Mark of the Beast?

Waiting on him · Apr 19, 2020

Joseph77 said:
Where can anyone in the world turn today to be healed (saved), nurtured, encouraged, (in truth, not in death),

restored (to God) ?

Face to face.

Joseph77 · Apr 19, 2020

Waiting on him said:
Behold the Leviathan!!!!!

There seems to be a molar there on the left side that might need to be taken out.....

Joseph77 · Apr 19, 2020

Waiting on him said:
Face to face.

With WHO ? Fakers? Huypocrits? Politic and religious false leaders ?

No, of course not.... yes as you say - when they see the life of Jesus, when they know you are disciples with Jesus IN PERSON SEEING THIS - daily,
face to face, yes, yes, yes.....

Waiting on him · Apr 19, 2020

Joseph77 said:
With WHO ? Fakers? Huypocrits? Politic and religious false leaders ?

No, of course not.... yes as you say - when they see the life of Jesus, when they know you are disciples with Jesus IN PERSON SEEING THIS - daily,
face to face, yes, yes, yes.....

God manifest..

Waiting on him · Apr 19, 2020

Waiting on him · Apr 19, 2020

We have these beautiful little yellow finches here, they love sunflower seeds.

Joseph77 · Apr 19, 2020

All the creatures** look to the Creator for their DAILY FOOD. He is FAITHFUL and JUST in all things.

**except, of course, men/ mankind/ society trusting the foxes.

Truther · Apr 19, 2020

Heart2Soul said:
I know this is a topic that has been discussed endlessly among Christians but if you will endure one more thread I have been searching this for a while now.

What first caught my attention and got my mind to seek a deeper understanding was the scripture in
1 Kings 10:14
14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold.

If we look back at the law for kings in Deuteronomy 17, It prohibits the king from multiplying horses and chariots, wives, and wealth. This is exactly what Solomon is doing in 1 Kings 10-11. Chapter ten begins by commending his great wisdom, but then steps through his decline - that is, he begins violating the rules for kings by multiplying gold (666 talents a year), multiplying horses and chariots, and finally multiplying wives who turn his heart away from following Yahweh. He sets up centers of false worship for all the foreign gods of his wives. So, the number 666 is associated with Solomon in his fall, his abuse of power, and his turning away from true worship of Yahweh.

In Revelation, Jesus sets up worship interactions under the symbol of business transactions - buying and selling.

I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see.

This is picked up in chapter 13 with reference to worship in the false temple - the image set up by the beast which must be worshiped on pain of death. Everyone must worship the image, but no one may do so without the mark. The buying and selling referred to here is of the same kind established by Jesus in chapter 3. It is worship - spiritual transactions.

Now go to Nebuchadnezzar....
Daniel 3:1 1King Nebuchadnezzar made a golden statue sixty cubits high and six cubits wide, and he set it up on the plain of Dura in the province of Babylon.

King Nebuchadnezzar made an image of gold, whose height was sixty cubits and its breadth six cubits... And the herald proclaimed aloud, “You are commanded, O peoples, nations, and languages, that when you hear the sound of the horn, pipe, lyre, trigon, harp, bagpipe, and every kind of music, you are to fall down and worship the golden image that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up. And whoever does not fall down and worship shall immediately be cast into a burning fiery furnace.”

Nebuchadnezzar is acting as a beast (and later, even more so) and sets up an image to be worshiped. Again, we have six and sixty associated with worship of a false image on pain of death.

All of this comes together in the name and number of the man - 666. This sums up man in his fallen state. The number carries with it the fallen glory of Solomon, his degraded wisdom, his failure to follow the word of God, his abuse of power, and his allowing himself to be turned aside to the worship of impotent gods.

Now let's move to the NT:
1 Timothy 6:10 King James Version (KJV)
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

There are more scriptures but here is my point...
wealth was the downfall of Solomon, Nebuchadnezzar, and according to 1 Timothy caused many to err from the faith when they coveted it.
Money is an idol to so many people.

So now to today's economy....if the U.S. economy collapses the whole world economy collapses....
Digital money is now being sold and bought as a world currency....(bitcoins for one)
Is it possible that the mark of the Beast will be this world currency in the form of digital money?

any thoughts?

I don't think he mark is the money, but the money is used per the mark.

The mark is an identifier, allowing folks to use the money.

Nobody will know precisely what the mark is until the angel of Revelation, in chapter 14, personally shows mankind what not to take.

Joseph77 · Apr 19, 2020

Truther said:
Nobody will know precisely what the mark is until the angel of Revelation, in chapter 14, personally shows mankind what not to take.

1st step. 1st question: Does Jesus KNOW ?
(this is NOT rhetorical)

Timtofly · Apr 19, 2020

Dcopymope said:
Regardless of however you came to that conclusion from reading Matthew 24, revelation says something entirely different. For those people who believe they will be whisked away before the stink really hits the fan, they will be in for a rather rude awakening, and you can count on that. You're not anymore special to God as a gentile believer than the Jews.

You realize the rude awaking is being whisked away?

All humanity alive will know the truth, and since God is doing the action, God is not rude. It is rude to ignore God's warnings.

