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Think so too. Was thinking what charity looks to me and I have no answer. Looks like that would be easy. I’ve see it in God. But not in me. I guess that is why Philippians 2:21 stands out so much. Can relate to seeking after my own.
i guess the kjv is about the only xlation that renders agape as "charity?" Strong's Greek: 26. ἀγάπη (agapé) -- love, goodwill
"charity" nowadays means more like "alms" or something did back then, i think? "Donations," more or less?
 

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God OFFERED, A WAY, for mankind TO Keep "Forever" Gods Breath Life, in the soul, imparted into a man.
Once a man Accepts Gods Offer- the man's Body "Shall have" an Eternal Living (with Gods Breath, that Is Life) soul.
There is only One Immortal, Who lives in unapproachable light

your bargain with death will be annulled, and when the overwhelming scourge passes through...
 

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i guess the kjv is about the only xlation that renders agape as "charity?" Strong's Greek: 26. ἀγάπη (agapé) -- love, goodwill
"charity" nowadays means more like "alms" or something did back then, i think? "Donations," more or less?

Donations yeah. Charity or Love is about as confusing as ‘to fast’ in Isaiah 58:4-9. One definition and then another...yet whatever it is in 1 Corinthians it is needful for without: 1 Corinthians 13:3-4 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. [4] Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

Hebrews 10:34-35 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance. [35] Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
 
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Donations yeah. Charity or Love is about as confusing as ‘to fast’ in Isaiah 58:4-9. One definition and then another...yet whatever it is in 1 Corinthians it is needful for without: 1 Corinthians 13:3-4 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. [4] Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

Hebrews 10:34-35 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance. [35] Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
i guess agape meant more like "to prefer" back then, weird huh
Charity or Love is about as confusing as ‘to fast’ in Isaiah 58:4-9. One definition and then another...
ha i guess there is a point to that fwiw
 
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God tells us to get wisdom, and to get understanding, not repudiate them. Over and over, "I don't want you to be ignorant of this . . .
so then no matter how many times i say "it isnt about knowing per se" you are going to persist, huh
ok
i even understand i guess
best of luck to yall both ok, charity too
 

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so then no matter how many times i say "it isnt about knowing per se" you are going to persist, huh
ok
i even understand i guess
best of luck to yall both ok, charity too
tangent question:
when a little small young child is in the arms or on the lap of his father,
even if the child cannot talk yet, or write, or read, or tell his right hand from his left hand,

what does he know ? Does it matter what he knows ?
 
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Donations yeah. Charity or Love is about as confusing as ‘to fast’ in Isaiah 58:4-9. One definition and then another...yet whatever it is in 1 Corinthians it is needful for without: 1 Corinthians 13:3-4 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. [4] Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

Hebrews 10:34-35 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance. [35] Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
sidebar: long ago I read reports that the word/ meaning of "charity" (English - Western thought)
is not ever found in Scripture.
Instead, originally "righteousness", became and remains mostly unknown ..... as if "doing what is righteous" was changed to "do charity" (charity is not righteous nor is it righteousness, nor is it obedience) .
 

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Think so too. Was thinking what charity looks to me and I have no answer. Looks like that would be easy. I’ve see it in God. But not in me. I guess that is why Philippians 2:21 stands out so much. Can relate to seeking after my own.
For comparison, remember somewhere in Romans 2 the ones who DO what is right according to TORAH are JUSTIFIED (BY GOD).
Those who have TORAH, but DO NOT DO what is right according to TORAH, are UNjustified (according to GOD).

DOing God's Word, by faith, is righteous - as He Accomplishes this in us/ disciples/ born again set apart ones faithfully and truthfully in line with all Scripture.
Though this is clearly and clear in God's Word Revealed,
THis is not taught in america, is it ?
 

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For comparison, remember somewhere in Romans 2 the ones who DO what is right according to TORAH are JUSTIFIED (BY GOD).
Those who have TORAH, but DO NOT DO what is right according to TORAH, are UNjustified (according to GOD).

