What Day Is The Sabbath ???

GerhardEbersoehn said:

Jesus of Nazareth to his Church...
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Whats His church got to do with mens. This bit.

Act 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Act 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Act 7:50 Hath not my hand made all these things?
Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

When one is joined to a harlot,

1Co 6:15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
1Co 6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

God bless

mjrhealth said:

Whats His church got to do with mens. This bit.

Act 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Act 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Act 7:50 Hath not my hand made all these things?
Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

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True.
What's His Church got to do with man or the church of men?
What's His Church got to do with temples, thrones, buildings, or countries or nations?
What's His Church got to do with prosperity or riches or power?
"Ye stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye." - "Paul, apostle of Jesus Christ to His Church", Stephen... HIS CHURCH— both stoned to death for Jesus’ CHURCH!

GerhardEbersoehn said:

True.
What's His Church got to do with man or the church of men?
What's His Church got to do with temples, thrones, buildings, or countries or nations?
What's His Church got to do with prosperity or riches or power?
"Ye stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye." - "Paul, apostle of Jesus Christ to His Church", Stephen... HIS CHURCH— both stoned to death for Jesus’ CHURCH!

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Yep for Christ not mens religions, you should stop yelling so much, you may need an anger management course, the law tends to make people angry dont know why.

Luk_5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

I guess some prefer the law to the Spirit.

Mat 9:16 No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse.
Mat 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

And men keep making it worse.

I prefer the Third Commandment to the spirit of the arrogant and fools.

The Law of God makes people angry because they have no fear of God and pretending doesn't help them.

GerhardEbersoehn said:

The Law of God makes people angry because they have no fear of God and pretending doesn't help.

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Nothing to say I see,

I prefer the Third Commandment to the spirit of the arrogant and fools.

Pearl said:

To me our sabbath is

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<To me> .. <our sabbath is..>??

Pearl said:

sabbath is whichever day

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<sabbath> .. <is whichever day..>??

Pearl said:

sabbath is whichever day we choose..

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<<.. we choose ..>> not God??

Pearl said:

sabbath .. we .. rest from our labours..

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<<we .. rest from our labours..>> not "God from His Own Works"??

FHII said:

1. Saturday is the Sabbath day. On our calendar it is the 7th day of the week. Today, Orthodox Jews still honor that day as the Sabbath. They however, start it at Sunset on Friday.

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<Saturday> is not <the Sabbath day>!

FHII said:

On our calendar Saturday is the 7th day of the week.

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On some modern calendars of the week 'Saturday' is the seventh on the list and on others the sixth day, while some calendars call it 'Saturday' and others call it 'Sabbat' (or something sounding similar).

FHII said:

Today, Orthodox Jews still honor that day as the Sabbath. They however, start it at Sunset on Friday.

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Today, no one, not even the Jews or SDA, and most certainly no Orthodox Jews, honour Saturday as the Sabbath whether they <<start it at Sunset on Friday>> or not.

And still, no Sabbath commands in the NT!

kcnalp said:

And still, no Sabbath commands in the NT!

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Do you live your whole life as a Christian on the basis of having to be commanded to do this and that? There are no Sunday commands in the NT either... What do you do with that?
But let's run with your theory. No Sabbath commands in the NT. So what? How would you react as a Christian if there were no command in the NT against adultery? Wouldn't you think Exodus 20 sufficient authority on the matter... Or do you think that was only for Jews.

GerhardEbersoehn said:

<Saturday> is not <the Sabbath day>! ....no one, not even the Jews or SDA, and most certainly no Orthodox Jews, honour Saturday as the Sabbath whether they <<start it at Sunset on Friday>> or not.

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Can you please explain why. I have seen you say such things for a long time but haven't been able to work out your reasoning. I'm sure you do have your reasons...I would simply like to understand them.... Whether I accept them it not is another matter, but understanding where you are coming from would be helpful I think, for all of us.

Brakelite2 said:

Do you live your whole life as a Christian on the basis of having to be commanded to do this and that? There are no Sunday commands in the NT either... What do you do with that?
But let's run with your theory. No Sabbath commands in the NT. So what? How would you react as a Christian if there were no command in the NT against adultery? Wouldn't you think Exodus 20 sufficient authority on the matter... Or do you think that was only for Jews.

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Heb_8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb_8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Heb_12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Which part of new have you missed

@Brakelite2 Just in case you missed it, we never had a "covenant " with God we came to Christ under grace.

mjrhealth said:

@Brakelite2 Just in case you missed it, we never had a "covenant " with God we came to Christ under grace.

