Did Jesus claim to be God?

Truther said:

Hey, since you say God is extremely humble and has an eternal human nature attached to His divine nature, can you estimate how much this humble and weak humanity has infected His being?

Also, why did God humble Himself to wicked humans and devils in the first place?...Guilt?

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first thanks for the reply, second, who said that? you or me

and as for his humble and so called weak humanity, Hebrews 4:15 "For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."
Hebrews 4:16 "Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."

truther, I see you just want to talk, this is what facebook and tweeter is for,

see ys,

PICJAG.

Nancy said:

How are we to know Gods will and character without the living Word?

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Jesus is the living word, we know Him because He is with us, we know Him because we can talk to Him, we know Him because HE is real, we know Him because He lives, we know Him because God gave us His spirit so we could know Him.

There is a big difference between knowing about , which is all the bible can give you, and Knowing Him which only comes when He becomes real to you, and you enter into a relationship. You cannot have a relationship with a book.

How much of a relationship do you think you can have with someone you never talk to to listen to.

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

2Co_3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

mjrhealth said:

Jesus is the living word, we know Him because He is with us, we know Him because we can talk to Him, we know Him because HE is real, we know Him because He lives, we know Him because God gave us His spirit so we could know Him.

There is a big difference between knowing about , which is all the bible can give you, and Knowing Him which only comes when He becomes real to you, and you enter into a relationship. You cannot have a relationship with a book.

How much of a relationship do you think you can have with someone you never talk to to listen to.

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

2Co_3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

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Funny how you quote scripture but say the bible is a dead book! You would have to throw away an awful lot of scripture to believe as you do. And, what makes you think I do not talk to or listen to God??

2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

Psalm 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.

Joshua 1:8
This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

Matthew 4:4
But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

Romans 15:4
For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

1 Timothy 4:13
Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation, to teaching.

Psalm 119:18
Open my eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of your law.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1 Peter 2:2
Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation—

Psalm 119:10-11
With my whole heart I seek you; let me not wander from your commandments! I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you.

John 15:7
If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

Psalm 1:2
But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night.

2 Timothy 2:15
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

2 Timothy 2:7
Think over what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.

Job 23:12
I have not departed from the commandment of his lips; I have treasured the words of his mouth more than my portion of food.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever.

2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.

101G said:

first thanks for the reply, second, who said that? you or me

and as for his humble and so called weak humanity, Hebrews 4:15 "For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."
Hebrews 4:16 "Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."

truther, I see you just want to talk, this is what facebook and tweeter is for,

see ys,

PICJAG.

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That was speaking of a humble man, not a humble God.

Can't you see that?

Almighty God humbled Himself before His wicked creation, or His human, sinless son did?

Think of the wording of the 4 Gospels, which you know well.

farouk said:

Humility is a blessed virtue. Philippians 2 revolves around it, when it speaks of the Lord Jesus humbling Himself and becoming obedient unto death, even the death of the Cross.

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Right, not God humbling Himself. You got it!

in Philippians 2:6 was that not God in the flesh humbling himself? Yes or No?


oh yes, people say "Jesus is God in flesh", but only at their conveniences? sorry this is not burger king here, you can't have it your way....

PICJAG.

For the record.

No part of Almighty God is human or humble.

He never was, nor ever will be.

Only men have the capability to humble themselves.

God is not a man but God is only a Spirit.(John 4:24)

God is not a humble Spirit.

• Truther said:

  For the record.
  
  No part of Almighty God is human or humble.
  
  He never was, nor ever will be.
  
  Only men have the capability to humble themselves.
  
  God is not a man but God is only a Spirit.(John 4:24)
  
  God is not a humble Spirit.

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  the bible disagree, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
  
  
• Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:"
• Philippians 2:8 "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

PICJAG.

Truther said:

For the record.

No part of Almighty God is human or humble.

He never was, nor ever will be.

Only men have the capability to humble themselves.

God is not a man but God is only a Spirit.(John 4:24)

God is not a humble Spirit.

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Hello Truther,
Jesus Christ certainly humbled Himself and He IS God but, He humbled Himself while in the flesh on this earth. I would say as an example for us? But, all in all, God in all of His essence is above all so no, in that sense He does not lower Himself as He is above all.

Truther said:

For the record.

No part of Almighty God is human or humble.

He never was, nor ever will be.

Only men have the capability to humble themselves.

God is not a man but God is only a Spirit.(John 4:24)

God is not a humble Spirit.

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Bless your heart...someone at some time sold you a mixed up bunch of knitting....

You have spun yourself a fantasy story here...its smells like a dead fish.

Try praying about it and allowing God to show you, rather than creating a god in your own mind.

Nancy said:

Funny how you quote scripture but say the bible is a dead book! You would have to throw away an awful lot of scripture to believe as you do. And, what makes you think I do not talk to or listen to God??

2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

Psalm 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.

Joshua 1:8
This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

Matthew 4:4
But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

Romans 15:4
For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

1 Timothy 4:13
Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation, to teaching.

Psalm 119:18
Open my eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of your law.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1 Peter 2:2
Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation—

Psalm 119:10-11
With my whole heart I seek you; let me not wander from your commandments! I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you.

John 15:7
If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

Psalm 1:2
But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night.

2 Timothy 2:15
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

2 Timothy 2:7
Think over what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.

Job 23:12
I have not departed from the commandment of his lips; I have treasured the words of his mouth more than my portion of food.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever.

