God speaks of the oppressor,who he is, the one brought back to life from the fatal wound and the sword He is sending to bring punishment for Israel's sins against God. Which will END the AGE of Man and bring in the Kingdom of God that has been promised and Israel healed of her sins and guilt and we reign with our Lord forever more. Jerm. 50:3 A nation from the north will attack her and lay waste her land.4.) In those days, at that time, declares the Lord, the people of Israel and the people of Judah together will go in tears to seek the Lord their God. 7.) Whoever found them devoured them; their enemies said, "We are not guilty, for they sinned against the Lord, their TRUE PASTURE, The Lord, the HOPE OF THEIR FATHERS. Where some have made the mistake in these verses is where God also calls Israel, "Babylon," because of her many idols. And God is also speaking of Babylon who the Assyrians are a part of. So, when reading this chapter it requires careful reading to know when God is speaking of who when He uses the word Babylon. God now changes to addressing those who are Babylonians, the Assyrians.Jerm 50: 11 Because you rejoice and are glad, you who pillage my inheritance, because you frolic like a heifer threshing grain and neigh like stallions, you mother will be greatly ashamed; she who gave you birth will be disgraced. She will be the least of the nations-- a wilderness, a dry land a desert. This chapter is speaking of the time of trouble for Israel, and Judah at the End of the AGE. God sends the armies from the North against her and prophecy is spoke about both Jacob and those Assyrians who will come against her and then God tells who the oppressor is, the beast that died of a fatal wound that Rev 13:12 and Daniel 7:4-5 speaks about that is given the heart of a man, is King Nebuchadnezzar. This is who is coming up and receiving the powers of Satan for one hour. Jeremiah 50 speaks of this entire End time. The prophecy of this chapter of Jeremiah has been closed that it not be understood until the time of the End for it is a part of what Daniel is speaking about and those books were sealed. Jerm 50:16 Cut off from Babylon the sower, and the reaper with his sickle AT HARVEST. Because of the sword of the oppressor let everyone return to his own people, so let everyone flee to his own land. 17.) "Israel is a scattered flock that the lions have chased away. The first to devour him was the King of Assyria; the last to crush him his bones was Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. This chapter continues with the prophecy going into the kingdom of God with Israel, the remnant that God spares. Jerm 50:19 I will bring back Israel back to his own pasture and he will graze on CARMEL and BASHAN; his appetite will be satisfied on the hills of Ephraim and Gilead. 20.) In those days, at that time, declares the Lord, "search will be made for Israel's guilt, 'BUT THERE WILL BE NONE'. And for the SINS OF JUDAH, NONE WILL BE FOUND. For I will forgiven the remnant I spare. Here the prophecy Ends. We have been told this even happens and Israel is brought into the PROMISE LAND, NO MORE SINS WILL BE FOUND, making this prophecy of what happens and Israel's guilt removed FOREVER. This may take two or three readings to gather it, but God's spirit will show you the truth of these verses if your willing to read them and accept what this prophecy says which has been hidden from us all until now for the Son of Perdition is King Nebuchadnezzar. The only way this could be King Nebuchadnezzar is for him to have been revived of the fatal wound that killed him for he would not fit into this prophecy of the END unless he had been healed of his fatal wound. And as God says in the verses above King Neb will be the very LAST TO EVER CRUSH ISRAEL"S BONES. Meaning no one after this King will ever touch his people again. How appropriate, for he is the true King of Babylon. And he will be the one who enters into God's temple.