DOing God's Word, by faith, is righteous - as He Accomplishes this in us/ disciples/ born again set apart ones faithfully and truthfully in line with all Scripture.
Though this is clearly and clear in God's Word Revealed,
THis is not taught in america, is it ?

Not really, that is not taught in real Christian Churches. That wasn't actually what Paul's Message was in Romans. And you have to keep reading in Romans 2, and even to the end of Romans 7 to fully understand where he was coming from.

In the first part of Romans 2, Paul is merely 'setting the stage', so to speak. He indeed is pointing to an understanding involving God's laws and judgments. Then he shows why he gave that first... because our 'justification' is ultimately subject to forgiveness through the Blood of Jesus Christ, otherwise no man could be saved, because we ALL have sinned and fall short...

Rom 2:17-29
17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,

18 And knowest His will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;

19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,

20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.

21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?

22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?

23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?

24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.

25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.

26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:


29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

KJV


By the time one gets to the end of Romans 7, Apostle Paul has explained that we can ONLY be justified by Faith on Jesus Christ, and cannot be saved by just keeping God's laws. The weak link for us all is what Paul said in Galatians 3:22...

Gal 3:22
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
KJV
 

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Not really
Yes, really.
You quoted a bunch.
Did you read where the gentiles, who have not Torah, when they DO Torah, (live right in God's Sight), they are justified ?
And those who have Torah (the churches?), when they do not DO Torah, they are unjustified ?
SO do not only hear God's Word, but be hearers AND Doers of God's Word, as written.
 

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Yes, really.
You quoted a bunch.
Did you read where the gentiles, who have not Torah, when they DO Torah, (live right in God's Sight), they are justified ?
And those who have Torah (the churches?), when they do not DO Torah, they are unjustified ?
SO do not only hear God's Word, but be hearers AND Doers of God's Word, as written.

May YHVH rebuke you blind Pharisee, in the Name of Jesus Christ!
 

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So you deny Scripture openly (even ones you posted!) ? Today ?
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That is OK and most glorious for the saved, both alive and dead, but what about the unsaved, both alive and dead?
Will they get a second chance, AFTER Christ resurrects/raptures His church?
Why or why not?

Your question, puts a Definitive on the Rapture of Christ's Church...

TO back up...
"THE Church", was Established, VIA Jesus.
Becoming A MEMBER, of Jesus' CHURCH, was Established, VIA Christ.

It is an OFFERING, an invitation of sorts.
Here's Jesus' Church, All are Welcome, to hear, learn, freely choose to BECOME a member or Not.

Being a Member or Not, establishes A Division among People.
Members Are Called..."IN" Christ, which means:
They "are Acceptably" crucified bodily WITH Jesus (may or may not continue physical bodily life)...if they continue physical Bodily Life...they Spiritually Live "IN" Christ Jesus' RISEN Living Body, their soul is saved, and their Natural spirit (Truth) in their heart, becomes Born Again, from Gods Seed. They receive a NEW Heart, where Gods SEED is planted...and the man, receives A NEW Truth, Gods Truth, From the Spirit of God, that dwells Within their New Heart.

There IS A GREAT, Great Separation Coming...
This Separation...is to Finalize the DIVISIONS...
Men in belief...Men not in belief
Gods People Israel...Jesus' people IN Christ
Holy angel's...Fallen angels
New Heaven...Corrupt Heaven
New Earth...Corrupt Earth

Preparation:
God IN Heaven
Jesus IN Heaven
Christ IN Heaven
Those IN Christ Jesus' People on Earth.
The Lord Leaves Heaven, DESCENDS TO the Clouds above the Earth.
Sounds a Signal, those IN Christ Hear the Signal and Rise UP to meet their Lord IN the Air.
They are...Christ's Church...AND...His BRIDE, who have been Prepared IN Christ to be Call to BECOME Joined in marriage to their Lord, to whom they Agreed, and shall then See Him.

Effected:
Absence of God on Earth.
Absence of Jesus on Earth.
Absence of Christ on Earth.
Absence of Christ's BRIDE on Earth.

