I'm Trying Not To Get Fired! But I'm Sick Of Satan's Spewing Propaganda!!
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I really don’t know. Like I said I’m struggling there. Romans 13:1-3 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. [2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. [3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. [5] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
1 Peter 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
Only brought up the devil and those passages of Jude 1:8-10 as unsure, do they apply to railing accusations against the government? With 1 Peter 2:21-23 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: [22] Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: [23] Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
This is what I base my belief on...
Ephesians 6:10-18
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Also on Job 1:6-12
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. (seeking whom he may devour)
8 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9 Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
12 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.
And Job 2:1-7
1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
2 And the Lord said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. (Again seeking who he might devour)
3 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.
4 And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
5 But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face.
6 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.
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Only brought up the reference of not bringing accusations against (even)the devil in contrast of “but chiefly them that walk after the flesh in lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, self-willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.” Same in (Titus 1:7) for a bishop must be blameless, as stewards of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry...no striker.
do get what you are saying. I’m not disputing it as you may be right in rebuking satan. Only asking pertaining to the topic (unless I’ve misunderstood) saying the government is spouting out lies “walking after the flesh” and deceit; same as the devil comes to kill, steal, and destroy. I’m confused with a inconsistent message which I’m struggling with. Asking if I am self-willed? Asking how should I react to the governments rule when the word mentions the devil also as “dignities” in and after the flesh. as we do not war after the flesh but our weapons are Spiritual for the casting down of vain imaginations. Which I get you quoting. Not even including myself in the “our” there although I don’t want to strive about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. Since even in relationships the word says one can be won by conversations; not conversations in the former things but good in the Lord.
Breaking this post up because I know it is long but I have questions and maybe someone can help clarify. It is important to me not only pertaining to the government, but how to be within a church building and personally what does the word say about women?
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@Heart2Soul Romans 13:1-5 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. (does this mean the good and froward also?) For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. [2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. [3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. (does this include the government also)Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: [4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. [5] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
“For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil.” The above broke up into two “being not afraid” of the terror IF you do good(walk in the Spirit of meekness,Christ) or but if thou do that which is evil “be afraid”. Paul speaks of this wrath and bearing not the sword in vain (imo) in 2 Corinthians 5:10-11 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. [11] Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
concerning rulers, personally as a woman 1 Peter 3:6 stands out: Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
“...being subject to their own husbands, as Sarah was Obedient to Abraham, calling him ‘sir’, of whom you did become daughters, doing good, and not fearing any terror.” Other versions say “if”, you are daughters of Sarah and not the bondwoman “if” which (imo) connects to (Isaiah 54:14-17)In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee. ...No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.
Yet so confused with the brought no accusations against the devil with Acts 23:1-9 And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day. [2] And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth. [3] Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whitewashed wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law? [4] And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest? [5] Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people. [6] But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question. [7] And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided. [8] For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both. [9] And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God.
“For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil.” The above broke up into two “being not afraid” of the terror IF you do good(walk in the Spirit of meekness,Christ) or but if thou do that which is evil “be afraid”. Paul speaks of this wrath and bearing not the sword in vain (imo) in 2 Corinthians 5:10-11 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. [11] Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
concerning rulers, personally as a woman 1 Peter 3:6 stands out: Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
“...being subject to their own husbands, as Sarah was Obedient to Abraham, calling him ‘sir’, of whom you did become daughters, doing good, and not fearing any terror.” Other versions say “if”, you are daughters of Sarah and not the bondwoman “if” which (imo) connects to (Isaiah 54:14-17)In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee. ...No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.
Yet so confused with the brought no accusations against the devil with Acts 23:1-9 And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day. [2] And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth. [3] Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whitewashed wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law? [4] And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest? [5] Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people. [6] But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question. [7] And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided. [8] For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both. [9] And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God.
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You will have had the virus and are now fight it off so it does not show symtoms.
Most of the hospital workers are probably in this situation. I think I had it, a dry cough, slight fever for a few days and then fine.
I do not get ill much at all. But this is all about the vulnerable who now are probably 25% of the old population who account for 50% of the total population.
