God's Grace keeps on giving the Blood

justbyfaith said:

As I have said elsewhere, that means that Jesus has relegated sin to the flesh; so that we do not sin except we are walking according to the flesh.

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Condemning sin in the flesh means that Jesus killed sin in the flesh. We no longer walk after the flesh that is dead, but the Spirit indwelling us.

J, not everyone who claims to be a Christian actually wants to be one.

J, look at Romans 8:9 another way.

But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

If God dwells in you, you cannot be in the old flesh any longer. 1 John 3:9 we cannot sin. Jesus only knows those who abide in Him. Others He will say "I never knew you."

CharismaticLady said:

If God dwells in you, you cannot be in the old flesh any longer. 1 John 3:9 we cannot sin.

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We "cannot" do the things that we "would". (Galatians 5:17)

CharismaticLady said:

What is meant by "He condemned sin in the flesh" is that He took away our sin, so we no longer SIN. It does NOT MEAN that we can fulfill the lust of the flesh and the condemnation is gone. Those with the Spirit have no desire to fulfill the lust of the flesh. So wake up and take that notion out of your head

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Yes you do sin its just not sin. There is none on this earth who do not sin. Not one. As far as God and Christ are concerned, you believe, its done. So to all those poor lams that have come to Christ, dont be bullied by these "righteous" people, you will soon understand God cares little for the little mistakes we make along the way. Children make mistakes, and God wont beat you up when you do, Jesus said it is finished, and HE meant what He said.

Rom 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

CharismaticLady said:

If God dwells in you, you cannot be in the old flesh any longer. 1 John 3:9 we cannot sin. Jesus only knows those who abide in Him. Others He will say "I never knew you."

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That part is because they refuse to go to Him, live there lives with there heads buried in the bible, going to church, but wont Give Him 5 minutes of there time.

Joh_5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

justbyfaith said:

The law applies to Gentiles as well as Jews. It was given so that all the world might be found guilty before God (Romans 3:19). It shows Jew and Gentile alike that we are sinners in need of a Saviour (Romans 3:20).

In Galatians 3:23, it says that "we were kept under the law". This "we" refers to all those who have been saved; and these consist of both Jew and Gentile.

Our obedience to the moral tenets of holy scripture does not come through our attempting to keep a set of requirements. Instead, by faith we receive the Holy Spirit (Galatians 3:14) and then bear the fruit of the Spirit (love; goodness), which is never in violation of any law (Galatians 5:22-23).

Thus, we have a righteousness which is apart from the law; which is nevertheless attested to by the law and the prophets (Romans 3:21).

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Exactly without the law.

Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

mjrhealth said:

Yes you do sin its just not sin. There is none on this earth who do not sin. Not one. As far as God and Christ are concerned, you believe, its done. So to all those poor lams that have come to Christ, dont be bullied by these "righteous" people, you will soon understand God cares little for the little mistakes we make along the way. Children make mistakes, and God wont beat you up when you do, Jesus said it is finished, and HE meant what He said.

Rom 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

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Romans 3:10-18 is qualified by Romans 3:9 and Romans 3:19.

First, there is Romans 3:9 as it is to be compared to 1 Corinthians 10:32. There are three groups of people in scripture: the Jews, the Gentiles, and the church of God. Jew and Gentile alike are all under sin; but not the church.

Secondly, there is Romans 3:19. What the law says, it says to those who are under the law. In context, what the law says to those who are under it is Romans 3:10-18.

Now in Romans 6:14, we find that sin shall not have dominion over you; for you are not under the law but under grace.

If this is you, then Romans 3:10-18 does not apply to you for you are not under the law.

mjrhealth said:

Exactly without the law.

Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

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On more than one level.

1) there is no trangression because sin is not imputed where there is no law (Romans 5:13);

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2) Because sin cannot take advantage of the law where there is no law, to produce in you all manner of concupiscence; and since the motions of sins, which bring forth fruit unto death, are by the law (and therefore there will be no motions of sins where there is no law): therefore where there is no law there is no sin even as the law defines it if we were under it (Romans 7:5, Romans 7:8).

This is in regard to the law no longer bearing condemnation towards us.

It is still written on the heart and in the mind of the New Covenant believer (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16); and as such ut governs us from the inside.

But we are not under it (Romans 6:14), are dead to it (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and are delivered from it (Romans 7:6) as concerning condemnation and as concerning sin's ability to take advantage of it in order to bring about the motions of sins in all manner of concupiscence (Romans 7:5, Romans 7:8).

justbyfaith said:

On more than one level.

1) there is no trangression because sin is not imputed where there is no law (Romans 5:13);

and,

2) Because sin cannot take advantage of the law where there is no law, to produce in you all manner of concupiscence; and since the motions of sins, which bring forth fruit unto death, are by the law (and therefore there will be no motions of sins where there is no law): therefore where there is no law there is no sin even as the law defines it if we were under it (Romans 7:5, Romans 7:8).

This is in regard to the law no longer bearing condemnation towards us.

It is still written on the heart and in the mind of the New Covenant believer (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16); and as such ut governs us from the inside.

