Mark of the Beast?

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I still hope in Rapture. But if we're already in Tribulation then the AC will need to catapult himself very soon, as I thought his presence would be already there in the start of Tribulation.
 

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So then that being "man's way/system" where and how can one see the contrast in God's?

"Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven." Matt 18:21-22
Revelation tells us '.....here are they that keep the Commandments of God and the faith of Jesus'. This is stated in contrast to those who violate his Commandments yet give lip service to his faith........you can expand that within its boundaries.

Grasping how Justice and Mercy are brought into harmony......knowing the claims of Justice and the heart of Mercy. These are matters which the world knows not of because their way/system is charted according to their willing ignorance.
 
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Bobby Jo

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Bobby Jo said:
Per my best understanding of Bible Prophecy (per the J.R. Church "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms" premise), we're already some 24 months into the 42 month Tribulation (Ref. Rev. 13:5), with 18 months to go.

What initiated it, @Bobby Jo

? The Prophetic Psalms ?

Have you read the Psalms in context with the J.R. Church "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms" premise?

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I still hope in Rapture. But if we're already in Tribulation then the AC will need to catapult himself very soon, as I thought his presence would be already there in the start of Tribulation.

The a/c's 97th birthday is in a week, but your expectation that this FALSE PROPHET is a participant at the START of the 42 months (Rev. 13:5) is incorrect. Certainly the BEAST has been around since 1945, and it's presence is increasingly manifest in significant aspects of our governmental and personal affairs.

Perhaps we could start this discussion at the beginning so that you can arrive at a conclusion, rather than jump to a conclusion.
Bobby Jo
 

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Blessings in Christ Jesus! To whom does one serve, and follow after(chase after), the god of gold and silver or The Lord who has promised to supply our every need. When one follows the god of gold and silver, that image(money) even speaks. It is not a wonder that it is said that one can not serve two masters. When the devil himself, back then, walked out the front door with my room mate(possessed) he stopped, turned around, and with a smirk on his face, said, so, it all comes down to money, doesn't it. He then started to laugh as he walked out the door. So it all comes down to being One with The Lord, or being one with the beast. Sealed until The Day of Redemption, or destined to follow the great red dragon to his appointed place. "To he who has wisdom, let him hear and understand."

Agree, ...but ....man has ALWAYS sought riches since the beggining...why would it be written as it is if that is it? ...there is no mystery in "receiving " some mark re silver and gold.
We have never been able to buy or sell without it.
Money has always been traded...if that be so then all Christians have received the Mark...we all have money stashed away somewhere, so we all worship the beast!!
 

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I still hope in Rapture. But if we're already in Tribulation then the AC will need to catapult himself very soon, as I thought his presence would be already there in the start of Tribulation.

Well , just don't hope in the rapture too much!

As King David said -
" My hope in in the Lord which made heaven and earth.."
 
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I don't believe that "Cain" was a one-world-government.
Perhaps you aren't understanding what a One World Government Truly is.

I would suggest you study Jude and the Way of Cain...

Jude 1:11
"Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core"


This is your One World Government...

Jude 1:6
"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day"

It will happen again. Sons of God + Daughters of Men. As above, so below.

 

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This is what 666 and Gold have in common...

Exodus 32:31
"And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold"


Again...

Exodus 20:23
"Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold"


And again...

Daniel 5:4
"They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold, and of silver, of brass, of iron, of wood, and of stone"
 

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Perhaps you aren't understanding what a One World Government Truly is....

I think I know EXACTLY who/what the One-World-Government is, when it was, where it is, how it operates, and who's included -- including the ten horns.

But I would equally suspect you can't even explain why Rev. 12 says SEVEN DIADEMS, but Rev. 13 says TEN DIADEMS.


Have you considered taking a course in Bible Prophecy so you're better informed?
Bobby Jo
 

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This is what 666 and Gold have in common...

-- Nothing which you ascribe. Perhaps if you started with the BEAST, you could arrive to his NAME and his METHODOLOGY.


If people can't get the simple, they shouldn't attempt the complex,
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Consider that the two men [out of 600,000] specifically mentioned by name as being able to enter the Promised Land did not get to bypass the 40 years in the wilderness along with all those rebels! Joshua and Caleb also suffered physically with the others but the primary difference or advantage or reward for them came when the 40 years were finished.

As I was saying to H2S, we will all find out one day. :D

Doesn't matter whether if we have pre-trib, post-trib views, etc. We will find out one day, whether if we are watching from Heaven or still here on earth.

It's not something to wish for to be going through the Revelation-tribulation. The Revelation tribulation are going to be some awful times for both believers and non-believers, but those that are martyred for their faith in Jesus will be blessed very greatly in Heaven.

Especially for younger Christians around my age, if it was going to be post-tribulation, it's not something to wish for to happen in the next 70 years. In fact we much rather pre-tribulation and be caught up in the clouds before if it was going to happen in the next 70 years. :D

Then again no human being knows the time and date any of this will happen, whether it be caught up in the clouds before or after.
 
