Help Me...thinking Of Suicide

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lostSheep

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i love this girl...i really love her...i'd give my life for her.we were close, VERY close. she knows i love her.then a jerk guy, her friend, set me up. the jerk guy tells me stuffs about the girl behind her back that isn't nice through Yahoo Messenger. i made a printscreen image of the messages i had been receiving then showed them to her.she didn't believe me. i heard from other people that she thinks i made those images up. now they're together...girlfriend/boyfriend and all.i don't get to talk to her anymore, nor clean up my name. this is a simplification of the whole story. a lot more has happened. i miss her...i don't know how to continue...i was set up, i'm innocent, but i lost her to a jerk guy...
 

Christina

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We all have experienced heartbreak yes it hurts but killing oneself over it not an answer ...If she didnt believe you then she never loved you ..true love is not one sided but two sided this does not seem to be the case ... might I ask what you think suicide is going to change ? Do you think its going fix anything ? Your soul/spirit doesnt die you will just condem your soul to suffer for breaking Gods commandment Thou shall not kill .. means one self as well as another you are his child he loves you to consider taking ones own life is kill one of Gods chilren...
 

lostSheep

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We all have experienced heartbreak yes it hurts but killing oneself over it not an answer ...If she didnt believe you then she never loved you ..true love is not one sided but two sided this does not seem to be the case ... might I ask what you think suicide is going to change ? Do you think its going fix anything ? Your soul/spirit doesnt die you will just condem your soul to suffer for breaking Gods commandment Thou shall not kill .. means one self as well as another you are his child he loves you to consider taking ones own life is kill one of Gods chilren...
she couldn't believe me because the guy set me up in a way that she can't possibly believe me. i was set up. i feel like a criminal convicted of a crime and i can't show that i'm innocent.this is really killing me...
 

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she couldn't believe me because the guy set me up in a way that she can't possibly believe me. i was set up. i feel like a criminal convicted of a crime and i can't show that i'm innocent.this is really killing me...
I agree with Kriss .... God loves you and wants you here .I am glad to see you are asking for prayers. Also take some deep breaths .... I will be honored to pray with and for you....but I need you here to do that. ...Heavenly Father , we need your divine touch, embrace lostsheep888 with your Holy Spirit, bringing peace of mind and strength, replace negative thoughts with postive ones, let your calming reassurace rest upon lostsheep888, we ask faithfully in your precious name, Amen.Please continue to talk things out and you are not alone .God bless you
 

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Let me ask a question if the tables were turned and she had been steup would you have believed her ?
 

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Oh no... Dear lostsheep888, I am terribly sorry that you are going through this. Suicide is not an answer and never will be. It will cause more pain to people than you think. I tried this twice in my lifetime... it's not worth the pain to increase pain of others especially to a love one who did not believe you.Your female friend, who does not believe you... please pray for her, at the same time, share your problems with God in Jesus's name. Share and pray that you will get away from this mess. God is willingly to help one get away from this mess, but you have to trust in Him and work with Him.I can only pray for you, cause we, here, want to help you. But please, don't think suicide...
 

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Suicide is not the answer, its not going to solve your problems or fix one thing for you. Like others have stated here think of the people that would be hurt emotionally by your action. God loves you to much to see you do a thing like that, and gods never going to test you more than what you can handle:1st Corinthians 10:13 "No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and god is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it"Just remember god is love: 1st John 4:16 "We have come to know and have beleived the love which god has for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in god, and god abides in him"and remember that nothing can seperate us from gods love: Romans 8:39 "Nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of god, which is in christ jesus our lord"I hope those scriptures have helped and if you need to talk to someone you can talk to me if need be
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lostSheep

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Let me ask a question if the tables were turned and she had been steup would you have believed her ?
Yes. very much so. @everyone - thanks for the prayers...i don't know what to do...how to get over this...i tried doing activities, and other distractions, but i get reminded of her in everything and everywhere i go...i once asked Him if she's the one for me...if she's my "forever"...and got a nice happy glittering chill down me suddenly after I ask that, i took it as a yes...and now i lost her...
 

