PETER AND PAUL PREACHED DIFFERENT GOSPELS

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reformed1689

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Yes, but, Peter preached to believe on the name of Jesus (Matthew 16:16), that he is Christ, the Son of God, nothing of the cross, nothing of his death and resurrection until the Lord opened their understanding........but his death was to forgive their sins under the covenant (Hebrews 9:15) and his resurrection was to ascend until his coming to sit on the throne of David (Acts 2:30).
John and all the disciples preached only the name of Jesus (John 20:31). John 3:16 says nothing of the cross.
You can't say John didn't preach the cross. John 3:16 wasn't written in isolation....
 

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Again, one
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Again, one verse taken out of context. Peter's epistles definitely speak of the death and resurrection of Christ. He did not preach a different Gospel than John or Paul. It was all the same.
 

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Gal 1 6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

If peter taught a different Gospel than Paul. According to Paul Peter was to be anathema
That is wrongful application...Jesus taught Peter the gospel he preached. The gospel Peter preached was set aside until the future tribulation.
 

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Boy is that easy to answer! ;) Christians had been wary of Paul because of his past misdeeds, and he had to prove himself. Christian leaders may have been skeptical of Paul, or perhaps others had been trying to slander Paul.

Paul's answer, however, is unmistakable: we preach the same Gospel, whether to the Jews or to the Gentiles. Jesus told the 12 apostles to start in Jerusalem and work out beyond Israel to all the nations. Paul did the same thing. He preached "to the Jew 1st, and also to the Greek." Same Gospel. All the apostles were told to go "into all nations." Paul was told to "go to the Gentiles," which is the equivalent of "go to all nations."
Galatians 2:2 does not say Paul defended the gospel he preached, he communicated it, he gave it to them. Jesus and the twelve preached the gospel of the kingdom, not the gospel of grace.
 

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You can't say John didn't preach the cross. John 3:16 wasn't written in isolation....
Show me the cross in John 3:16, not just what you say it says by reading Paul back into it. John 3:16 was before the cross.
 

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Again, one verse taken out of context. Peter's epistles definitely speak of the death and resurrection of Christ. He did not preach a different Gospel than John or Paul. It was all the same.
You asked for a verse to show Peter's gospel, then say it is out of context.
 

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Sure you can. John wrote a whole book about it. You take verses as if they were written in isolation and do not correlate with anything else.
You have not cited verses that show the twelve preaching Paul's gospel.
If you believe Paul's gospel that ends all controversy, but we must understand the Bible to rightly divide it.
 

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Galatians 2:2 does not say Paul defended the gospel he preached, he communicated it, he gave it to them. Jesus and the twelve preached the gospel of the kingdom, not the gospel of grace.

Your problem is your conception of <the kingdom>. Jesus told his disciples the Kingdom He was about to WIN was the one Adam LOST and surrendered to the devil. Jesus was about to finally restore the "KINGDOM OF MY FATHER" on the battlefield in hell.
 

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OK. You want verses. Gal. 2 refers to an unmentioned disagreement between Peter & Paul. Galatians 2:11: "When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face....Before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group." 2:12 When he (Peter) first arrived, he ate with gentile believers. But afterwards, when some from James arrived, Peter wouldn't eat with Gentiles anymore. He was afraid of those who insisted on the necessity of circumcision. 2:13 "The rest of the Jews joined in this charade and even Barnabas was drawn into this hypocrisy." The story is also found in Acts 11:1-3 "When Peter went up to Jerusalem, the circumcised believers criticized him and said, "You went into the house of the circumcised and ate with them." Acts 21:24 describes Paul being directed to undergo the Nazarean oath to prove that he supports the Jewish Laws. They disagreed! Its not the end of the world. Fallible humans can disagree on their understanding of things. It was clear from many of Jesus' statements that his followers did not understand his message; Jesus stated this repeatedly! This dispute between Peter & Paul is an example of the haziness the disciples had regarding the message of Jesus. As Christians, we need to be more humble regarding our confidence in the sometimes subtle message of Jesus. The message regarding Christ crucified and risen for the forgiveness of sins is nowhere disputed in the New Testament. But, many Christian denominations dispute various aspects of the New Testament. The scholars who have debated these various differences are very well versed in their understanding of the Bible. We can embrace this uncertainty and shroud ourselves in humility when it comes to the more subtle messages in the New Testament.
 

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Acts 21:24 describes Paul being directed to undergo the Nazarean oath to prove that he supports the Jewish Laws.

UNTRUE! On the contrary, according to those ridiculous Jewish laws four of their zealots for company and you are disencumbered and that was exactly what his brethren supplied Paul with SO THAT HE WOULD NOT HAVE TO TAKE THE OATH; he only had to also shave his head like a Nazarene would.
It sounds so LEARNED to simply add one's own <subtleties> to understand about Jesus, MY WAY!
 

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Your problem is your conception of <the kingdom>. Jesus told his disciples the Kingdom He was about to WIN was the one Adam LOST and surrendered to the devil. Jesus was about to finally restore the "KINGDOM OF MY FATHER" on the battlefield in hell.
God is in Christ reconciling heaven and earth. The church, the body of Christ, reconciles heavenly places when God removes Satan and the angels. Israel reconciles the earth in the earthly kingdom.
 

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"The Son of Man came to give Himself a ransom for many" Mark 10:45 Matthew 20:28 1 Timothy 2:6
Yes for many, believing Israel, to forgive their sins under the covenant (Hebrews 9:15). Paul revealed the cross was for the redemption of all who will believe.
 

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That is wrongful application...Jesus taught Peter the gospel he preached. The gospel Peter preached was set aside until the future tribulation.
There is only one gospel man

peter taught what Paul taught. Jesus crucified and risen again
 

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When God sent the incarnate Christ to exemplify himself and his Kingdom to mankind he chose to do so in the centre of a Mediterranean region mainly committed to the religion of Judaism.
Understandably, Christ’s short 3 year ministry was dominated by the need to correct Judaism’s misplaced expectation of their ‘birthright’ restoration to the earthly Jerusalem; punctuated only by brief asides such as “other sheep have I which are not of this fold, them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold and one shepherd”.

All of the writings canonised into an extension of Judaism’s ‘Old Testament’ were instigated by Jews with repeated reference to the #12 (tribes of Israel and appointed apostles, for example).
However, in “opening up Christ’s fold to his other sheep" the #12 mould was broken by the appointment of a 13th apostle in the person of Paul, whose writings taught that henceforth there would be “Neither Jew nor Gentile, for you are all one in Christ Jesus”.

Otherwise, the remaining New Testament writings (including Revelation in particular) where dominated by the repeated influence of the writers’ ingrained ‘#12’ religion of Judaism (and that applies to more than just Peter).

The burden of the ministry (mainly borne by Paul) is evident in his letter to the Galatians where he strives to counter the tendency of converted Jews to revert back to Judaism (“O foolish Galatians who hath bewitched you, I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel").

I commend well established believers to read (again and again) the remainder of Paul’s letter to the Hebrews, beginning at chapter 6 verse 1-6
“Let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity. Not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works, of faith toward God, of instruction about washings, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment (which we will do if God permits).
For it is impossible to restore again to repentance, those who have once been enlightened, have tasted the heavenly gift, have shared in the Holy Spirit, have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, since they would thereby be crucifying once again the Son of God”

Paying particular attention to chapter 9 verses 7&8: “Into the second tabernacle went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people: The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing”
 
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