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you". the I AM THAT I AM, of Exodus 3:14, the (LORD), is the same person, “Which is”, “was”, and “is to come” in Revelation 1:4. lets break it down to understand.

Exodus 3:14, “I AM”, (Spirit, LORD), “THAT” (was in flesh, spirit, diversified, Lord), “I AM

Revelation 1:4, “Which is”, (Spirit,LORD), “Which was” (in Flesh, spirit, diversified, Lord), “Which is

What God told Moses, “I Am” coming as a man in flesh, and glorify myself in the resurrection, “Which is” to come.

Lets put it all together.

I AM = “FATHER”, the ROOT, “Which is”, Spirit, Genesis 1:1. MAKER & CREATOR

THAT =“Son”, The Offspring, “which was”, (spirit, a man, diversified), John 1:1. REDEEMER & SAVIOUR.

I AM = “Holy Spirit”, God Glorified flesh, “Which is”, to come. Revelation 1:1. COMFORTER & MEDIATOR.

the book of Revelation just lines up perfectly, as the whole bible do. BINGO.

so the abstract Spirit, “Father” creator, and maker, diversified himself in flesh, came as a man, and made himself “concrete”, to be seen and die.

that “Which was”, I AM the “abstract” Spirit, God, (The Subjective), sent his “ARM”, (the Objective), the Son who is the “concrete” of the Spirit “Which was”, I AM sent into the world. to bring salvation unto himself. Isaiah 63:5.

Father/LORD, abstract, in heaven/Spirit speaks to his Son/Body “concrete”, on earth, doing his own will.

oh how east it is to know the things of God.


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“The disciples Knew that Jesus was God”

Again here in Psalms 110:1 we have two titles. “LORD”, all caps, and “Lord”. question, “did the lay person in the church knew that Jesus is “LORD” and “Lord?”.
our brother Stephen, and Ananias, as disciple was learned in this knowledge, as well as many that was in the early church. for the Lord Jesus said, “go”, Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen”. STOP right here and think, the Lord Jesus told them, (and US some important information), that he would be “WITH” them, HOW LONG? answer, “lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world”, and who is with us now?… that’s right the Holy Spirit. so the apostles taught, Stephen, and Ananias, and all the disciples in the church this knowledge. the early church learned this knowledge and understood from the apostles that the Lord Jesus is God, Almighty in flesh. so, we can,

A. argue from the Bible/the Truth in Scriptures, or B. argue from Ignorance, again we choose A.​

our brother Ananias, he clearly as a disciple, knew that our Lord Jesus is God in flesh himself. in acts chapter 9, Paul, then Saul on the road to Damascus, he encountered our Lord and God Jesus the Christ. our brother Ananias gives us the clear identification of the Lord Jesus as the ONLY TRUE GOD. listen, Acts 9:15 "But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: 16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake”. here clearly the Lord Jesus had chosen Saul/Paul as his minister, to bare his name. and in another place in the book of acts, the apostle Paul gives more detail of what our brother Ananias said to him, which is of this same account, when he was at Jerusalem arrested. what our brother Ananias said, identified the Lord Jesus as being God, and God alone. we pick up this account in Acts 22:12, but keep in mind acts chapter 9. verse 12 "And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there, 13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him. 14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth. 15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard. 16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord”. notice, what? is it the LORD, or the Lord to call on. in acts our brother Ananias, said, verse 16b “ be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord”. calling on WHO?, let's see the answer from the old testament. Joel 2:32 "And it shall come to pass, whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call”.

so it is clear that by calling on the “Lord” is the same as calling on the “LORD”. and the LORD is God, whom many calls the "Father". but what makes our brother testimony so important is this, when he said, “The God of our fathers hath chosen thee”. the ONLY GOD of their FATHERS is the LORD, the ALMIGHTY. but it was the Lord Jesus who chose Saul/Paul ....... right .... right. Acts 9:15a "But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me”. but one could easily say, God the FATHER chose Saul/Paul for his Son the Lord Jesus. ok, that's a argument, but do it hold water? Let's see, because Paul, gives yet another account of the same story to king Agrippa with even more detail in the account in Acts chapter 26, listen to the record. Acts 26:12 " Whereupon as I went to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests, 13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. 14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. 15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. 16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee”. the Lord Jesus said that he would “MAKE” him, (Paul, then Saul) his minister. now the key word here is “make”. and it’s the Greek word,
G4400 προχειρίζομαι procheirizomai (pro-chei-riy'-zo-mai) v.
1. to handle for oneself in advance.
2. (figuratively) to purpose.
[middle voice from G4253 and a derivative of G5495]
KJV: choose, make
Root(s): G4253, G5495