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As I was saying to H2S, we will all find out one day. :D

Doesn't matter whether if we have pre-trib, post-trib views, etc. We will find out one day, whether if we are watching from Heaven or still here on earth.

It's not something to wish for to be going through the Revelation-tribulation. The Revelation tribulation are going to be some awful times for both believers and non-believers, but those that are martyred for their faith in Jesus will be blessed very greatly in Heaven.

Especially for younger Christians around my age, if it was going to be post-tribulation, it's not something to wish for to happen in the next 70 years. In fact we much rather pre-tribulation and be caught up in the clouds before if it was going to happen in the next 70 years. :D

Then again no human being knows the time and date any of this will happen, whether it be caught up in the clouds before or after.

"And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." Matt 26:39
 

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... Doesn't matter whether if we have pre-trib, post-trib views, etc. ...

I would MOST STRONGLY suggest that our pre-/mid-/post-/post-Millennial views GREATLY MATTER.

If a person believes he/she will go through the Tribulation (as Scripture dictates), they SHOULD be more inclined to prepare their household for those difficult days. However if a person believes he/she will be "raptured" and doesn't prepare their hoousehold, then what will they do? Even today we have LIMITS on certain items, -- can you imagine when christians won't be able to purchase ANYTHING?!?

How will they provide for their families? Will they end up on the streets and ultimately in some Concentration Camp? Or will they succumb to the Mark of the Beast? -- Peter yielded under the pressure in the Courtyard, and he was a DISCIPLE. Will milk fed christians fare any better?


As such, I would propose that your premise is NOT practical, but in fact it's DANGEROUS for any Tribulation era "rapture" believer when it doesn't happen. Conversely, if that FALSE doctrine should come to pass, the PREPARED individual won't suffer either way. So I MOST STRONGLY ADVISE CHRISTIANS to PREPARE for tomorrow, exactly as Jesus provided in HIS Final Instructions before going to the Garden of Gethsemane:

Lke 22:35 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one.


And yes, Scripture provides that we're already some 24 months into the 42 month (Rev. 13:5) Tribulation, -- leaving some 18 months to go.
Bobby Jo
 

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Let's try this another way...

6 Neutrons
6 Protons
6 Electrons


666 is the Carbon Atom. Another Biblical word for 666 is ASHES. The more you folks study the word Ashes in the Bible, the more you will understand the Mark of the Beast.

Again, let's let the Word of God teach us...

Genesis 18:27
"And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes"


Listen to Abraham! He knows what he's talking about...

Dust = Nitrogenous Bases (777)
Ashes = Carbon (666)


We are Carbon Based Life Forms. Simple. Now go and study Isaiah 44. I will help...

Isaiah 44:9
"They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed"


Scripture is about to teach us how to make a God...

Isaiah 44:10
"Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing?"


Graven Images are all about making Gods. One day this will be REAL... as in Image of the Beast. This is why God gets so mad when He sees us doing this. He knows what will happen!

Continuing on...

Isaiah 44:13
"The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house"


Does anyone here know what a Plane is? It is a Square... as in Square and Compass...

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Like making a God out of the ASHlar.

Next...

Isaiah 44:14
"He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it"


What does he plant? Burn this into your brains... ASH.

What does he do with said Ash?

Isaiah 44:15
"Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto"


HE MAKES THE MAN OF SIN OUT OF ASH!

666.

OK?

Once more...

Isaiah 44:16
"He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied: yea, he warmeth himself, and saith, Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire"


He BURNS it. As in MAKES ASHES... aka... 666. Look...

Isaiah 44:17
"And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god"


Out of the Carbon 666 Ash residue, he makes a God!

I urge you folks here to PLEASE let the Bible teach you what the Mark of the Beast is.

It's all there!!!

Isaiah 44:19
"And none considereth in his heart, neither is there knowledge nor understanding to say, I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten it: and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree?"


Abomination of Desolation? Hello? Anyone?

What are they eating??!?!??

Isaiah 44:20
"He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, Is there not a lie in my right hand?"


They feedeth on 666!!! There is a lie in their Right Hand!!! As in Mark in the Right Hand.

Honestly folks. I can't see how God can make it any more obvious. Did anyone even notice the word Coals?

Coals again is Carbon/666...

Ezekiel 10:2
"And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight"


  • The Cherubim represent Nitrogen Bases... aka... 777.
  • The Coals represent Carbon... aka... 666.

Both Atoms combine to create the letters of DNA. A, C, G, T.

God even went so far as to make Strong's Hebrew 666 line up with Ashes...

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It's so easy, a Caveman can understand it...

 
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So then that being "man's way/system" where and how can one see the contrast in God's?

"Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven." Matt 18:21-22

Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. [9] For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Man’s thoughts and man’s ways are not God’s ways and God’s thoughts.

Matthew 20:26-28 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; [27] And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: [28] Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Luke 12:37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. o_O
 
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