Nutrition, natural immunity or experimental vaccines

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Enoch111

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So i have a question for u guys. Do u think Trump is getting tricked by his advisors or is he in on the whole scam?
That's a really tough one. He cannot claim to being tricked since Fauci's fakery and fraud have been out in the open since March, and all conservative news sources have exposed him. Then, when Fauci publicly contradicted Trump, he should have been fired on the spot.

Indeed, had Trump asked for a thorough background briefing on Fauci before including him and Birx on the Task Force(which was his duty, given the fact that Fauci/Birx are a part of the Deep Sate which has been undermining Trump, and Fauci/Birx are also paid by Bill Gates to sing his tune), he would have discovered that this Hillary Clinton fan has had a conflict of interest for a very long time. He has also been manipulating test results.

How can a Clinton fan also be supportive of Trump? Regarding an email from June, 2012 (captured by Wikileaks): 'I knew there was something sketchy about Dr. Anthony Fauci. Within the WikiLeaks HRC email files there are letters from Fauci to Hillary Clinton through her aid/lawyer Cheryl Mills: “rarely does a speech bring me to tears”?… “please tell her I love her more than ever”?… “please tell her that we all love her”… “Please tell her that we all love her and are very proud to know her.”'
Fauci Love Letters to Hillary Clinton Surface….

Furthermore, ousted bureaucrat Rick Bright (see my thread on hydroxychloroquine in General Discussion) -- who is NOT a medical doctor -- has been working hand-in-glove with Fauci to prevent the use of HCQ and promote Gilead's Remdesivir (which is much more expensive and much less effective). They all stand to make serious money if HCQ can be sabotaged.

So, is Trump in on the scam? If he is he would be cutting his own throat (since then he becomes a part of the Deep State). Not sure if this is the case, or he simply does not have the grace and humility to admit that he has done an extremely poor job in handling this pandemic, by allowing the Deep State to control the White House, under his nose. But then Mike Pence is right there, and he should have brought Trump to his senses. And what about all the other very intelligent and very highly paid people who serve the Trump administration?

There is a third alternative, which may seem far-fetched. But it looks like Trump has been under a spell of some kind -- hypnotized or mesmerized by Fauci, into doing the little rascal's bidding.
 
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Watch this short interview with Dr Karladine Graves. It's only 11 minutes but its informative. I would of liked to hear more from her.
She gets asked about hydroxychloroquine and responds with something i didn't know
She shines light on the conflict of interests that Fauci has
And she gets asked why she thinks Trump is keeping Fauci around. Her response is an interesting one that i hadn't thought about




So i have a question for u guys.
Do u think Trump is getting tricked by his advisors or is he in on the whole scam?

Before this, Trump was clear favorite to win the election in November.
Now there are conservatives who are really asking questions of Trump. His voters are having doubts, growing doubts.
So now sleepy creepy Biden looks like his got a good chance of beating Trump despite having his own issues

This is my twist and theory about Trump and his and our future with him.

Trump is a type of John Wayne today, more that ever. Full of ego and pride with humble Pence in the rear grinding his teeth at times and shutting his mouth on all of this depressing scene. Pence is smiling and putting his best foot forward.

The Lone Trump Ranger or Trump John Wayne plans to stay under the radar for now and then suddenly rides into his suppressed America on his white horse. Trump still thinks he can make deals and overpower his enemies and yes he knows them all, all the major players. He thinks his reliance on his position as the supreme Leader will make all these threats of dangerous experimental vaccines, lock-downs, unemployment woes and economic depression all go away, in short order. He will fail if this is the general strategy I currently see him following.

Trump knows what is going on. His ego might just get the better of him this time and he can be easily be swallowed up and stripped of his power to deal with any key issues of this current surreal climate we are all in. His actions affect more than America....

Yes, Trump is under a spell, of his own making..he is deceiving himself..He should turn abound now or as every week passes his popularity declines.

And when he finally decides to ride in on his white horse to rescue us all and country, and he suddenly finds his odds are very slim, he will do something he has never done up to now. I predict he will declare surrender and acquiesce to his enemies, and join them. First in secret then in full exposure...the modern day turncoat, Trump Benedict Arnold.... This is my prediction! And his odds of winning the next Pres. term of course will skyrocket.

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@Enoch111 , @Cristo Rei , @Brakelite2 @Heart2Soul ,,,,,Trump just said on TV he will override any Governor that does permit church folks to worship today and henceforth....Amen...they are essential..there is still hope with Trump, at this time anyway.....

It is a victory today....

Blessings to ALL,

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The Leading Vaccine contender Moderna, in current trials for this virus is turning out to harmful if not deadly....

(Natural News) The Moderna vaccine company that’s attempting to use the mRNA technology platform to rapidly create a coronavirus vaccine has been widely accused of a pump-and-dump stock scheme involving the pumping of company stocks with widely-touted press releases that claim positive outcomes for phase 1 vaccine trials.

But buried in Moderna’s own press release is an admission that Moderna’s mRNA-1273 vaccine caused serious injuries in 15% of patients who were injected.