there is our word, it is choose, or as in acts chapter 9, chosen, it's the same word. But here is the clincher. This word, G4400 προχειρίζομαι procheirizomai is only found in these two accounts, and nowhere else in the bible. Knowing this there is no excuse in saying that this word could be used this way or that, or some other way. No, there’s no excuse to this use. so our Lord Jesus, the God of the fathers chose Paul to carry his name.

now we see clearly that, according to Acts 26:16, it was the Lord Jesus who chose Saul/Paul, not a so called first person in a Godhead, NO, it was the Lord Jesus, that’s a scriptural fact. and our brother Ananias in Acts 22:14a said, "The God of our fathers hath chosen thee”. this is clear proof from the scriptures that our Lord Jesus is the God of the forefathers, whom we call the "FATHER". BINGO. YES, the same God who did not have a body of flesh and blood when he made all thing "by himself", "alone". this is the same one person who made the first Adam, and both the male, and the female. the Same God, Spirit, who talked to Abraham, John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am”. he was not lying, the SAME Spirit, who talked to Moses from the burning bush. also LISTEN CAREFULLY, the same God without flesh and bone who was in the Prophets of old. Hear the record, 1 Peter 1:10 & 11 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: 11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow”. THE"SPIRIT" OF CHRIST?" is is not only "one" Spirit? BIBGO, one day people will learn, I hope before it's to late. that SAME Spirit is shared in flesh and bone, with his personal name, “JESUS”, being made manifest as a man. talking to men in the flesh, Yes, Thomas is 100% correct in saying “My Lord, and My God”. for Jesus the Christ is Lord, (spirit as a man), and GOD, LORD, the "Father" now GLORIFIED in flesh.

if the early church disciples knew this why we, as the masses, have not this knowledge. a re-reading od this post might be nessary for complete consumption.

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Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool”.

argument from the Bible/the Truth in Scriptures, or B. argument from Ignorance.​

“The Unitarians Doctrine Corrected”
Again here in Psalms 110:1 we have two titles. “LORD”, all caps, and “Lord”. The Unitarian belief, and their doctrine is that our Lord Jesus the Christ is just a human man who God, (LORD, all caps), chose to deliver, or save his people from their sins, and later glorified him. notice two things here in the Isaiah & Luke accounts. the small case “s” in saviour, Isaiah 43:11. and the “a” as in one who is doing the saving in Luke 2:11. In combining these things, this is signifying a human agent of God as the Unitarian believe, and not God himself as Saviour. but notice the capitalization of the “S” in Saviour here in Luke 2:11. "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord”. this is not signifying a human saviour. but the divine God himself, in human form. lets look at some examples of “a” human saviour to support this belief of the unitarian. from this view, we can see their mistake. 2 Kings 13:3 "And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he delivered them into the hand of Hazael king of Syria, and into the hand of Benhadad the son of Hazael, all their days. 4 And Jehoahaz besought the LORD, and the LORD hearkened unto him: for he saw the oppression of Israel, because the king of Syria oppressed them. 5 And the LORD gave Israel a saviour, so that they went out from under the hand of the Syrians: and the children of Israel dwelt in their tents, as beforetime”. This human saviour who delivered, or save Israel from Hazael king of Syria, and Benhadad the son of Hazael was the son of Jehoahaz, Joash, see 2Ki 13:25. So God used a human man as “a” saviour from oppression. And we know that God used Moses, a human man, to deliver, or save the the children of Israel from the Egyptians oppression. as well as the woman Deborah, or any of the human judges who God raised up as saviours. Lets look at this agents, or human saviour clearly, Nehemiah 9:27 "Therefore thou deliveredst them into the hand of their enemies, who vexed them: and in the time of their trouble, when they cried unto thee, thou heardest them from heaven; and according to thy manifold mercies thou gavest them saviours, who saved them out of the hand of their enemies”. so clearly we see that God used men, human men, be it male or female, as a saviour.