God revealed who the beast is in Jeremiah 50
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Hi Vickie- Very good synopsis, but has a few holes in it. King Nebecanezzar was given a dream shortly after taking Isreal captive and Daniel was given the interpretation of it. Here is the dream- 1st- It was a statue, having a head of Gold- (Babylon), chest and arms of Silver- (Medes and Persians), waist and thighs of Brass- (Greece), and two legs of solid iron- (Rome). These were the four kingdoms who are Biblically as well as historically proven, to have held Isreal captive, one after another, Rome holding them captive up past the time Christ was on earth His first time. 2nd- But, at the base of the statue, are two feet with 10 toes, of which are composed of iron mixed with clay. This would be the last Gentile Nation prophecied by God, to hold Isreal captive. In other words, the Nation known as the "one world Government" that gains control over the Earth during the Trib. Period. The same one the anti-christ is head of. The "iron mixed with clay", represents the revived Roman Empire", made up of 10 Nations. But they are not as strong as the old original Roman Empire, being mixed with clay. Plus the fact, Jesus' return is depicted by the stone that drops at the feet of the statue and smashes it down, not the legs, waist, chest, head, but the feet. That alone, shows it could not be "Babylon" physically returned and its King for the last Gentile nation to hold Isreal captive. 3rd- And King Nebecanezzar has been dead and his spirit held for good in Hell since his death more than 2 Milleniums ago. He will not be revived. And the Parable of Christ about the richman and Lazarus proves, once a spirit reaches thier spiritual destination, they cannot leave it. 4th- Scriptures tell us, how the anti-christ will come in as a leader under a false peace pact. After 3 1/2 years, that peace pact is broken. He ends up getting killed- (head of that beast being wounded as if were dead). But, it is miraculously healed and the world wonders after him. (Satan now cast out of Heaven altogether and down to the Earth.) This is when Satan possesses the body of the anti-christ to revive him and takes the next 3 1/2 years of world dominance down to war at Armegedon, with the King of the North and "Kings"- (Plural) of the East, coming to armegedon for that war. 5th- Babylon spoken of in Revelation proves, this is a symbolic description of how the anti-christ will operate the "one world Government." How the sins will be so terrible, the defiling of the Temple in every way, getting the majority of people of the world to be involved in so many other sins. This was because of the sins of the original Babylon, the "great Harlot" will be repeated during the anti-christ's reign. 6st- Back in the 1950s 3 European Nations came together known as "Benolux" who had a new "Treaty of Rome" drawn up and all 3 signed it. Since then, it has grown to over 10 Nations, known as the "European Union" now. 7th- God declares in a vision to Daniel later, how 3 nations will be plucked up by the roots. But, that statue with feet of 10 toes, plus the animal in Daniel's later dreams with 10 horns, plus the 10 horns of the beast in Rev. prove, the number of Nations has to grow first, to more than 10 Nations, in order for the number to leave that union, will return it to 10 again. 8th- "Babylon" is clearly depicted as a symbol of how identical the antichrist will rule over the world for the sins he comits and gets the rest to follow suit, shown in Revelation. (Harlot riding the beast). So, while your synopsis was very good, it was slightly inaccurate. God Bless!!
Wait a minute. The beast is my boss!!! Hey, I know you have scripture, but I can prove it!!The anti-Christ will not be revealed before that will be taken away. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; So no matter what anyone claims the anti-Christ will remain hidden until this happens. Best is referred to as kingdoms, not persons. Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth. Don't forget we have more than one beast here.Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. Now is king Neb coming back to life?Not likely as men are appointed to die once then Judgment. This is like everyone trying to guess who the two witnesses are. The fact is nobody knows. Is it possible that God is trying to show Vicki who those kingdoms will be that represent the Beast?? It appears God is talking to her about something that is important, and nothing is mentioned about not knowing who those kingdoms will be and their position. Christian Commando is correct, there are to many holes. However, having the ability to hear from God, I have learned not to jump the gun, and not fill in any blanks for God. (Well, I am still learning.) I would keep listening Vicki as God may show you how all this plays out and who is involved. With God, we tend to get way to excited when he shows us something, when in fact He just got started on something larger than what we could anticipate. Jesus Is Lord.
Brother Mike;71438]Wait a minute. The beast is my boss!!! Hey said:Good, come aboard, for this is my joy also.for prophecy tells of the hope that we are looking forward to being fulfilled.
you've done just what I did when reading verse 3 take it out of context. Go back and re-read it. You've taken that out of context, and it is easy to do. Go to verse 2 for the words "DON"T LET ANYONE DECEIVE YOU" goes to the Thessonalians who thought Jesus had already come. Paul said "DON'T LET ANYONE DECEIVE YOU, FOR THE DAY OF THE LORD WILL NOT COME NOR happen until the falling away happens and the Son of Perdition is revealed. . We both read it wrong, God showed this to me also. See, God has revealed who this Son of Perdition is, in the verses HE has wrote, and to show us in HIS TIME. We just haven't been led to see them until now for the Son of Perdition will soon be revealed to the WHOLE WORLD, but God is opening it up to us now. Paul is not saying that we won't know who the son of Perdition is before a falling away occurs, but this Day of the Lord's coming won't come first until this Man is revealed and there is a great falling away, see it?No, sir, God says in Rev 17:11 the beast that once was and now is not be will be is an 8th king. Who is King Nebuchadnezzar. Rev 13:12 says this beast was healed of a "DEADLY WOUND" which is he was killed and is being brought back up to life to receive Satan's throne, the kingdom of Iron.Yes, we have 10 horns that are 10 kings. Rev 17:12 who have not "YET" received a kingdom, but for 1 hour will receive authority as KINGS ALONG WITH THE BEAST, who is an 8th KING as Rev. 17:11 has told us. If it where an empire such as the Roman Empire it would be mentioned now in these verses. Instead we are told that it is a kingdom, not an empire which shows us how faulty the Rom. Empire theory is. It is Satan's Kingdom that is given to the beast, THIS 8TH KING, who will be King Nebuchadnazzer, who receives this KINGDOM OF IRON.Revelation 13:2 says. The DRAGON, whom is Satan, gave this BEAST HIS POWER, AUTHORITY AND HIS THRONE. Of course we are told in the verse below, that HIS DEADLY WOULD WAS HEALED. Nebuchadnazzer is healed from his deadly wound and brought up out of the grave, just like these verses say. Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. The whole world will wonder after this beast, the 8th king, who Jerm says is the LAST TO CRUSH ISRAEL and Judah, never again will there be anyone to crush them or destroy them for they will be free of guilt and sin.These verse you quote tell us plainly a deadly wound was healed and all will worship this beast. Maybe you should do a number count on the name Nebuchadnazzer and see if it comes up to 666? Hello? But then so does a lot of people...We have many who were brought back from death told to us through out the bible of being brought back to life. Matt 27:52 God brought up all the Saints at the death of Christ. Lazarus was given back to Mary after three days or so, in the tomb dead. Elijah laid over the boy and prayed and God brought him back to life. Therefore resurrecting someone out of the ground is not a problem for God to perform and it has been written for us to read that we see it is God's MO to do these things throughout the AGES.Yes, God is speaking to me and you will soon see what God has said in his bible where I have shown you is true. If not now when this Man is made known to the whole world here shortly. I encourage you to go and read 2 Thess 2:2-3 again. What I should you is real.Don't believe me, believe what God says in Jerm. I am not the one who wrote those verses, God is. He has kept things hidden from all of us, until it is his will none of us can know anything, no matter how great of a scholar one might be. God is greater. It is according to His will. When God showed these verses to me awhile back I too thought there was something wrong with me. I left it alone and God brought me back and took my eyes to every verse that spoke plain in meaning of what God had written confirming what and who the Son of Perdition is and the kingdom arriving when this man is disposed of by God. Read and pray and ask God, for he knows what He is doing and what HE has written. As you may not grasp it all right now, you will when this man is revealed which is closer on the horizon than we think. We are going into captivity and will be here when God comes and takes his vengeance out on those who have violated his temple as he says in verse 33 of Jerm 50. Thanks for all the questions you ask me. For everything I know I am telling you that where we all have been told other things we are being told correctly now by the verses of the bible, not by theories any longer. Believe what is written in the bible, not the books written about the bible verses. It is the right way and the only way. Soon the Mystery of God will be revealed at the end of this man being removed from the temple. Amen. The Lord whom we serve is coming and so very good to all of us.
Vickie you just forgot Gods other Words 1Cr 10:11Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. King Neb. is the type the Example he is a type of Antichrist ... He wont be physically resurrected he is your type
Christina;71452]Vickie you just fogot Gods other Words [URL=http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Cr&c=10&v=11&t=KJV#11][COLOR=#0000ff]1Cr 10:11[/COLOR][/URL]Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition said:
God never says King Neb will be resurrected you take facts mix in your own fiction and call it Gods word .... Suit yourself but you have taken leave of your senses added to Gods Word ... As was pointed out we are appointed once to die ... Would you then call God a liar? I dont hardly ever even post here anymore you just were all around it so thought Id give you a hand but should have followed my common sense You are intentionally led to King Neb. as the type for antichrist.
What an awesome study. I have to go with you on this because you said Our father in Heaven showed you these things. I don't take that lightly and know how frustrating it is when you know you heard God and people just don't get it.First, I am a Word of Faith person and believe in Pre-Trib. So bare with me.What do we know about the Anti-Christ?Names:Little Horn Dan:7:8Man of sin Thes 2:3Son of perditionLawless one 1 John 2:18and AntichristDoes king Neb fit any of these. . . . . YES, King Neb was a bonehead. Looking good so far.He is called little horn because he rises up out of a group of ten horns or nations. We know the common market of Europe would be able to hold these 10 nations. The western division of the former Roman Empire is identified by this description. It had two major divisions the west and east. It was made up of 10 sub-divisions and hence the 10 horns. The 10 nations mentioned in Rev 17 Identify 10 major European nations that will support the Antichrist. The west side is mostly made up of the Muslim Nations.So, one little horn that is a great diplomat and rises up among the 10 European nations. What about his personality?He is a great Visionary........Dan 7:8, 20A great Orator Dan 7:11 and 7:25 He speaks out against God and latter claims to be God. hates saints.Dan 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them. He is a Persecutor: Dan 7:21, 25He may be someone that changes laws to fit his needs. Laws that are wrong:2Th 2:9 The coming [of the lawless one, the antichrist] is through the activity and working of Satan and will be attended by great power and with all sorts of [pretended] miracles and signs and delusive marvels--[all of them] lying wonders--He is someone that has a mean look. Someone that would make you uncomfortable. Dan 8:23He is a spiritual Medium, and understands sinister schemes. He does this with lying sings and wonders. No real power, but witchcraft of the highest order compared to todays pansy witches.Dan 8:23-24He is physically powerful. Rev 13: 2,4He uses flattery: dan 11:34MAY BE HOMOSEXUAL!!! Dan 11:37Now could this be King Neb? Or maybe not King Neb but the spirit that also controlled King Neb. I say this because something very interesting was said about Judas. Act 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.Where did Judas have to go?? He did not belong where he was at. Very strange.When you get it all sorted Sister give us a full top to bottom paper on it.I wish I could dispute with you more, but this goes beyond what I know about the End time stuff. You heard from God, so there is probably more to this than what has been shown to you. Be blessed!!Jesus Is Lord.