Great Tribulation:
Presence of Satan On Earth.
Power of Satan Wielding Authority On Earth.
People without God, without Christ On Earth.
People Hearing Satan, Looking forward to Satan's Promises of a Pleasant World of Peace and Safety.
People hearing The False Prophet preaching, harmony in One God for the good of all men.
People content, Things Seem to be acceptably Fair and pleasant.

But, but, but...there ARE still ON Earth...(those pesky "Faithful to God" JEWS...!!)
a monkey wrench in Satan's PLAN!

Oh and here we go...pfft! God SENDS...Two "protected" Godly Witnesses, TO of all places, the Jews Holy City of Jerusalem, where millions of Faithful Jews Reside.
These TWO Witnesses, protected From Death, with power to rain down Fire....Preach ... the Gospel Truth OF Jesus Christ, (primarily TO Jews / Gods People) for 3.5 years. Now we have ON Earth, faithful men to God...becoming ALSO in Faithfulness TO Christ Jesus....during the Tribulation. Those Two Servants, then Become Killed.
Then...God send more Servants...To the Tribes of ISRAEL...144,000. 12,000 from each Tribe,to Hear the Gospel of Christ Jesus.
These are Gods People (ISRAEL).
THEY (of The Tribes) who ACCEPT Christ Jesus...become Saved...and Bodily dead.
Many become Called to the Wedding Banquet, Guests and Witnesses of Christ Jesus and His Bride.

So after Christ's Church IS Raptured and During the Tribulation (SEALS & Trumps) will Others become Saved. Yes...particularly Gods People (ISRAEL )...

And there is Also an Angel who shall preach the Gospel to the Whole World, so All may hear and (IF they have Not taken the MARK of the Beast), they Also may be Saved...and Bodily killed...(Before the BOWLS) are poured out.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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Taken wrote:
"A soul OUT of the Body IS Still Living, and the Body IS Dead."

> Okay, it appears that you have done some serious research, according to Moses' knowledge and understanding at that time.

Now, how does Genesis 6:17
Genesis 7:15, 22 apply to Adam?
Shall we say that animals who die are
"a soul out of the body *[that] is still living"?

* [my insertion]

I would say the Word of God Spoken or Written was primarily for mankind.
I do not know of an animal that can read, write or sin. So what becomes of an animal's soul, I do not know. I am confidant animals shall live among men on the new earth. I believe God has prepared a place for them.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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I would say the Word of God Spoken or Written was primarily for mankind.
I do not know of an animal that can read, write or sin. So what becomes of an animal's soul, I do not know. I am confidant animals shall live among men on the new earth. I believe God has prepared a place for them.

Glory to God,
Taken
Animals have a soul?
Or is it more like they were created with the capacity to breathe the breath of life, and therefore became a living soul also?
I think that is more likely the case.
 

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Your question, puts a Definitive on the Rapture of Christ's Church...

TO back up...
"THE Church", was Established, VIA Jesus.
Becoming A MEMBER, of Jesus' CHURCH, was Established, VIA Christ.

It is an OFFERING, an invitation of sorts.
Here's Jesus' Church, All are Welcome, to hear, learn, freely choose to BECOME a member or Not.

Being a Member or Not, establishes A Division among People.
Members Are Called..."IN" Christ, which means:
They "are Acceptably" crucified bodily WITH Jesus (may or may not continue physical bodily life)...if they continue physical Bodily Life...they Spiritually Live "IN" Christ Jesus' RISEN Living Body, their soul is saved, and their Natural spirit (Truth) in their heart, becomes Born Again, from Gods Seed. They receive a NEW Heart, where Gods SEED is planted...and the man, receives A NEW Truth, Gods Truth, From the Spirit of God, that dwells Within their New Heart.

There IS A GREAT, Great Separation Coming...
This Separation...is to Finalize the DIVISIONS...
Men in belief...Men not in belief
Gods People Israel...Jesus' people IN Christ
Holy angel's...Fallen angels
New Heaven...Corrupt Heaven
New Earth...Corrupt Earth

Preparation:
God IN Heaven
Jesus IN Heaven
Christ IN Heaven
Those IN Christ Jesus' People on Earth.
The Lord Leaves Heaven, DESCENDS TO the Clouds above the Earth.
Sounds a Signal, those IN Christ Hear the Signal and Rise UP to meet their Lord IN the Air.
They are...Christ's Church...AND...His BRIDE, who have been Prepared IN Christ to be Call to BECOME Joined in marriage to their Lord, to whom they Agreed, and shall then See Him.