Here is the misunderstanding, and errors on the unitarian behalf. those deliverance, or salvation was physical salvation from a physical oppression, and, or, bondage. This also was the great misconception of the Jews in our Lord’s day. they was expecting physical deliverance from Rome oppression, instead of a spiritual deliverance from their own sins. then, as today, the unitarian misconception is in the same error. the Jews was always looking for physical deliverance when the root cause of their physical bondage, or oppression was a spiritual condition called sin. and this circle of people sinning, and God putting them in bondage continue until God put an end to sin. so the answer was to delivered them spiritually so that they would not be physically bound, or oppressed anymore. For when the Son make free you, you’re free indeed. Notice this being set free, is not the same as being made free. simply put, if God deliver you spiritually, its once and for all, you want be physically bound, or oppressed anymore. you will never have to be again delivered physically anymore. Because spiritual bondage causes physical bondage, (and because his seed remain in us we are FREE and not in the bondage of sin). If one would just look at the book of Judges. every time the children of Israel disobeyed, spiritually, meaning they sinned against God. God allowed other nations to oppress them, or put them in bondage.

this circle of they sin, God allowed bondage, they repent, he sends a saviour. this happen over and over, well God put an end to it by the remedy of the root cause… “SIN”, Zechariah 3:9 "For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day". and he did. this … “SOME” … of Jews never understood. they only understood the hard way ….. the physical way. they looked for a physical deliverance, and God told then their problem was not physical, but spiritual.

for the lack of space see the topic, “The messiah didn't come yet.” page #4. Post #66. this will help one to understand God as saviour.


so the Unitarians view of God is flawed that it was God himself who came to save his people, not just some mere man as you and I, but he himself came. Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour”. BINGO.

so there is no “through” the Lord Jesus that the Father, God saves, no, Jesus is God the Father in Flesh.


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Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool”.

“The Oneness Doctrine Corrected”​

turning our attention now to the oneness believers. this belief is opposite the Unitarian belief, which believes that God did it all by himself, no agent involved. this is true, but it also fails the test to see the truth of the Godhead.

I believe in one God and One God alone, but not as the UPC and some others teach "oneness" concerning the Godhead. the bible teaches that God, the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, is one God who is a plurality of his own-self, who name is JESUS, but many fail to understand properly how this plurality works in the Godhead. the “oneness” people have no clue either.

#1 some believe that God had another nature, two, but how?, this they cannot explain, and still hold onto oneness. they say God is not born. but the scripture plainly states, a Saviour is born, whom all the apostles say is God, (THIS IS WHAT THEY CANNOT EXPLAIN). listen. Luke 2:11 "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord”. and God said that he is the only Saviour, notice the capital “S” in Saviour. listen, Isaiah 45:21 "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me”. there is no other Saviour, that’s a capital “S” in Saviour. now this, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour”. notice the all cap “LORD”. but the small case “s” in saviour here. he said that there is no saviour. signifying, it's not, a mere human man to be saviour of the spirit of God. can one see it now. so he who was born in the city of David was no mere man. for the scripture states “Saviour”, meaning God almighty. that’s where the oneness fail at. they can’t explain how God being born as a man, and that God grew as a child, or increase in Wisdom, when God is wisdom himself. this is the failing, or false teaching of men in try to explain the Godhead when the bible clearly tells us the truth about the Godhead, so why lie and make things up? oh well, that Saviour that was born, is God, in a state of “diversity”. BINGO, the equally shared in spirit with God himself in natural flesh, meaning without, G1411, dunamis power. this is why Jesus said the Father is greater, not in quality, according to the Spirit, but in quantity. do not the Spirit fill both heaven and earth. but the spirit in a body fills only that body, why?, because it is a share like you and I limited in time and Spatial.