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Then doesnt that tell you something ?..If she had truly loved you ... She would have given you the same benefit of doubt that you would have given her.... Only time will heal you .... taking ones life over someone who never really truly loved you in the first place is not any answer .... There is a real two way love waiting for in the future ..and you will find this whole thing unimportant I know its hard to believe now ...but its happened a million times ...and to most peole in one form or another ..Just trust God he has something true and better for you down the road ...
 

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Lostsheep888you know the help you need already, its in your username...you know what jesus does with lost sheep HE FINDS THEM let him...stop trying to deal with this situation by yourself, stop trying to live this life by yourself, theres only one thing which comes from living with only yourself.deathplease....trust in Jesus. He'll find someone else for you, he'll do anything for you...this life is way too hard to try to live by yourself.and this life is far too precious to throw awayso liveyour brother in christRyan fitz
 
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lostSheep

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i've prayed and i've prayed...tell me how to move on...i feel like i'm losing myself more every single day...
 

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i've prayed and i've prayed...tell me how to move on...i feel like i'm losing myself more every single day...
Hi there lostSheep888, we can't tell you how to move on, but however, all I can say is Trust in God to help you with this. Seek Him diligently. But in order to trust God, you have to work with Him on your situation. We do care about you.Blessings.
 

lostSheep

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how do i work with Him on my situation? i'm in a very confused state right now...i feel like i'm the most worthless person in the world...barely eat, barely sleep...i keep on praying and saying i'm sorry to HIm...sorry i'm not a good enough christian...sorry i'm not a good enough human...i keep telling Him to please stop for a moment and take away this sadness...it's too unbearable...
 

cedarhart

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Lostsheep888,This may not be a popular approach but I am a believer in tough love when it is needed and you sound like a candidate. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and suck it up. You obviously know how to play on other's sympathy as you chose your name for that and have posted your personal problems online. Faithful Christians are full of compassion and you have been given plently of that. For the following message, I'm drawing on personal experience. I have been to the bottom of the bottom, to the black abyss of despair. In recent years passed, I literally almost grieved myself to death. The farthest thing from my mind,was to share my grief with the rest of the world. I could not eat and could barely move for weeks. The best thing that I did, was run to Father and He listened to my wailing. My faith remained strong and it drew me closer to Him as I knew that he was the only one who really knew my pain. It was a very deep time with Father that I will have with me always.The other action that I took was to be intelligent enough to ask for help medically. There comes a point in time where we humans are not mentally "wired" to sustain severe emotional shock. We are not able to endure them physically. Spiritually, yes. Humanly, no. If you are truly at that point, be wise enough to seek medical help and ask for an anti-depressant. That's what they're there for. Why suffer? God never wants us to suffer as He loves us and wants us to use the common sense He gave us. The medication may be needed temporarilly in some cases and long-term in others. We are each our own individual beings with specific needs.You seem as though you are functional on a daily basis and communicate well online. So, if you really are in that deep of distress, do something about it besides just talking online to strangers. Get help. This too, shall pass.Deuteronomy 30:19-20 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: 20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days:
 

gumby

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Well cederhert you do bring up a good point about medical treatment, but as far as mental illness is concerned the best medicine for that is the bible. Over the last two years of my life a have lost three relatives and i have single hanidly pulled myself out of depression and years of anger and greif and i was able to overcome all that with the bible. I dont trust conselors or phychiatrists because there methods dont work well and the pills are of little effect if any. Its a tough road but you just have to dig it out of the bible and tough it out thats how you heal emotionally and spiritually not by the trust of some phychiatrists.
 
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Christina

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I find often in these situations we want God to make it better by making it how it was before these things happened. and in wanting this so badly we often close the door to new and better things ...God will never make it the way it was ....he will always make it better but we have to be open to that happening if we emotionally keep ourselfs trapped in wanting a situation just to fixed the way we want it fixed we slam the door shut to Gods plan ...We have to willing to just accept the things that have happened turn the uture over to God and be willing to move forward and walk throught the door he opens ... Looking backwards can cause one not to see the door opened in front of you ... Have faith do not ask God to fix things the way you want it fixed... but ask his wil be done in your life knowing with all your heart he loves you and wants you happy it just may not be the way you think... but he is all knowing not you... he knows what is best for you and maybe this girl was not whats best for you ..So be open to him trust him and let him lead you ...
 