Effected:
Absence of God on Earth.
Absence of Jesus on Earth.
Absence of Christ on Earth.
Absence of Christ's BRIDE on Earth.

Great Tribulation:
Presence of Satan On Earth.
Power of Satan Wielding Authority On Earth.
People without God, without Christ On Earth.
People Hearing Satan, Looking forward to Satan's Promises of a Pleasant World of Peace and Safety.
People hearing The False Prophet preaching, harmony in One God for the good of all men.
People content, Things Seem to be acceptably Fair and pleasant.

But, but, but...there ARE still ON Earth...(those pesky "Faithful to God" JEWS...!!)
a monkey wrench in Satan's PLAN!

Oh and here we go...pfft! God SENDS...Two "protected" Godly Witnesses, TO of all places, the Jews Holy City of Jerusalem, where millions of Faithful Jews Reside.
These TWO Witnesses, protected From Death, with power to rain down Fire....Preach ... the Gospel Truth OF Jesus Christ, (primarily TO Jews / Gods People) for 3.5 years. Now we have ON Earth, faithful men to God...becoming ALSO in Faithfulness TO Christ Jesus....during the Tribulation. Those Two Servants, then Become Killed.
Then...God send more Servants...To the Tribes of ISRAEL...144,000. 12,000 from each Tribe,to Hear the Gospel of Christ Jesus.
These are Gods People (ISRAEL).
THEY (of The Tribes) who ACCEPT Christ Jesus...become Saved...and Bodily dead.
Many become Called to the Wedding Banquet, Guests and Witnesses of Christ Jesus and His Bride.

So after Christ's Church IS Raptured and During the Tribulation (SEALS & Trumps) will Others become Saved. Yes...particularly Gods People (ISRAEL )...

And there is Also an Angel who shall preach the Gospel to the Whole World, so All may hear and (IF they have Not taken the MARK of the Beast), they Also may be Saved...and Bodily killed...(Before the BOWLS) are poured out.

Glory to God,
Taken
The only division that i have aproblem with, is that you have set up the Jews for salvation AFTER Jesus returns in flaming fire (your rapture) whereby the church is gloriously resurrected/transformed, and the wicked, both alive and dead, are destroyed in that day. It is a simultaneous event of salvation for the saved, and destruction of the unsaved.
In the following scripture, please notice the word "when" written two times in
2 Thessalonians 1:7-10.

Btw, there is no such thing as a 3.5-7 year tribulation period. All of that form of belief is a fabrication, due to a very serious error of interpretation in Daniel 9:24-27
 

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For comparison, remember somewhere in Romans 2 the ones who DO what is right according to TORAH are JUSTIFIED (BY GOD).
Those who have TORAH, but DO NOT DO what is right according to TORAH, are UNjustified (according to GOD).

DOing God's Word, by faith, is righteous - as He Accomplishes this in us/ disciples/ born again set apart ones faithfully and truthfully in line with all Scripture.
Though this is clearly and clear in God's Word Revealed,
THis is not taught in america, is it ?
It is written to show that the people in Christ's day had identical questions.
John 6[28] Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Other than that, instead of that, or more than that, justifies no one in the sight of God!
 

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Animals have a soul?
Or is it more like they were created with the capacity to breathe the breath of life, and therefore became a living soul also?
I think that is more likely the case.

My view is God creates and makes Vessels.
(Vessels being a type of container.)
And that God "puts" Life "in" the Vessels.
And the "Life" God "puts" in "the contained Vessel", is Gods, that God Can and Does Also, "take out" of the "Vessel".

(And to Note: The "Vessels" always appear to be "Not contaminated" when God "puts" Life from Him "in" the Vessel.)