#2 some oneness believe that God could not have been twelve years old, and be creator and maker of all things. all people should understand this, Jeremiah 32:27 "Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?”. and this, Genesis 18:14 "Is any thing too hard for the LORD? At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son”. one more, Mark 10:27 "And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible”. hmmmmmm, knowing that, men have no clue as to what God can or cannot do, we just don know. what men don’t know, (MANY), is diversity, and how God manifested himself in flesh and was twelve years old, and grew in wisdom. without proper teaching and correct understanding of the scriptures, the oneness fails just as bad as the trinitarians and many other who do not understand God’s plurality of ONE. not an echad, nor do they understand how could God anointed his own self with his own Spirit at the baptism of the Lord Jesus. many say that he’s a God-man, let see, scripture, Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:”. likeness is not “IS”. for the apostle wrote in Hebrews it very clear, Hebrews 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;". so God is not a "partaker in flesh and blood, but only "Took Part" in it, simply put God is God, and man is man. but we’ll give them the recipe to God oneness, and yet he’s a plurality at the same time in oneness. the answer is found, “diversity”. this is God truth hidden from them, (natural), until now. it’s in plain sight. someone once said, “if you don’t want someone to find what you have hidden, just put it so close to them until they look right over it”. sometimes thing be so close, or right in front of us until we cannot see it with our own eyes.

I know many would say, “how can this be”. remember Jeremiah 32:27, Genesis 18:14, and Mark 10:27. it is by God, himself, example, the Spirit, Zechariah 4:6 "Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts”. notice the small case “s” in spirit. but is not God a (S)pirit? John 4:24a. and that (s)pirit is the LORD’S. can we be sure of this, YES, 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Now the Lord is that Spirit: (BINGO), and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty”. that Spirit of the Lord also answer the, "Who sent the Son?", listen, Isaiah 48:16 "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me". well according to 2 Corinthians 3:17 is not the capitalization of the “S” in Spirit is God?. so the Lord, capital “L” is God is the Spirit, the same one Spirit. but this one Spirit, that is "Lord" sent who? SEE IT NOW.... (smile). so the oneness doctrine as the UPC teaches is laid to waste, and in ERROR, if God is only one person in action without diversification, which is nothing but modalism. and with the trinity doctrine, modalism in reverse. but diversified oneness answers that problem in the fact that God is the equal “share” of himself as Spirit/spirit, (hence the plurality of God as ONE, yet without modalism in either directions). in Spirit/spirit that operates as one in a “numerical fashion in differentiation", and in "numerical distinctness as one". this is where the trinitarians error at. they error in distinctness of differentiation as in many while Oneness, as the UPC teaches, error in distinctness of none. both fail. only Diversified Oneness answer the Godhead correctly.

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Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool”.
ANOTHER enemy put under his foot.

“The virgin birth technical side”
Mary is not the biological mother, but the surrogate mother to the Lord Jesus Body, ONLY

A. argument from the Bible/the Truth in Scriptures, or B. argument from Ignorance.​

again we choose A. Looking at this virgin birth on the fleshly side, “a child is born”, Isaiah 9:6, and a son given. Some people think the only way for a woman to conceive is only by contributing her egg, and the male sperm. Naturally, yes, and because of that union, sperm and egg, no human offspring can be totally sin free, before Christ coming and dying on the cross. that's true by natural conception. But looking closely at this in detail, John 1:13 "Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God". this scripture, many say is pertaining to the NEW BIRTH. I suggest one notice the “and” at the beginning of verse 14, which is a continue of verse 13. Listen, 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth”. so we see no DNA, from any male sperm was transferred by the flesh, nor any egg supplied by Mary of her flesh. so a male sperm is out, and also a female egg is out. Question then?, what was conceive or begotten in Mary?. what do conceive means. Greek G1080 means Beget, this word connotes, "the present participle of huparcho, "to exist," which always involves a preexistent state, prior to the fact referred to, and a continuance of the state after the fact. (remember, a spirit is given, not born, see Isaiah 42:5). Thus in Phil 2:6, the phrase "who being (huparchon) in the form of God," implies His preexistent Deity, (Spirit), previous to the birth of his flesh. he was, or “I AM, before his flesh, again the “us”, and the “our” in Genesis is confirmed, and as the Maker and creator of all things. as in the First, (Spirit) and the Last, (spirit), which is he, the one and only true God. so, God the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, is Jesus, without flesh and bones and with blood.