You simply cannot have the medical system overloaded, that means no medical support for anything else, get ill and need hospital treatment, you die. It is purely a question of numbers of patients.
Starting to introduce satan into the equation is unhelpful and wrong. If you want to encourage confusion, make a bad name for believers and those who love and care for others, carry on. If you had a poison that you were giving out, but you thought it was just refreshing water, would you not want to be told do not give out the water. The only cure or treatment we have is isolation, and the only way people will obey is through fear.
Most cannot tell the difference between a virus and bacteria, why anti biotics do not work against viruses.
Where my daughter works, 25% of the population have a reading age of a 5 year old. "The cat sat on the mat". Keep it simple stupid unfortunately applies in this situation.
Compound multiplication 1, 3, 9, 27, 81 etc 21 steps and you get to 10 billion people. Infection rate of 1 to 3 people.
If 3 people infected in a week, thats 21 weeks to get the world, or 5 months without control.
What You Mean @DNB "But feeling Invincible....?" I am invincible, in the second life! Jesus Christ has an Eternal Grip on me No one can shake loose! To DIE is Gain. Quit being afraid of losing your fleshly life! Give it all to Jesus and don't worry so much.
Be Courageous!! Just like John the Baptist, Just like Peter and the Apostles, JUST LIKE PAUL who most likely lost his head. Stephen is my Favorite....as he was being stoned, he saw Jesus at the RIGHT HAND OF GOD! I'm by no means "Reckless" lol, I'm an Introvert! I keep my distance from everyone outside of work lol. I'm respectful. I'm just FEARLESS!! BECAUSE I know what is waiting for me once I leave my flesh!Thank You Lord for fillling me with your Spirit and allowing to me to SPEAK bravely and give you all the CREDIT and Glory!!! I will not be distracted BY FEAR!!! Get Away from me Satan!!! The Cross of Christ stands between me and everything else!
Faith In Christ Alone Justifies Christians.
Christ On The Cross Paid For Our Sins.
His Righteousness Is Imputed To Us!
Jesus Christ ONLY is Worthy of all our Praise and Worship!
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Yeah, in my community we have a LOT of Chinese spies, and I came down the first week of January. It weren't no fun with 2 hours of sleep and 1 1/2 hours of coughing up lung fluids and repeat; and my wife followed suit. Neither of us went to a physician until everything has pretty much passed, and we never were included in the statistics.
But this is only a pre-cursor for when we can't buy or sell. So if anyone liked the bare shelves, think about when the only shelves are in your pantry, -- food, medicine, fuel, water, electricity:
Lke 22:35 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one.
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Ok, as long as you're not trying to expedite your entrance into heaven (at least in dormant anticipation), by disregarding or denying the veracity of this threat.What You Mean @DNB "But feeling Invincible....?" I am invincible, in the second life! Jesus Christ has an Eternal Grip on me No one can shake lose! To DIE is Gain. Quit being afraid of losing your fleshly life! Give it all to Jesus and don't worry so much.
Thank You Lord for fillling me with your Spirit and allowing to me to SPEAK bravely and give you all the CREDIT and Glory!!! I will not be distracted BY FEAR!!! Get Away from me Satan!!! The Cross of Christ stands between me and everything else!
Faith In Christ Alone Justifies Christians.
Christ On The Cross Paid For Our Sins.
His Righteousness Is Imputed To Us!
Jesus Christ ONLY is Worthy of all our Praise and Worship!
Remember, a live dog is better than a dead lion.
Ecclesiastes 9:4
For whoever is joined with all the living, there is hope; surely a live dog is better than a dead lion.