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Aw, my dear gumby, I’m so glad that your method of healing worked for you. However, your statements are the same ones made by persons who have very limited life skills and experiences. I feel compelled to attend to your post only to present support for those who really do need medical treatment. Too many times, a person is made to feel guilty or weak if they seek help. We all need help at various times in our lives for many various reasons. Why should medical help be any different. We are so far from the original design that God made, that it's a miracle in itself that there are not more diseases, deformities, and genetic mutations than there are. Seeking medical help is a very intelligent decision to make. How silly is it to not get help when you know that you need it and allow yourself to suffer? If one needs help choosing healthy foods to eat to improve their health, is that not the same as a medical treatment?So, with all due respect, your statements are not appropriate for making as such a blanket statement. Perhaps your depression was short term as you were not biologically depressed prior to your grief and your out of balance was only temporary. For others, it is not.By refusing or denying medical treatment when it’s needed, you are testing God. You are, in effect stating, I’m going to refuse all that you have given me to heal myself and tell you to do it for me! We cannot live without our bond with Father through prayer and be balanced. But unless you’re due for a special miracle, try healing yourself and don’t bother Father with something that you can treat/cure on your own. Consult with Him all the while and he will lead you if you will listen.My comment was not necessarilly to seek psychiatric treatment but to seek medical treatment. One no longer needs to see a psychiatrist to be treated for depression. In fact, a psychiatrist will only diagnose. The treatment is left up to a family doctor. One only sees a psychiatrist for the extremely serious disorders. Whether a person decides to seek personal counseling is up to the individual to decide. Personally, I hold an ambiguous opinion of them as there are as many unstable ones as there are good ones. It’s strictly a “trial and error” choosing one.Let’s start with the Biblical Luke. He was a Medical Doctor. This is known by all of the medical terms that he used in his writings. He treated patients with medicine.1 Tim. 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. Alcohol was used to settle a nervous stomach and other disorders such as colds and wounds. It is a natural disinfectant. So, Biblically, medicine was utilized and sources were provided by God. Herbs used for Biblical RemediesSore and wounds were treated mostly with poultices made from bear's breech, honey and lard, ivy gum (from the ivy plant), agrimony, linseed oil, and papaya peel.Sprains were wrapped with an ointment made from the crushed leaves of comfrey plant.Rheumatism was treated by soaking the balm of Gilliad in olive oil and applied in liniment form.By having a massage with salt followed by a full body shampoo, you would feel as you do after enjoying a soak in a spa. This helps with blood circulation.Upset stomachs were settled by gargeling with rosemary water, and drinking it. Also ginger root would have been nibbled on.Headaches called for rosemary tea, or spearmint leaves being layed on the forehead. Sweet marjoram's oil was rubbed upon the forehead for relief.Rosemary twigs were boiled in water and used to wash a feverish body. White willow was made into a tes for what we know as an asprin effect.An earache? Softened flowers of the mullein plant steeped in olive oil were used as drops. Garlic was also thought to have releived pain and loosen the earwax.God provided these things for our use and they have been used for medicinal purposes for thousands of years. Medicine is a gift straight from God and has been finely tuned over the many years.The following information is in regards to medical treatment and the process of how depression is biological, whether it be long term or short term. It is an imbalance that occurs within the functioning of neurotransmitters in the brain. These are natural chemical that require a constant formula to maintain balance of the person’s mental moods and attitudes. If they are not perfect in amount, depression among many other disorders, occurs. Environmental causes can include stress, traumatic events, childhood difficulties, mental/physical abuse, physical traumas, illnesses, or other situation that shocks/stresses a person’s mental stability enough to change the appropriate proportions of the neurotransmitters of the brain causing depression and/or other mental imbalances. Biological Causes of Depression http://www.allaboutdepression.com/cau_02.htmlBiological causes of clinical depression continue to be studied extensively. Great progress has been made in the understanding of brain function, the influence of neurotransmitters and hormones, and other biological processes, as well as how they may relate to the development of depression.Brain Function in DepressionThe brain is the "command center" of the human body. It controls the basic functions of our bodies, our movements, and our thoughts and emotions. Researchers studying clinical depression tend to look at several aspects of brain function including the structures of the limbic system and the function of neurotransmitters within neurons…….....Neurotransmitters and NeuronsA neuron is made up of a cell body, an axon, and numerous branching dendrites. Chemical messages pass through the brain by traveling through these neuronal structures. First, it begins as an electrical impulse that is picked up by one of the dendrites of the neuron. Next, the impulse moves through the cell body then travels down the axon. When it reaches the axon the electrical impulse is changed to a chemical impulse. These chemical impulses, or neurotransmitters, released by the axon have the duty of carrying messages from one neuron to another. When the message is picked up by the dendrite of a neighboring neuron, it is changed back in to an electrical impulse and process begins again. Neurons do not actually touch one another. Instead, the chemical messenger passes from one neuron to another through a small narrow gap, called a synapse, which separates the neurons………....Of the 30 or so neurotransmitters that have been identified, researchers have discovered associations between clinical depression and the function of three primary ones: serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine. These three neurotransmitters function within structures of the brain that regulate emotions, reactions to stress, and the physical drives of sleep, appetite, and sexuality. Structures that have received a great deal of attention from depression researchers include the limbic system and hypothalamus……....Theories about how neurotransmitters may be related to a person's mood have been based upon the effects that antidepressant medications can have on relieving depression in some people. It is believed that these medications are effective because they regulate the amount of specific neurotransmitters in the brain……….....A Gene for Depression?Research on the genetic causes of clinical depression has attempted to identify one or more specific genes that may lead to the development of a depressive illness. Although there have been a number of studies that appear to name a particular gene as the culprit there has been little consistency among their results. However, the outcome of some research has suggested that there may be specific genes that cause clinical depression to develop within certain families and not in others.
 