Let’s break this down in layman terms, the flesh was made by God himself. yes made by God. Mary and Joseph, had nothing to do with the Lord Jesus the Christ conception, nor any natural man or woman, or angel. Mary only birth flesh for the shared Spirit to dwell in, the diversified (shared) spirit to come into this world. she was only the surrogate mother, and that flesh, that she generated for nine month, took on the name of God to manifest himself in the earth realm. so, no, and I say again “NO”, Mary is not the Mother of the Lord JESU himself, but she is ONLY THE BIRTH MOTHER TO THE FLESH THAT GOD CAME IN, why?. by preexistent of the nature, (Spirit), it had the name already, because God always existed, only that flesh that Mary birth had a beginning, not the spirit that dwelt in it. what?, yes, already, he, God, his name was in existence before the flesh was conceive in Mary’s womb. lets see, scripture Luke 2:21"And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb". that's right he had that name before he was even conceived in the womb, before the flesh was even in her womb, the name was already in existence. BINGO. and by natural birth or being born, it was brought forth as a NATURAL BIRTH according to the flesh, why? because the flesh is called an "it", and God is never an it, see 1 Corinthians chapter 15:35-50. it was born in the nation called Israel of the tribe of Judah. Please note he came out from Judah, not from in it. Hebrews 7:14 "For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood”. see, he sprang out, NOT ”FROM” Judah. notice what was “born”. Luke 2:11 "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord". what was born is flesh, no woman can birth a spirit, for spirits are given per Isaiah 42:5.


God who is the maker of the body of flesh FOR HIMSELF as with the first Adam, as well as with Eve. God made Eve, her (body), from Adam, (body), without sperm or egg. this is called "Preternatural". remember this word. And the scriptures states that this conception was in her, not “by” her, meaning Mary. what is the account of this conception. here's the scripture. Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing, (thing, here means flesh), which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God". notice shall be called, not named, but called Son of God, (flesh is born), Son of God means flesh on earth. go back to Isaiah. 9:6, "unto us a child is born". so Son of God means, flesh in nature, a nature that will suffer the cross.
note also the word overshadow here, it's the Greek word G1982 ἐπισκιάζω episkiazo (ep-ee-skee-ad'-zo) v.
1. to cast a shade upon
2. (by analogy) to envelop in a haze of brilliancy
3. (figuratively) to invest with preternatural influence
my source for this definition is the Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments.

take note of the 3rd. reference. "to invest with preternatural influence", what do preternatural means?. I asked for us to remember this word. It means, "out of the ordinary course of nature; exceptional or abnormal". the meaning here, not in the natural way of conception between a man and a women. this body as I have said, God conceived or God made, and “formed” in Mary’s womb. Did he not formed Jeremiah body in his mothers womb before he was born, or brought forth? yes, as with ours. for the scripture states, "prepare me a body"', see Hebrews 10:5. notice it said prepare, not create a body. by making or preparing a body as he did Adam's with preexisting material, earth. God, with his pre-existence, the first law of thermodynamic is not violated, and as he did with the heaven, as well with the earth, he can make, perpare anything he wants. so that body/flesh was prepared/made from the invisible, made he it visible. The flesh/body was made visible to enclosed the spirit, or the equal Share, or the diversified state of God himself that was to come, MANIFESTED in flesh. (again the “us”, and the “our” in Genesis 1:26 is confirmed of he, as the us, and the our to COME). the Word simply means the expression of thought made manifested. But wat was made manifested always existed, so it was not a “THOUGHT” as many say it was no, and I again say NO, it was an “ACTION” of God own will to save man. NO THOUGHT, but an ACT of the will of God. John 1:1 what do this mean, it is the abstract of the concrete/God/Spirit, acting on behalf of his OWN “WILL” to save man. in layman terms, a way for God/the Spirit to make his actions/will known unto man, meaning manifesting his wills in a concrete fashion. supportive scripture, Matthew 26:42 "He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done”. for our Lord Jesus who is the ARM of God is the “OBJECTIVE” or the present of God in flesh to carry out his will in the salvation of man.


So, God, the Lord Jesus is not a thought, but God himself in flesh. carrying out his own “WILL” in concrete form. and to do that Mary, the surrogate mother to the Lord Jesus Body that he came in. only her womb was used to generate the flesh, and birth flesh that the spirit came in, and thats all



ANOTHER enemy under his foot.
enemy 1. the Lord Jesus is not a "THOUGHT", false teaching

enemy 2. Mary is not "the mother of GOD", False theaching.

enemy 3.Jesus is "not the messiah", False theaching.

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PS one other enemy under his foot. the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost is the FATHER....