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...that a healthy immune system will never even notice?
i dunno dnb. tank Yah for variety and free will i guess
My immune system has to be strong with all the HIV, Hep C,A,B,Tuberculosis and Corona I have been exposed too! But then again it's my job! I do it every day, unconditionally, to help and witness to my patients. When Jesus is ready to take me I'm ready! I am just being his vessel to Glorify HIM, Jesus Christ...Fearlessly and Courageous (Faith like a mustard seed). Hoping to be an example for other Christians that are trying so hard to hang on to this flesh and blood life, but instead should be trusting in him, Just as Paul, Peter and all the Disciples did. Jesus died on the CROSS at about, correct me if I'm wrong, 33yrs of age? Im 51....GAME ON, have been a Christian all my life!!!! GOING OUT STRONG IN MY FAITH IN HIM! Nothing to lose at this point. I have lived 18 yrs past our Savior already. I love him! He chose me first! I'm humble and I have no pride in anything about myself!
It's all him, he is my HERO!! He get's the glory! I sin everyday. Thank you Lord for your Mercy and Grace, I need it even at this moment! Love You!!!!!!!!!
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this "infection comes from outside" model has really gotten out if hand imo, and i think that is what we are mostly suffering from thereMy immune system has to be strong with all the HIV, Hep C,A,B,Tuberculosis and Corona I have been exposed too! But then again it's my job! I do it every day, unconditionally, to help and witness to my patients. When Jesus is ready to take me I'm ready! I am just being his vessel to Glorify HIM, Jesus Christ...Fearlessly and Courageous (Faith like a mustard seed). Hoping to be an example for other Christians that are trying so hard to hang on to this flesh and blood life, but instead should be trusting in him, Just as Paul, Peter and all the Disciples did. Jesus died on the CROSS at about, correct me if I'm wrong, 33yrs of age? Im 51....GAME ON, have been a Christian all my life!!!! GOING OUT STRONG IN MY FAITH IN HIM! Nothing to lose at this point. I have lived 18 yrs past our Savior already. I love him! He chose me first! I'm humble and I have no pride in anything about myself!
"dead doctors don't lie"
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1 Corinthians 15:24 Then the end will come, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority, and power.
Ha!
which i could dig out the version that says "rulers" instead of "authority" but you get it i guess huh. There is...there seems to always be a counter-point? To the point i cannot even say "There is always a counter-point?"
So, briefly, we got a Book full of "confusion" so to speak, with Yah is not the Author of confusion right there in it, whispering the point to us, if we can only hear
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so fwiw we could whack all four of those out of the park, with Scripture
(well, i mean plus most Christians' faith is pretty obv in Apollos anyway)
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Israelite Origins: putting away childish things | Biblical Historical Context
so, if youre still Pleading the Blood and planning on going somewhere after you have died or whatevs, prolly better you dont read that yet
ha, im kinda excited alla sudden, we might actually be less than two years away from an actual spiritual discussion up in here
so, if youre still Pleading the Blood and planning on going somewhere after you have died or whatevs, prolly better you dont read that yet
ha, im kinda excited alla sudden, we might actually be less than two years away from an actual spiritual discussion up in here
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Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Maybe “confusion” fits in there somewhere as “seen” even today as waves roar. Liked what you said “So, briefly, we got a Book full of "confusion" so to speak, with Yah is not the Author of confusion right there in it, whispering the point to us, if we can only hear”
So please educate me. Rewrite all 4 of these statements how you see them? Add or take away, but make it simple please. Not a paragraph for each. Everything I believe about Christianity is shot if I believe what you say. lol. You must be one of those Roman Catholics?
1. Faith In Christ Alone Justifies Christians? Or do I need to bow/place my faith in Mary also?
2. Christ On The Cross Paid For Our Sins? Is there something else Jesus needed to do????
3. His Righteousness Is Imputed To Us! Or is his righteousness NOT imputed to us? Or we must need a lot of WORKS also?
4. Jesus Christ ONLY is Worthy of all our Praise and Worship! Is someone else just as Worthy of our Praise and Worship?
*maybe I misunderstood you, lot's of communication difficulties on these boards.
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What's wrong with being a dead Doctor (as long as he/she was a believer in Christ)? As long as you gave it your all to doing Jesus Christ's will for all our brothers and sisters in him, even more, the unbelievers? Apart from the body is to be with Jesus (for believers in him anyway.. Jesus Christ). It wouldn't be good for non-believing Doctors, they would be sent to the place of torment.
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