But we are not under it (Romans 6:14), are dead to it (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and are delivered from it (Romans 7:6) as concerning condemnation and as concerning sin's ability to take advantage of it in order to bring about the motions of sins in all manner of concupiscence.

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Something like that. Now when people just let Christ do what He needs to do instead of trying to impress Him maybe the world might change, but that wont happen till christianity runs to Christ.

justbyfaith said:

; but not the church.

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Which Church, there are a gazillion out there.

mjrhealth said:

Which Church, there are a gazillion out there.

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The body of Christ; consisting of all those who should not perish but have everlasting life according to John 3:16.

justbyfaith said:

If you are in fact hearing voices and think that they are the Lord then I would say that you are opening yourself up to demonic deception; and you may also need to go and see a psychiatrist.

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And by this post according top you John who wrote revelation must of being all possesed by demons, , as must of being Paul and Peter and all the others.

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

Gal_1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Mat_16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

see what you miss out on when you leave out the one who is the truth.

justbyfaith said:

The body of Christ; consisting of all those who should not perish but have everlasting life according to John 3:16.

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many would say they are but Christ would say not so,

Mat 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
Mat 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

so many refuse to go to Him so wont be ready, that is why He has to go out to teh highways .

mjrhealth said:

And by this post according top you John who wrote revelation must of being all possesed by demons, , as must of being Paul and Peter and all the others.

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

Gal_1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Mat_16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

see what you miss out on when you leave out the one who is the truth.

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I just know that with my own mental illness, there have been times when I have known that it was the Lord that was speaking to me; but that there were so many other times when demons came and pretended to be the Lord's voice in an attempt to gain my confidence.

So what I am saying is, be discerning as to what voices you listen to or heed; for not all of them carry the anointing of Jesus Christ.

mjrhealth said:

many would say they are but Christ would say not so,

Mat 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
Mat 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

so many refuse to go to Him so wont be ready, that is why He has to go out to teh highways .

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That is why those who are godly seek Him in a time in which he may be found (Psalms 32:6).

Being clothed with His righteousness is a matter of living faith.

justbyfaith said:

So what I am saying is, be discerning as to what voices you listen to or heed; for not all of them carry the anointing of Jesus Christ.

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No kidding, spent a good many months with the"enemy" using scripture to have me fight God. Than I met Christ and HE showed me satan.

The only truth we have is Christ, nothing, absolutely nothing can be first before Him especially that idol the bible that has kept so many from Him.

mjrhealth said:

No kidding, spent a good many months with the"enemy" using scripture to have me fight God. Than I met Christ and HE showed me satan.

The only truth we have is Christ, nothing, absolutely nothing can be first before Him especially that idol the bible that has kept so many from Him.

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I would simply remind you of what it says in 2 Timothy 3:16.

For the Bible does, in fact, testify of Jesus and is useful, indeed profitable, to teach, to reprove, to correct, and to instruct in righteousness.

It would be a sin to forsake it completely.

It also gives the whole counsel of God so that we can come to the knowledge of who Jesus is.

As for your experience with the enemy using scripture against you, consider that this is not unprecedented (Psalms 105:19).

So don't give up on reading God's integrated message system to you.

justbyfaith said:

We "cannot" do the things that we "would". (Galatians 5:17)

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Right. 1 John 3:9

With the Spirit we cannot sin, but those without the Spirit cannot keep the law.

Behold said:

99% of the people on this forum, are "sinning and repenting".
Does this sound like their "new nature" is keeping them from sinning?

Please wake up, as what you are saying, is not related to the LIFE of 99% of the people here, who claim to be saved.

Do you understand?

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Why do you think I'm on here trying to make them truly repent and receive the Spirit? Because few there are that actually find it. You haven't. You're on this forum. From what you preach, you have no power over sin, so you preach your experience.

CharismaticLady said:

Right. 1 John 3:9

With the Spirit we cannot sin, but those without the Spirit cannot keep the law.

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Even those with the Spirit cannot keep the law (Galatians 6:13, Galatians 3:22).

I am almost certain that you do not wear tzitzit and tallit and tefilin; and that you do not blow a trumpet every new moon.

In this, you are violating the letter of the law.

But the New Testament reality is that we are no longer bound by the letter of the law but are obedient to the spirit of the law (Romans 7:6).

In this, it can be true of us that we cannot sin; for it is a reality that the law has fundamentally changed in its very nature (Hebrews 7:12). We do not sin because we are obedient to the spirit of what the law is all about.

In this, we will be obedient to the letter also for the most part.

But if, for example, the Lord called me to heal someone on the sabbath day by telling them to take up their bed and walk; I would be being obedient to the spirit of the law (love) in doing so while I would also be violating the letter.

Jesus is our example of this in John 5.

justbyfaith said:

Even those with the Spirit cannot keep the law

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Of course we can, and do. Just not the ceremonial laws fulfilled in Christ that those who were trying to guide the Galatians back to a mixture of Christianity and Judaism were trying to force on them from a total misunderstanding of the gospel. That is why those scriptures you shared are saying.