How big is Jesus Christ now?

101G · May 4, 2020

reformed1689 said:
It means the person of Jesus is truly God just like the Father and Spirit are both truly God. But they are three persons in one essence. So no, not ALL of God is in Jesus but the fullness of Deity. He is truly God.

JESUS is the Father, and he is the HOLY SPIRIT,

Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"

his power? listen, Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." HOW MUCH? ...."ALL OF IT". AND IF HE, JESUS HAVE IT ALL, WHERE DO THAT LEAVE YOUR SO-CALLED FIRST AND THIRD PERSON, WHO SUPPOSE TO BE CO-EQUAL?...

PICJAG.

101G · May 4, 2020

well there seems to be an imblance in the trinity. the doctrine states that the three is co-equal. well JESUS just upset that blance, because he has it all, as well as IMMORTALITY, or ETERNAL LIFE. supportive scriptures. 1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."

now if the Lord Jesus is the ONLY one who has "ETERNAL LIFE where to that leave your so-called other two persons? the imbalance grows.

and "only" means, no one or nothing more besides; solely or exclusively

JESUS just gets BIGGER, and BIGGER.

PICJAG.

bbyrd009 · May 4, 2020

101G said:
JESUS is the Father

why do you call Me good? No one is good but Yah

101G said:
and he is the HOLY SPIRIT

The Holy Spirit cannot come to help you until I leave. ... away; for if I do not go away, the Helper shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. ... And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Advocate to be with you forever-

So, "I will ask Myself, and I will give you another Myself to be with you forever?"
i mean, no offense, but you are not even trying very hard imo

reformed1689 · May 4, 2020

101G said:
JESUS is the Father, and he is the HOLY SPIRIT,

Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"

his power? listen, Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." HOW MUCH? ...."ALL OF IT". AND IF HE, JESUS HAVE IT ALL, WHERE DO THAT LEAVE YOUR SO-CALLED FIRST AND THIRD PERSON, WHO SUPPOSE TO BE CO-EQUAL?...

PICJAG.

No, three distinct persons, one essence.

101G · May 4, 2020

bbyrd009 said:
why do you call Me good? No one is good but Yah

The Holy Spirit cannot come to help you until I leave. ... away; for if I do not go away, the Helper shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. ... And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Advocate to be with you forever-

So, "I will ask Myself, and I will give you another Myself to be with you forever?"
i mean, no offense, but you are not even trying very hard imo

so you still didn't read post #64 did you?.

PICJAG.

101G · May 4, 2020

reformed1689 said:
No, three distinct persons, one essence.

do you know what Essence means? the intrinsic nature or indispensable quality of something, especially something abstract, that determines its character".

now if Jesus has the same NATURE/Essence as you say, according to Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
form here means NATURE, which God is Spirit. now did that nature/essence that was in the body called Jesus, was it all or some of the nature or part of the nature of God. your answer please.

PICJAG.

bbyrd009 · May 4, 2020

101G said:
so you still didn't read post #64 did you?.

PICJAG.

"still?"
but no, i haven't, and im not interested in playing "nevermindthatwhataboutthis" anyway, wadr
bam keep professing like you know, ok with me

101G · May 4, 2020

bbyrd009 said:
"still?"
but no, i haven't, and im not interested in playing "nevermindthatwhataboutthis" anyway, wadr
bam keep professing like you know, ok with me

if you are not interested in playing "nevermindthatwhataboutthis" why respond to my post, but no problem, maybe you can help reformed1689 out with the question I ask him which will nullify your question at the same time, so bbyrd009, trhe same question to you. "if Jesus has the same NATURE/Essence, according to Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
form here means NATURE, which God is Spirit. now did that nature/essence that was in the body called Jesus, was it all or some of the nature or part of the nature of God. your answer please. this will end your "nevermindthatwhataboutthis" concerns,

your answer please.

PICJAG.

Truther · May 4, 2020

reformed1689 said:
It says the fullness of God. It does not say all of God.

It says all the fullness of the Godhead...

ALL....

Everything...

Truther · May 4, 2020

101G said:
and that mediator is God himself, "The Holy Spirit".. lets see how big JESUS is.
MEDIATOR:
Galatians 3:20 "Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one." who is the Mediator? ... God himself in the likeness of a man. scripture, Hebrews 6:13 "For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself," so lets see this,
1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:" so Jesus is the the "advocate", so what do advocate mean? well lets see,

ADVOCATE: G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
[(not given)]
KJV: advocate, comforter
Root(s): G3844, G2822

say waht? Jesus is the COMFORTER? yes the same COMFORTER in John 14.

and a "MEDIATOR" is an intercessor
MEDIATOR: G3316 μεσίτης mesites (me-siy'-tees) n.
1. a go-between.
2. (simply) a spokesman.
3. (by implication) a reconciler (intercessor).
[from G3319]
KJV: mediator
Root(s): G3319

HOLD it, is not a "Comforter" a an intercessor?, see the definition #2. of ADVOCATE: G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.

