Matthew 7:13-14 is a principle. The "few" are those whom the Father predestined to salvation before the foundation of the world. A classic example/answer to the title of this thread.
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Matthew 7:13-14 is a principle. The "few" are those whom the Father predestined to salvation before the foundation of the world. A classic example/answer to the title of this thread.
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I'm aware of that. What then is your purpose for being here in these forums, isn't it because of Matthew 28:19-20?
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Were they not his chosen? Think! They were his chosen, but they rejected him for the most part.
Good insight and besides Matthew 28 if I might also add...1 Peter 3:15.
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You need to study more, and not a commentary if you really want to give glory to God.
Its like this..
"many are called , few are chosen".
What does that mean?
Well, in Light of the Cross and in reference to John 3:16...
= It simply means the same as this context... "by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, and by one Man's obedience, many were made righteous".
But notice.....by Adam's disobedience the entire human race is made "sinners".....so, that "many" means ALL.
And ..
By Jesus's blood, death, and resurrection, as the Gospel BELIEVED, "" many are made righteous".
So, the "many"< is everyone who will "call on the Name of the Lord, and be SAVED". as they are made righteous.
Now apply this context to... "many are called but few are chosen"..
1.) Called - = Given the Gospel, and the opportunity to be SAVED....who is the MANY? The Many is the entire WORLD.... John 3:16
And who are chosen?
2.) Chosen? The chosen are those who are "justified by faith". They are the FEW.... The FEW, is in relation to the entire world's population.
So, out of all the humans ever born since the Cross was raised there are some who have been born again, .. and these are the "few", as compared to the "many" who died as a Christ rejector, since the Cross was raised.
Now who is making a commentary?
John 3:16 is the most quoted verse in the world yet is also the most misunderstood! So i'll expound only on this verse as the rest of this post is academic.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life".
The word "so" can be translated "thus" or "thusly" or "in this manner."
The "whosoever that will believe" are the elect/chosen, predestined to salvation before the foundation of the world.
To give a clearer view of John 3:16, it can be rendered: "For God so (in this manner) loved the world (in what manner did God loved the world?) in the manner that He gave His only Son and that the elect/chosen are the only ones who will believe.
By knowing the true Gospel, we can now understand John 3:16 this way:
"For God in this manner loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that only the elect who are the chosen, will believe in him and have eternal life"
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The Nation of Israel was chosen, not all the people. That's why Israel is back.
Luke 21:32
32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.
This generation means the generation Jesus was in when he said that. But that's another topic.
So if the nation wasn't chosen for salvation and the disciples also weren't chosen for salvation ( Judas fell away) why would you think certain individuals are chosen for salvation?
Cherry picker? Would you like me to quote the whole book of John, or perhaps the NT scriptures, just so to make the simple point that the people referred to in scriptures who are said to be the people of Jesus Christ, are the children of God, the children of promise, whom God had chosen to be His people, whom the Father had given to the Son to raise up at the last day?
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First, regarding the phrase "many are called, few are chosen", such phrase must be taken in the context of the parables where Jesus said such.
In general, a simple refutation of what you say in your post is in the understanding that there are two adams, that is, Adam and Jesus Christ, and that there are two births. And as all who are in Adam died, all who are in Jesus Christ shall be made alive.
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It's a dual prophecy, part for then and part for now.
Luke 21:32
32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.
"All things" didn't take place then, but they soon will.
Individuals certainly are chosen for salvation.
2 Thessalonians 2:13
God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,
Paul says that they were “chosen” through…belief in the truth. That would most naturally be understood as faith being the means through which they were chosen (just as we are saved by grace through faith). So basically, we have a passage that says they were chosen “through faith” which is exactly what Arminianism claims, and is counter to the Calvinist view that we are chosen unto faith.
Read John 13 and pay attention to what Jesus said in verse 18 to His disciples.
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2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,
That's right, "through" sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. To have "through" here to mean by reason of or because of or on account of, is a clear misuse of said scriptures. Paul plainly said that the Christians were chosen by God, and that election was through (denoting instrumentality and not reason) sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth.
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