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Im merly saying that abusing pills is getting us not getting us anywhere. Some pills work as you mention and thats good but what you fail to tell the people is that these phychiatrists and doctors out there have to go though at least five diffrent combination of pills to actually try to treat the problem and even then it only treats about 10% of the initial depression. Pills arnt going to solve anything because its habit forming and mind control it works temporaily and it leaves patients with nothing. It takes them on a mental high and puts them in a deceived trance of happyness. And me and you both know that the only true happyness is from god and the only way we can get that happyness is by talking to god and sharing our problems. And you know god can solve our problems and all of peoples mental conditions in the blink of an eye. Im anti pill and im not some sorcerer that promotes habit forming. If i offend with my words than so be it, i teach gods word and thats what i do.
 

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Im merly saying that abusing pills is getting us not getting us anywhere. Some pills work as you mention and thats good but what you fail to tell the people is that these phychiatrists and doctors out there have to go though at least five diffrent combination of pills to actually try to treat the problem and even then it only treats about 10% of the initial depression. Pills arnt going to solve anything because its habit forming and mind control it works temporaily and it leaves patients with nothing. It takes them on a mental high and puts them in a deceived trance of happyness. And me and you both know that the only true happyness is from god and the only way we can get that happyness is by talking to god and sharing our problems. And you know god can solve our problems and all of peoples mental conditions in the blink of an eye. Im anti pill and im not some sorcerer that promotes habit forming. If i offend with my words than so be it, i teach gods word and thats what i do.
Hi there Gumby, how are you? I think Cedarhart is saying that God will also use humans to do His will for healing, like herbs and pills... but I also agree that abusing pills or any other medicine is not going to get anybody anywhere... it's like getting drunk by abusing beers.
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But again, some pills and medicine works, but it doesn't change the fact that God provides our needs and any illness (especially medical) needs to get attention otherwise it can go worse.Blessings.
 

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Herbs are natural amd there good if your using the right one, the same thing goes with medicine it can treat only about 10% of the initial depression and then the patient is right back from square one. Its healing and its good only temporarly but is it a cure all for depression no its not what is GOD IS, god will fix peoples outlook he will fix there personality he will fix there disorders and there chemical enbalances perminintly and thats a fact and the only thing that he expects from us is faith to follow his word and try to keep a posative outlook. Im not being rude when i say this but the only place that you will find medicine in the bible is in Proverbs 17:22 "a joyfull heart is good medicine, but a broken spirit dries up the bones"and the wod pill isnt even mentioned in the bible whatsoever and nowhere will you or anyone else find that god commands us to take pills because it isnt written, it is true that we should use herbs for physical health reasons but as far as mental health goes as long as we trust in god and obey god he will take care of us without pills.