Importantly, the so-called “grade 3 systemic symptoms,” which require medical intervention, appeared after the second round of vaccine injections, underscoring the suspicion that the first vaccine injection sets up the body for an injurious (or even deadly) reaction upon a second exposure to a pathogen.

High-dose subjects suffered “serious adverse events”

The injuries were reported at the 250 ug (microgram) dose levels, and Modern removed those participants from any consideration of antibody reporting, restricting their antibody claims to those who received lower doses.

250 ug is a very tiny dose, just 1/4th of 1/1000th of a gram. Many vaccines inject subjects with similar doses.

“Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a ‘serious adverse event’ within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab,” commented Children’s Health Defense:

Moderna did not release its clinical trial study or raw data, but its press release, which was freighted with inconsistencies, acknowledged that three volunteers developed Grade 3 systemic events defined by the FDA as “Preventing daily activity and requiring medical intervention.”

… A vaccine with those reaction rates could cause grave injuries in 1.5 billion humans if administered to “every person on earth”.

Moderna skipped animal trials and years of human trials in mad rush to market

Moderna says in its press release that it’s rushing to a phase 3 trial in early July, skipping the normal 1-3 years that it would usually take to determine vaccine safety in phase 1 and phase 2 trials. The fact that the Moderna vaccine caused a 15% rate of serious adverse events during the phase 1 trial hasn’t stopped the vaccine company from exposing others to its risky, experimental vaccine. If anything, the company is doubling down on testing it in more people, albeit at lower doses that it hopes won’t produce the same level of potentially injurious side effects.

CHD further warns:

These outcomes are particularly disappointing because the most hazardous hurdle for the inoculation is still ahead: challenging participants with wild COVID infection. Past attempts at developing COVID vaccines have always faltered at this stage as both humans and animals achieved robust antibody response then sickened and died when exposed to the wild virus.

In other words, even if the mRNA vaccine produces antibodies, that’s nowhere close to achieving a “safe” vaccine. In previous vaccine trials involving animal subjects treated with SARS-CoV-1 pathogens, the animal subjects died when exposed to subsequent infections because the vaccine set up their bodies for a deadly cytokine storm — an “enhanced” immune reaction that leads to systemic inflammation and death.

CHD characterizes the Moderna vaccine trial results as a “catastrophe,” and the CEO of Moderna, Stephane Bancel, previously admitted that mRNA injections into the body actually cause flu-like immune responses that are undesirable:

mRNA creates an immune response. Why? Because a virus is made of mRNA. Like the flu. So if we inject mRNA in a patient, what happens? Your body thinks you just got the flu. And it’s not very good for our drug, because you know all the symptoms of the flu. Not super nice… and the problem of going very high in dose, as you go around your body, you have a ton of side effects. – Stephane Bancel, CEO of Moderna, TEDxBeaconStreet conference, 2013.

Is it any wonder why Moderna executives are selling their own stock shares like mad, even as they claim to be ramping up a world-changing breakthrough that, if true, would earn stockholders a windfall of profits?

What do Moderna executives know, in other words, that they aren’t telling us?

The most likely answer is that the Moderna vaccine is highly unlikely to ever work without imparting enormous safety risks to patients.

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Yipes...
Did I miss something here?

WHAT "forced" Vaccine?

People had a hissy fit when Trump suggested...travel bans.

People complained when Trump suggested social distancing.

Governors ordered Lock-downs in their own respective States...some going so far as to arrest people out and about.

People are Begging For a Quick fix and Vaccines.
If the Scientists give the go ahead...so what if Trump chooses to use the armed Military to distribute Vaccines so people who WANT a Vaccine can receive it?

How does that Become a Forced Vaccine?

I hardly envision A Soldier Breaking in my home and forcing me to be administered a Vaccine.

Where is any such thing implied or said?

Tnx.
 

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Nutrition, natural immunity or experimental vaccines
OP ^

I have no problem with Vaccines.
I do have a problem with Vaccines being Mandatory "for citizens".
I could care less if a Government Servant speaks for or against Vaccines or any other "healthwise" treatment.
The government is not my physician or health advisor.

Personally my preference is God provided natural for healthwise needs.

Glory to God,
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Yipes...
Did I miss something here?

WHAT "forced" Vaccine?

People had a hissy fit when Trump suggested...travel bans.

People complained when Trump suggested social distancing.

Governors ordered Lock-downs in their own respective States...some going so far as to arrest people out and about.

People are Begging For a Quick fix and Vaccines.
If the Scientists give the go ahead...so what if Trump chooses to use the armed Military to distribute Vaccines so people who WANT a Vaccine can receive it?

How does that Become a Forced Vaccine?

I hardly envision A Soldier Breaking in my home and forcing me to be administered a Vaccine.

Where is any such thing implied or said?

Tnx.

Haven't u heard that many people have implied that a covid vaccine will be mandated including Bill Gates...

 

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Haven't u heard that many people have implied that a covid vaccine will be mandated including Bill Gates...

It's planned, and yet 3 major contenders during their vaccine trials have been a flop....many humans are ill, some severely, and test monkeys dead..I mean really dead after getting plunged with a needle....
 
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