JESUS is that mediator, (but God is one), who is "COMFORTER",

Jesus is getting bigger, and bigger

My source for these definition is the Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments.

PICJAG.

Yes, Jesus is the comforter and the Father is also the comforter.

Jesus is everywhere at once(omnipresent).

God is inside Jesus' omnipresent spirit body, causing both to be "the comforter"

....18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

God comforts us THROUGH Jesus...

3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.

reformed1689 · May 4, 2020

Truther said:
It says all the fullness of the Godhead...

ALL....

Everything...

All the FULLNESS.

reformed1689 · May 4, 2020

101G said:
do you know what Essence means? the intrinsic nature or indispensable quality of something, especially something abstract, that determines its character".

now if Jesus has the same NATURE/Essence as you say, according to Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
form here means NATURE, which God is Spirit. now did that nature/essence that was in the body called Jesus, was it all or some of the nature or part of the nature of God. your answer please.

PICJAG.

Part of the essence.

reformed1689 · May 4, 2020

Truther said:
It says all the fullness of the Godhead...

Actually it does not say the fullness of the Godhead... That's what the KJV says but that is not what the Greek says.

bbyrd009 · May 4, 2020

101G said:
if you are not interested in playing "nevermindthatwhataboutthis" why respond to my post, but no problem, maybe you can help reformed1689 out with the question I ask him which will nullify your question at the same time, so bbyrd009, trhe same question to you. "if Jesus has the same NATURE/Essence, according to Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
form here means NATURE, which God is Spirit. now did that nature/essence that was in the body called Jesus, was it all or some of the nature or part of the nature of God. your answer please. this will end your "nevermindthatwhataboutthis" concerns,

your answer please.

PICJAG.

why do you call Me good? No one is good but Yah

101G · May 4, 2020

reformed1689 said:
Part of the essence.

thanks for he reply, second, if you have part of the Spirit, then you have three Spirit, (the son as a seperate part), the Father as a separate Part), and the Holy Ghost as a separate Part). that's three God, for God is "A" Spirit. a part of God? that's anti bible. so your assessment is incorrect, better know as "WRONG". a part or a piece of God is full ignorance of the word of God. God is not divided. just as I thought , three Gods.

you want to try again?

PICJAG

101G · May 4, 2020

Truther said:
Yes, Jesus is the comforter and the Father is also the comforter.

Sorry, Jesus is the Father who is the Spirit, the Holy Spirit.

Truther said:
Jesus is everywhere at once(omnipresent).

in the glorified state after his resurrection, YES.

Truther said:
God is inside Jesus' omnipresent spirit body, causing both to be "the comforter"

ERROR, Jesus is God, "Diversified", the Holy Spirit. listen, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." the Lamb stood, not the Lamb "of" God, but the Lamb. see the difference?

Truther said:
...18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

BINGO, I'm jumping for Joy. Jesus is the Comforter whome is the "HOLY SPIRIT". not two separate person, but the same one person shared.

Truther said:
God comforts us THROUGH Jesus...

ERROR, Jesus is GOD, remember, John 20:28 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." now if you have another God then you're into polytheism by definition.

Truther said:
3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort

Thank God, but have you not forgotten, Revelation 3:12 already? "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name." who name did he write? that's right his Name who is his God/Spirit. my God, this is too easy. remember when Jesus, the "diversified Spirit" in a body on earth say "my Father?", he's saying "MY" Spirit which art in heaven. and Jesus in diversity in heaven, (the Spirit), say "MY" son is saying MY Body on earth.
how easy is this.

Let me just say it our stright. The Holy Spirit is the only person in the Godhead, who is Jesus. and the Title "Son" simply means character, or the characteristics of God manifested in flesh, meaning we are to be "Holy. and Spirit is Jesus Nature, "diversified in Flesh.

understand, "Holy" is God's character, and Spirit is God's NATURE, hence the Appellation... "Holy Spirit". Holy is his character/Son, and Spirit is his Nature/Father the source of all things, so the Scripture, you gave, 3 "Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort". Jesus is the Father in Spirit, and the Son diversified in flesh. Truther watch the revelation, see Lord here in blue in the scripture you gave, Jesus in Flesh is Lord correct, now this, 2 Corinthians 6:18 "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty." BINGO.
is not Jesus the "Lord?", yes, listen, John 13:13 "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am." and the Lord is the FATHER. one more, 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." BINGO, the Lord who is Jesus is the Father who is the Spirit, who is the "COMFORTER". that comfort us, as the scripture gave....

hey don't argue with me, read your BIBLE.

yes Jesus is getting bigger and bigger... (smile).

