WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

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BreadOfLife

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The Pope is also your good Shepherd?
...figures you would believe that.
Is Mary also your shepherd?
Oh, sorry, she is the shepherd's boss mom...shepherd queen.
She tells your top shepherd(Jesus) what to do.
Yup - the Pope is a shepherd (ποιμεν, 'poy-mane') as prescribed by Eph. 4:11 - unless you think the Holy Spirit is a liar??
Is that what you think??
 

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Yup - the Pope is a shepherd (ποιμεν, 'poy-mane') as prescribed by Eph. 4:11 - unless you think the Holy Spirit is a liar??
Is that what you think??
Catholic..."the Pope is my Shepherd, I shall not want..."
 

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Catholic..."the Pope is my Shepherd, I shall not want..."
As long as you believe the Holy Spirit is a liar - then you have no hope.
That's the "unforgivable" sin Jesus warned about.
 

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RCC order of Shepherds per confessing sins....


Priest, Pope, Mary, Jesus, God.

LOL
 

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As long as you believe the Holy Spirit is a liar - then you have no hope.
That's the "unforgivable" sin Jesus warned about.
Okay then, WHO is your one Shepherd???

I want a confession of YOUR FAITH right here before Jesus Christ.

Thanks.
 

BreadOfLife

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Explain to Jesus Himself, right now, how He is not the lone(one) Shepherd of John 10...

Thanks.
EASY - because the Holy Spirit proclaims that there are MANY shepherds within the Body of Christ Eph. 4:11.

See - that wasn't so complicated, sparky . . .
 

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Okay then, WHO is your one Shepherd???
I want a confession of YOUR FAITH right here before Jesus Christ.
Thanks.
Jesus is my shepherd, my Pastor is a shepherd, my Bishop is a shepherd, the Pope is a shepherd.
This is their described in Eph 4:11-2 and John 10.
 

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Jesus is my shepherd, my Pastor is a shepherd, my Bishop is a shepherd, the Pope is a shepherd.
This is their described in Eph 4:11-2 and John 10.
There is only one true Shepherd, teh rest are hirelings

1 A Psalm of David. The LORD is my Shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He makes me to lie down in green pastures; He leads me beside the still waters. 3 He restores my soul; He leads me in paths of righteousness for His name's sake. 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me. 5 You prepare a table for me in the presence of my enemies; You anoint my head with oil; my cup runs over. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD forever.
 

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There is only one true Shepherd, teh rest are hirelings

1 A Psalm of David. The LORD is my Shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He makes me to lie down in green pastures; He leads me beside the still waters. 3 He restores my soul; He leads me in paths of righteousness for His name's sake. 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me. 5 You prepare a table for me in the presence of my enemies; You anoint my head with oil; my cup runs over. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD forever.
You can call the Holy Spirit a liar ALL you want - but it'll never be true.

The Holy Spirit who inspired John to record Jesus using the word 'poy-mane' (Shepherds) in John 10 is the SAME Holy Spirit who inspired Paul to write about 'poy-mane' (Shepherds) in Eph. 4:11.

You and your equally-ignorant friend @Truther have been stumbling all over yourselves trying to prove the Holy Spirit wrong - and you'll never be able to do it . . .
 

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You can call the Holy Spirit a liar ALL you want - but it'll never be true.

The Holy Spirit who inspired John to record Jesus using the word 'poy-mane' (Shepherds) in John 10 is the SAME Holy Spirit who inspired Paul to write about 'poy-mane' (Shepherds) in Eph. 4:11.

You and your equally-ignorant friend @Truther have been stumbling all over yourselves trying to prove the Holy Spirit wrong - and you'll never be able to do it . .
Joh 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

But you dont glorify Christ ever that is you undoing
 

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Joh 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

But you dont glorify Christ ever that is you undoing
In John 16:12-15 - Jesus is talking to His Apostles - the leaders of His Church.

He wasn't speaking to the crowds, therefore - this is not addressed to every individual, but the leaders of His Church and the Church at large.
He promised them that the Holy Spirit would guide the Church to ALL Truth - not the individual.

This is evidenced by the tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant sects that ALL teach different doctrines yet ALL claim o have been "led" by the holy spirit. It is also true of the quasi-Christian sects, like YOUR online paramilitary cult, aggressivechristianity.net.

As I educated you before - the Holy Spirit who inspired John to record Jesus using the word 'poy-mane' (Shepherds) in John 10 is the SAME Holy Spirit who inspired Paul to write about 'poy-mane' (Shepherds) in Eph. 4:11. That is a truth that neither YOU nor your other faithless friend @Truther can change.
 

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In John 16:12-15 - Jesus is talking to His Apostles - the leaders of His Church.

He wasn't speaking to the crowds, therefore - this is not addressed to every individual, but the leaders of His Church and the Church at large.
He promised them that the Holy Spirit would guide the Church to ALL Truth - not the individual.

This is evidenced by the tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant sects that ALL teach different doctrines yet ALL claim o have been "led" by the holy spirit. It is also true of the quasi-Christian sects, like YOUR online paramilitary cult, aggressivechristianity.net.

As I educated you before - the Holy Spirit who inspired John to record Jesus using the word 'poy-mane' (Shepherds) in John 10 is the SAME Holy Spirit who inspired Paul to write about 'poy-mane' (Shepherds) in Eph. 4:11. That is a truth that neither YOU nor your other faithless friend @Truther can change.
You dont educate anyone BOL, get over it, you have nothing but your religion, and it is all you will ever have.
 

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You dont educate anyone BOL, get over it, you have nothing but your religion, and it is all you will ever have.
Praise God for that.
I thank Him DAILY for having me as a part of His Body.
 

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Praise God for that.
I thank Him DAILY for having me as a part of His Body.
Your church is not a part of His body, have you not read,

1Co 6:15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
1Co 6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

You are a "catholic" by choice, just as the SDA choose to be SDA and JW's JW's that is what you are joined to, the harlot and her offspring, which is why it is sad to see mum and her daughters duking out out to see who is the prettiest. But you made your choice you must live it. as they do.