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The old covenant was grace also. Beginning in the garden... And I will put enmity between thee and the woman...a covenant of grace...
This covenant of grace was a continuing covenant which changed only in one detail... The priesthood became one of all believers. If you do not understand that all peoples from all ages are saved by grace alone through faith, then you do not understand the covenant, either old or new. And if you do not understand that it is grace, and grace only, that can bring anyone into a state of obedience to God, then you do not understand the power of God.
And finally, if you do not understand that it was Israel who refused to share the gospel with the gentiles, not God, then you will never understand the numerous texts throughout scripture, both old and new testaments, that speak of the Sabbath as being a gift for all peoples. A gift of grace.

Brakelite2 said:

The old covenant was grace also. Beginning in the garden... And I will put enmity between thee and the woman...a covenant of grace...
This covenant of grace was a continuing covenant which changed only in one detail... The priesthood became one of all believers. If you do not understand that all peoples from all ages are saved by grace alone through faith, then you do not understand the covenant, either old or new. And if you do not understand that it is grace, and grace only, that can bring anyone into a state of obedience to God, then you do not understand the power of God.
And finally, if you do not understand that it was Israel who refused to share the gospel with the gentiles, not God, then you will never understand the numerous texts throughout scripture, both old and new testaments, that speak of the Sabbath as being a gift for all peoples. A gift of grace.

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Christ is our Gift, but apparently He didnt do enough for mankind, its so bad that men would rather peruse there religions than get to know Him for them selves. just Like Egypt, men have in bondage to religion and. love it that way

Come out of Her MY PEOPLE, I guess that is why He always had a remnant. But Jesus I went to Church, I kept the sabbath,

Luk_13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:

Mat_8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

But who cares...

Your continuing condemnation of those who obey God's commandments is the work of the devil.
When we speak of faith, there is a distinction that should be borne in mind. There is a kind of belief that is wholly distinct from faith. The existence and power of God, the truth of His word, are facts that even Satan and his hosts cannot at heart deny. The Bible says that "the devils also believe, and tremble;" but this is not faith. James 2:19. Where there is not only a belief in God's word, but a submission of the will to Him; where the heart is yielded to Him, the affections fixed upon Him, there is faith—faith that works by love and purifies the soul. Through this faith the heart is renewed in the image of God. And the heart that in its unrenewed state is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be, now delights in its holy precepts, exclaiming with the psalmist, "O how love I Thy law! it is my meditation all the day." Psalm 119:97. And the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us, "who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." Romans 8:1
KJV Psalms 1
The Godly and the Ungodly
1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. ( You my friend are seated here...)
2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
6 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
You are just as dependent upon Christ, in order to live a holy life, as is the branch upon the parent stock for growth and fruitfulness. Apart from Him you have no life. You have no power to resist temptation or to grow in grace and holiness. Abiding in Him, you may flourish. Drawing your life from Him, you will not wither nor be fruitless. You will be like a tree planted by the rivers of water.

Brakelite2 said:

Do you live your whole life as a Christian on the basis of having to be commanded to do this and that? There are no Sunday commands in the NT either... What do you do with that?

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Are you saying you reject the New Covenant?

But let's run with your theory. No Sabbath commands in the NT. So what? How would you react as a Christian if there were no command in the NT against adultery? Wouldn't you think Exodus 20 sufficient authority on the matter... Or do you think that was only for Jews.

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The Sabbath commands were ONLY for Israel. Why are you trying to force them on others when YOU don't even keep them?

Brakelite2 said:

Your continuing condemnation of those who obey God's commandments is the work of the devil.

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Since you don't obey the Sabbath commands does that mean you are of the Devil? Or do you execute your neighbors and family who work on weekends? Or maybe you just pick the commands you like?

Exodus 31:15 Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

kcnalp said:

Are you saying you reject the New Covenant?

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Huh?

kcnalp said:

The Sabbath commands were ONLY for Israel.

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Then explain why Jesus warned the church to pray that it would not be Sabbath when Jerusalem was under siege.

kcnalp said:

Why are you trying to force them on others

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Seriously? I'm just writing posts here. I can't even force you to read them let alone practice them.

kcnalp said:

when YOU don't even keep them?

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Keep what?

kcnalp said:

Since you don't obey the Sabbath commands

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What Sabbath commands? Be specific... And be mindful that if you are demanding I keep them... Just above you were berating me for "forcing something on others"...

kcnalp said:

Or do you execute your neighbors and family who work on weekends?

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Now you are just being totally stupid. Grow up.