LOL well sense she always says that you must agree with all her her doctrines any body can say those words but when they contradict Gods Word if your discernment flag doesnt go up then you are listening to lies of men/women So I got it from God she's wrong. P.S.And by the way Vickie I never agreed or ever ever said I believed the Rome doctrine I happen to agree with you on that.
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Vickie;71446]..As you may not grasp it all right now said:Are you a Texan female missy? Well ah do declay-ah!Now don't you go a-getting sidetracked into thinkin' the Antichrist is just one person!Rather, the Antichrist is a vile SPIRIT that infects thousands all around the world, so be on your guard, they're out there thicker'n fleas on a hound dawgs back, take care y'hear?..
Thats more of a Alabama, southern Georgia accent. Possibly Mountain Hillbilly's of eastern Kentucky and the smoky area north-east Tenn. There is some in AR and southern MO. Scary actually. y'hear is more northern to Louisiana as they would say y'all. Texas has a long southern draw, but more refined English is used. West of Texas is all Spanish. Christina: I never said I agree with her. I stated my reasons above. If someone said thus said the Lord, I normally get a yes, or no in my spirit. I do believe she did hear from the Lord on something that concerns the end times, and being a faith person, I am sure God is able to get it over more clear to her. Those that do hear God have all jumped ahead and mangled things up. Myself included. Now when I think God has revealed something to me, I check and double check. I also don't mention it until I get a green light to do so. Everyone is at different places. She is not the only one that thinks old King Neb is the head bad guy at the end. This concerns me because it's easy to take a revelation from God, and try to connect the dots with someone else's teaching that was wrong. I myself have done this more than once, and stopped once I found out that I was violating other scriptures. Scripture never contradicts. NEVER.Jesus Is Lord.they're out there thicker'n fleas on a hound dawgs back, take care y'hear?..
There are several examples of dead people being brought back to life in the bible.Read what happened at Jesus crucifiction and death.Christina;71457 said:
Christina;71457]God never says King Neb will be resurrected you take facts mix in your own fiction and call it Gods word [/quote]Good morning Christina said:
Well I only have one thing to say God fore told us all things He tells us exactly who Antichrist is and when the season is he is coiming and how he will come he started explaing it it in Gen. and finishes in Rev. however as scripture says only those with Wisdom will understand /see it .... But he did write it ... As did the early church fathers A writting the church buried by the way .... You all belive what ever you chosebut I assure those with ears to ear ...God will not resurect King Neb. I dont know who Vickie listens to but by her own words she doesnt care what scripture says or how much she contradicts it she says God tells her different. Now if some of you are foolish enough to believe God would contradict his own inspired word to tell one person something that makes himself and his own words out to be lies ...You have a serious problem. So I will leave you a link to a site that will give you a downlaod for a free book of the earlist Writtings on this subject before the church buried it .... So read for yourself what the people who actually learned and walked with Aspostels taught ... Certainly you can all take 30 min away from useless insults to each other for real teaching. http://www.christianityboard.com/showthread.php?t=5562 May God give you all some Wisdom to see and ears to hear
Vickie you are still not understanding the two beast mentioned in Rev.I will just keep this short and say,the first one is a system,the second one is satan himself.
Hey folks. Vicki believes that it's old King Neb showing up as Mr. Antichrist.cmon, so what!!!Like it really matters. Knowing, or not knowing who it is will not change the outcome, and nobody would recognize King Neb if they saw him walking down the street. So we can't jump em and ........You know.. ..... Never mind...The things us Christians get excited about. Are we really this boring???Now if you all don't mind, I am back to reading my Rock and Mineral reference Guide.Jesus Is Lord.
That's not to say that eyes won't be opened. However, I don't think our Savior would waste his breath telling us all things if He didn't expect us to do our best by reading all that He told us.
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Jesus said John the Baptist was Elijah (Matt 17:11-13), not in the sense of 'reincarnation' but in the sense that John had the same SPIRIT as Elijah, as do possibly many other Christians.Nebuchadnezzar had the Antichrist spirit, so in the same sense many people nowadays have the same foul spirit as Neb had.
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