The great harlot Rev 17, 18

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Yes it definitely is, I mean that is one of NASA's quests to see if there is life in space.
yes. And if like many believe there is some sort of pre trib or mid trib rapture (I am undecided) then that would be a great deception which could be used to convince the world it was not the rapture which was promised. but an alien invasion. then add all the signs and wonders of the anti-christ. and it sets up the stage for the end.
 

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Just beware of this world, try to not follow the pattern of this world. Hollywood movies and music are the modern idols, they who tempted to become a fame thru "american idols" or another talents idols were follows the pattern of babylonian marriage market (Remember how Jesus was tempted to worship satan's offerings - Matthew 4:8-10).
This pattern also spread to the match making dating website. If you need a long lasting marriage find your spouse inside the church and let the words of God lead your way.

Babylonian marriage market :
- https://www.gutenberg.org/files/16653/16653-h/16653-h.htm#id2531547

Hollywood music was spread into kpop :
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Witchcraft is a great deception to many, because as you may be aware, witchcraft also produces results too, but it isn't without consequences, and most don't know what they are messing with when they get involved in it.
Witchcraft is all bout manipulation and control, when a pastor in a church manipulated people, brings them into bondage He She is practicing witchcraft.
 

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This is absolutely true.... NO way of denying that Hollywood and fornication being normalized is a huge huge REALITY... However.. they are NOT representing CHRIST or the CHURCH... Is this Harlot not a representation of EVIL within the church??

I have to make a disclaimer statement here... If I ask a stupid question or make a wrong assumption... PLEASE be gentle with me... I asked Josho to start this topic...as I am REALLY wanting to learn about the end time prophesies... I know NEXT to nothing about this topic... so I am looking for all schools of thought... BE patient with this little lamb... who is so eager to learn...
Here's a thought, who was it that always played the harlot in the OT?
 

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Witchcraft is all bout manipulation and control, when a pastor in a church manipulated people, brings them into bondage He She is practicing witchcraft.

Specifically, witchcraft involves controlling people and situations through casting spells, which is forbidden by God.
 
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You could even declare China as Mystery Babylon, look at all the plagues that have come upon her, disease, floods, locusts, and how far has She fallen if a country is a she.. and all the world has "fornicated" with Her, and it caught her disease.
 

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Specifically, witchcraft involves controlling people and situations through casting spells, which is forbidden by God.
Even deception, it is all manipulation went through this years ago with my dad, i guess i needed to no but not part of our walk. We need to know teh enemies plans, so we can stand against them.
 

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You could even declare China as Mystery Babylon, look at all the plagues that have come upon her, disease, floods, locusts, and how far has She fallen if a country is a she.. and all the world has "fornicated" with Her, and it caught her disease.
Or you could also look at the religious structure in place at the time Jesus walked the shores of Galilee and climbed the mountains of Judea, and compare that to the religious of today.

Israel was often reference as the wife of God.
 

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Or you could also look at the religious structure in place at the time Jesus walked the shores of Galilee and climbed the mountains of Judea, and compare that to the religious of today.

Israel was often reference as the wife of God.
Well God had to divorce Israel so She could not Sin against Him when she became a prositute, but this isnt about Israel.

Jer_3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

But that also means God has a way to restore Her back to Himself, So many lessons to learn about marriage.
 

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It's not to hard to see

Hosea 2:4-11 KJV
And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms. [5] For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said, I will go after my lovers, that give me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink. [6] Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths. [7] And she shall follow after her lovers, but she shall not overtake them; and she shall seek them, but shall not find them : then shall she say, I will go and return to my first husband; for then was it better with me than now. [8] For she did not know that I gave her corn, and wine, and oil, and multiplied her silver and gold, which they prepared for Baal. [9] Therefore will I return, and take away my corn in the time thereof, and my wine in the season thereof, and will recover my wool and my flax given to cover her nakedness. [10] And now will I discover her lewdness in the sight of her lovers, and none shall deliver her out of mine hand. [11] I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.

What do you think, can anyone see religion in this?

I believe your giving the Roman Catholic to much credit.
 

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Well God had to divorce Israel so She could not Sin against Him when she became a prositute, but this isnt about Israel.

Jer_3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

But that also means God has a way to restore Her back to Himself, So many lessons to learn about marriage.
The title of the thread is the great harlot?
 

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The little lamb said she wanted to hear some thoughts as to who the harlot is , and you posted revelation where God said " I gave her space to repent" ????? Should this not imply a event that took place prior to the writing of Revelation??
 

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It's not to hard to see

Hosea 2:4-11 KJV
And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms. [5] For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said, I will go after my lovers, that give me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink. [6] Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths. [7] And she shall follow after her lovers, but she shall not overtake them; and she shall seek them, but shall not find them : then shall she say, I will go and return to my first husband; for then was it better with me than now. [8] For she did not know that I gave her corn, and wine, and oil, and multiplied her silver and gold, which they prepared for Baal. [9] Therefore will I return, and take away my corn in the time thereof, and my wine in the season thereof, and will recover my wool and my flax given to cover her nakedness. [10] And now will I discover her lewdness in the sight of her lovers, and none shall deliver her out of mine hand. [11] I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.

What do you think, can anyone see religion in this?

I believe your giving the Roman Catholic to much credit.
Its not just about Her, and I would not think being called a Harlot was any credit, and she like all mens religions has prostituted herself, look at the influence she has on the world and all the wealth she has collected and all the dressing up to make herself look good to the world.

Rev 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
Rev 18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Just go read BOLS posts and you will see how she glorifies herself