2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.

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Thats because "christians" wont listen to anything else. you know this bit.

Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

IO can quote the bible all day, wont get anyone closer to God, just as you can and still get no closer to God.

Joh_6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
Joh_6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Joh_6:48 I am that bread of life.
Joh_6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

But so few wil give Him a chance
The greatest teacher of all given second place to a book, you know what that makes the bible, an Idol.

We love you Jesus they say, we just dont want to be with you. The very words my wife spoke to me when she left me for another man. And when that day comes.

Luk_13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:

But Jesus we read teh bible we went to church we studied so hard, yet you still dont know Him.

He is supposed to be you Husband is He not worth teh time.

Mat_15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

Taken said:

Isa 48:
[12] Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

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Rev 22:13-16

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."

Blessed are they who wash their robes so as to have the right to the tree of life and enter the city through its gates.

Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the unchaste, the murderers, the idol-worshipers, and all who love and practice deceit.

"I, Jesus, sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the root and offspring of David, the bright morning star."

Peace be with you!

Helen said:

Bless your heart...someone at some time sold you a mixed up bunch of knitting....

You have spun yourself a fantasy story here...its smells like a dead fish.

Try praying about it and allowing God to show you, rather than creating a god in your own mind.

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Because I said no part of God is humble?

Nancy said:

Hello Truther,
Jesus Christ certainly humbled Himself and He IS God but, He humbled Himself while in the flesh on this earth. I would say as an example for us? But, all in all, God in all of His essence is above all so no, in that sense He does not lower Himself as He is above all.

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Have you thought of this though?

God, who is not, nor ever humble, but Almighty, had a humble, human son?

Then filled that humble, human son of His with the Holy Ghost and led him by the Holy Ghost per luke 4:1?

Then He resurrected that humble, human son from the dead and gave him a name above every name?

Well, if you read Phil 2 in that light, it will make better sense.

It must begin with man thinking himself equal with God, not God thinking himself equal with God, though....

101G said:

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  the bible disagree, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
  
  
• Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:"
• Philippians 2:8 "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."

PICJAG.

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Yes, Jesus was fashioned by his God as a man. He was a royal son and a celebrity per God and the heavenly host, but never took the celebrity status. Rather, Jesus shunned fame and humbled himself, even to die. Then his God resurrected him and gave him an elevated name....


And all this time, you thought God did that to Himself..

Also, God has no form.

The "form(or image) of God" is the man Christ Jesus, which Adam was created in the image of(Romans 5:14).

He was the firstborn of all creation, likewise slain before the foundation of the world.

The first Adam was made in the image of the last Adam, the man Christ Jesus.


"Who, being in the form of God(MAN), thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

Now this is sensible.

Not, a "formed God" having an equality complex situation with another of God's forms.....

Truther said:

Have you thought of this though?

God, who is not, nor ever humble, but Almighty, had a humble, human son?

Then filled that humble, human son of His with the Holy Ghost and led him by the Holy Ghost per luke 4:1?

Then He resurrected that humble, human son from the dead and gave him a name above every name?

Well, if you read Phil 2 in that light, it will make better sense.

It must begin with man thinking himself equal with God, not God thinking himself equal with God, though....

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Hi Truther,
I have one question for you, was Jesus not a humble man? To me, if one is not humble, at least somewhat then they are arrogant and Jesus was nothing like that.

Nancy said:

Hi Truther,
I have one question for you, was Jesus not a humble man? To me, if one is not humble, at least somewhat then they are arrogant and Jesus was nothing like that.

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Jesus was absolutely a humble man.

He never sinned.

He was a redo of the 1st Adam, but was made in a womb instead of dust.

He knew he was made by his God and the only begotten son of his God.

He knew that NOBODY could claim such a title, and find such favor with God.

Yet, he did not retaliate against evil men or devils, but went to the cross as the prophesied lamb.

His reward for doing that was being resurrected by his God, being made a quickening spirit, made omnipresent and having all of what his God consists of, indwell his new, omnipresent spirit body.

This process made him our God by default of the Col 2:9 effect on his spirit body.

Now God "fathers" us though His resurrected son, which causes the baby/son to later be the Mighty God and Everlasting Father by default(after resurrecting).

Truther said:

Jesus was absolutely a humble man.

He never sinned.

He was a redo of the 1st Adam, but was made in a womb instead of dust.

He knew he was made by his God and the only begotten son of his God.

He knew that NOBODY could claim such a title, and find such favor with God.

Yet, he did not retaliate against evil men or devils, but went to the cross as the prophesied lamb.

His reward for doing that was being resurrected by his God, being made a quickening spirit, made omnipresent and having all of what his God consists of, indwell his new, omnipresent spirit body.

This process made him our God by default of the Col 2:9 effect on his spirit body.

Now God "fathers" us though His resurrected son, which causes the baby/son to later be the Mighty God and Everlasting Father by default(after resurrecting).

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I sense that you do not believe the Christ, who became flesh is eternal? Alpha, Omega?

Christ took on human form through natural birth and His name on Earth was Jesus so yes, He was not formed from the dust. He exists as the Father exists...always was and always will be. He left the Glory of heaven to lower Himself for us...even unto death.
IMHO, Jesus was always the Mighty God.

Are people forgetting that in the beginning Jesus was the creator, the WORD who became flesh?

Cooper said:

Are people forgetting that in the beginning Jesus was the creator, the WORD who became flesh?

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not this gal