GTW27 · Apr 19, 2020

Helen said:
Agree, ...but ....man has ALWAYS sought riches since the beggining...why would it be written as it is if that is it? ...there is no mystery in "receiving " some mark re silver and gold.
We have never been able to buy or sell without it.
Money has always been traded...if that be so then all Christians have received the Mark...we all have money stashed away somewhere, so we all worship the beast!!

"Worshiping the god of gold and silver is worshiping the beast" "You shall have no other gods beside Me" Personally I hate money, for I see what it does to man. And these words I have received along the way, "Money comes, and money goes, anything more than that comes from evil." Words to ponder.
Have a Blessed Day Helen!

Bobby Jo · Apr 19, 2020

Elihoenai said:
"... Satan is worshipped by men under the name of Jesus ...

Speak for yourself.

Bobby Jo

To All,

Deceivers would divest you of your faith if possible. And they accuse YOU of their own sins.

Bobby Jo

VictoryinJesus · Apr 19, 2020

Bobby Jo said:
Stop misquoting Scripiture: DAY or HOUR. Got it? -- DAY or HOUR.

And yes, we are supposed to know the event certainly to the year and season, and even to the week:

1 Thess. 5:2 For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief.

1 Thess. 5:2 For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief.

It is right in front of our faces, manifest, and revealed. Even in the trial there is loss. See one with cancer and dying at a young age and loosing time with their families. Like Job. Loss upon loss. Everything around them has crumbled. Outwardly they are weak and fail yet through all the pain and suffering and trial and loss of this life ...they proclaim no thief has come upon them by surprise but instead God has given Life...of the day and not the night. Giving the reason for their Hope...with their “Lights burning.” Anyone who is not stolen from, killed, or destroyed has bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
Lights burning. Of the day and not the night, Not surprised and come upon unawares but Hebrews 10:31-34 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. [32] But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions; [33] Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used. [34] For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.

Psalm 97:3-4 A fire goeth before him, and burneth up his enemies round about. [4] His lightnings enlightened the world: the earth saw, and trembled.

John 10:10-14 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, (an enduring substance) and that they might have it (an enduring substance)more abundantly. [11] I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life (an enduring substance)for the sheep. [12] But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. [13] The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. [14] I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. (so they are not caught unaware or by surprise,)
Luke 12:33-35 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. [34] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. [35] Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;

1 Peter 1:23-25 Being born again, not of corruptible seed,(moth consumed) but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth (an enduring substance)for ever. [24] For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass(glory of man) withereth, and the flower (glory)thereof falleth (falls) away: [25] But the word of the Lord (God’s Glory)endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

Bobby Jo · Apr 19, 2020

GTW27 said:
"Worshiping the god of gold and silver is worshiping the beast" ...

... and eating "crow" is literal; etc.

You have NO IDEA who/what the "beast" is, so you assign imaginary attributes.

People are silly,
Bobby Jo

Truther · Apr 19, 2020

Joseph77 said:
1st step. 1st question: Does Jesus KNOW ?
(this is NOT rhetorical)

Yes.

Bobby Jo · Apr 19, 2020

VictoryinJesus said:
1 Thess. 5:2 For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief.

It is right in front of our faces, manifest, and revealed. ...

You assert knowledge of the "day" (which is to say Year and Season of Jesus return, and possibly the Month and even the Week), but then ascribe unrelated verses. -- Perhaps you don't know the Year and Season, but should.

It's a simple Scriptural premise, which doesn't require adding the years since Adam as most ill-informed people typically assert. It's straight forward in the Prophetic Psalms. (Ref. J.R. Church, "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms")

Bobby Jo

Joseph77 · Apr 19, 2020

Truther said:
Yes.

Good and Right and True !

Truther · Apr 19, 2020

Joseph77 said:
Good and Right and True !

Yes

VictoryinJesus · Apr 19, 2020

Bobby Jo said:
You assert knowledge of the "day" (which is to say Year and Season of Jesus return, and possibly the Month and even the Week), but then ascribe unrelated verses. -- Perhaps you don't know the Year and Season, but should.

It's a simple Scriptural premise, which doesn't require adding the years since Adam as most ill-informed people typically assert. It's straight forward in the Prophetic Psalms. (Ref. J.R. Church, "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms")

Bobby Jo

A gun or sword or any other carnal weapon won’t keep anyone from perishing. No reserve or stock or preparedness other than that prepared of God, made without hands.

Helen · Apr 19, 2020

GTW27 said:
"Worshiping the god of gold and silver is worshiping the beast" "You shall have no other gods beside Me" Personally I hate money, for I see what it does to man. And these words I have received along the way, "Money comes, and money goes, anything more than that comes from evil." Words to ponder.
Have a Blessed Day Helen!

Thanks...

I agree with you...and it is worshipped by some. Yet God Himself increased it for Job, Abraham and Solomon.... the NT does indeed warn the the LOVE of money is the root of all evil.....but I do not believe that it is THE Beast ....
But if it is it is no mystery , and where would the number of the beast come for if that is the case?

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