Adam (male & female) created outside of the garden, and put mankind in the Garden.
Adam & the Garden/ Vessels.

LIFE in a soul/ Vessel God put IN Adam.
LIFE in Gods Word/ Vessel God put IN a woman's Virgin womb/ Vessel.
LIFE in Gods Word/ Vessel God put in a Body/ Vessel, God prepared.
LIFE in a New Heart/Vessel God Puts His Seed/ Vessel.
LIFE in Gods Seed/ Vessel, is Gods Spiritual Truth.
LIFE in Gods Seed/ Vessel, in a new Heart / Vessel, Births a man a new Truth/ Vessel ; Gods Spiritual Truth.

God Puts ... Life from Him (who IS Life) in "Vessels".... and Takes Life (From Him), out of "Vessels".

Contaminated (unworthy), to be used again, Corrupted, (aka Sin, against God), Dead, (NOT WITH God)...

God creates the Vessels...
Puts LIFE "from" Him in the Vessels.
Contaminated/ Corrupt Vessels ARE either "Restored"..."Made anew"...
and The Vessel REMAINS with Gods LIFE in it;
or "Destroyed";
and the LIFE in The Vessel RETURNS To God, and the Vessel Destroyed.

God has provided His Knowledge of a WAY, ORDER of HOW "mankind" CAN;
Have his individual Vessels ...
"Restored, made anew, destroyed."

It is "mankind's" FREEWILL to choose, what Will Be, Will Apply, to that individual.

I do Not Believe "that" Way, or Offering was Given TO ANIMALS....(or Angel's.)

Men have Blood LIFE of their individual Body.
( That natural "Blood LIFE" is already Sentenced TO Die. It Shall Die. )
The Dead Body of Every man Shall Be Raised, without its Blood LIFE, but WITH the Living Soul. Stand in Judgement. Be sentenced. (according TO the Evidence Recorded IN Gods Books).
Depending ON the Evidence...The Sentence IS carried out.
Soul Restored...?
Heart New...?
Gods Seed...?
Born Again spirit...?
Gods Truth ....?
With God...?
Body Raised UP in anew Glorified (Bloodless) Body, Remains Forever With God.
^^ That man "OVERCAME" Evil, By and Through, ACCEPTING Gods Offering Of HIS Power (Christ), TO Overcome Evil.

Evidence;
Soul NOT restored...?
Heart NOT made anew...?
Gods Seed NOT received...?
No Born Again spirit...?
Gods Truth...NOT received...?
Without God...?
Body Raised UP in Same Corrupt state (Bloodless)... LIFE in the soul RETURNS TO God...
Body (Vessel) AND Soul (Vessel), Destroyed.
^^ That man DID NOT "OVERCOME" Evil.
He DID NOT Freely / willingly Choose to Accept Gods Offering OF Gods Power (Christ), to Overcome Evil.

(As long as A man IS still Alive IN his "BLOOD" bodily LIFE (even during the Tribulation) ... he May freely Choose to Accept Gods Offering....IF he has NOT offered his BLOOD LIFE and sealed Allegiance To another.)

Animals have Gods Breath of Life.
Animals have a BLOOD Life Body that Shall Die.
Gods Breath IS His.
Animals and mankind BREATH Oxygen.
Man and Animals DO NOT "Breath" Gods Breath.
Mankind Can sin (stand Against God).
Animals do not sin, nor is there a Scriptural reference for an Animal to make a Confession of Belief In God.

Glory to God,
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Those are alot words to describe what God created, who breathe the breath of Life.

According to Moses' limited knowledge and understanding, what else would he call it, except the breath of life?

Gen. 2[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Gen. 6[17] And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

Gen. 15] And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.

[22] All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

Today, maybe a Medical Doctor or Nurse can explain "breathing", using another term for it, such as the inhaling of
Oxygen and the exhaling of Carbon Dioxide.

What else would it be, when you consider the first part of Leviticus 17[11] For the life of the flesh is in the blood:

Q. What would be in the blood,
that would sustain the life of the flesh?
A. Oxygen from the earth's atmosphere.