Truther, I love that John 14:18 that showes me that you're on the RIGHT TRACK, but just need a little fine tuning .

PICJAG.

Truther · May 4, 2020

101G said:
Sorry, Jesus is the Father who is the Spirit, the Holy Spirit.

in the glorified state after his resurrection, YES.

ERROR, Jesus is God, "Diversified", the Holy Spirit. listen, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." the Lamb stood, not the Lamb "of" God, but the Lamb. see the difference?

BINGO, I'm jumping for Joy. Jesus is the Comforter whome is the "HOLY SPIRIT". not two separate person, but the same one person shared.

ERROR, Jesus is GOD, remember, John 20:28 "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." now if you have another God then you're into polytheism by definition.

Thank God, but have you not forgotten, Revelation 3:12 already? "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name." who name did he write? that's right his Name who is his God/Spirit. my God, this is too easy. remember when Jesus, the "diversified Spirit" in a body on earth say "my Father?", he's saying "MY" Spirit which art in heaven. and Jesus in diversity in heaven, (the Spirit), say "MY" son is saying MY Body on earth.
how easy is this.

Let me just say it our stright. The Holy Spirit is the only person in the Godhead, who is Jesus. and the Title "Son" simply means character, or the characteristics of God manifested in flesh, meaning we are to be "Holy. and Spirit is Jesus Nature, "diversified in Flesh.

understand, "Holy" is God's character, and Spirit is God's NATURE, hence the Appellation... "Holy Spirit". Holy is his character/Son, and Spirit is his Nature/Father the source of all things, so the Scripture, you gave, 3 "Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort". Jesus is the Father in Spirit, and the Son diversified in flesh. Truther watch the revelation, see Lord here in blue in the scripture you gave, Jesus in Flesh is Lord correct, now this, 2 Corinthians 6:18 "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty." BINGO.
is not Jesus the "Lord?", yes, listen, John 13:13 "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am." and the Lord is the FATHER. one more, 2 Corinthians 3:17 "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." BINGO, the Lord who is Jesus is the Father who is the Spirit, who is the "COMFORTER". that comfort us, as the scripture gave.... hey don't argue with me, read your BIBLE.

yes Jesus is getting bigger and bigger... (smile).

Truther, I love that John 14:18 that showes me that you're on the RIGHT TRACK, but just need a little fine tuning .

PICJAG.

Jesus is not the Father, he is the son of the Father.

The Father did not give birth to Himself, nor did the son get his mother pregnant.

The theme of the Bible is the Father IN the son, not the Father IS the son.

When Jesus said I and my Father are one, he meant unified by the Spirit of the Father in the son...not that they are the same being.

Of course the Lord is that Spirit....via the Father, which is that Spirit, inside the spirit of Christ.

Read Romans 8 if you don't believe me....you see BOTH S(s)pirits as the Holy Ghost....

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death....

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead

2 Spirits here, bro.

Truther · May 4, 2020

reformed1689 said:
Actually it does not say the fullness of the Godhead... That's what the KJV says but that is not what the Greek says.

Does he own a Greek restaurant or something like that?

Truther · May 4, 2020

reformed1689 said:
All the FULLNESS.

Yep, every bit of God is in Jesus, bodily.

Per the O.P., Jesus' body is omnipresent.

He was raised from the DEAD.

He was made a quickening spirit upon resurrecting.... 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Also he was fully indwelled by every bit of his God, bodily.... 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Which caused him to appear as his God appears....
and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus....

And again we see Jesus as light...
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Truther · May 4, 2020

101G said:
JESUS is the Father, and he is the HOLY SPIRIT,

Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"

his power? listen, Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." HOW MUCH? ...."ALL OF IT". AND IF HE, JESUS HAVE IT ALL, WHERE DO THAT LEAVE YOUR SO-CALLED FIRST AND THIRD PERSON, WHO SUPPOSE TO BE CO-EQUAL?...

PICJAG.

Jesus impregnated his mother(as the Father)?

God birthed Himself?

No, Jesus is the son of the Father.

The Father is light, and since the Father fully indwells the son with ALL of His being in the son's body, the son is light by default.

Also, the son become the express image of the invisible God(Father) by default.

Also, the son was given all power by default by the Father per the Col 2:9 effect on his body.

How big is Jesus Christ now?

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