Christian Fiction, Sci fi,make believe...

historyb · Jul 13, 2020

brian100 said:
How do you know what Luke would write?

Number one we have St. Luke's letters in the Bible (We all know you don't like the Bible). Number two St. Luke was a Doctor who knew how to write back in Ancient times which was a huge deal and he would not write anything crass, he would write in a very educated manner because he was a very educated man as can be seen from his two letters in the Bible. Number three and most important St. Luke always pointed to Christ, always and that is something the person who wrote your postcard neglected which raises huge red flags.

brian100 said:
Beauty comes from God and that include beautiful to look at woman. Are u the other?

My wife was beautiful!!! and I wasn't ashamed to have it.

So is my wife but that is not the problem, the person who wrote your post card made one fatal flaw they never pointed to Christ but instead talked about women St. Lke would always point to Christ always check the book you hate, the Bible

brian100 said:
In Hell they are all gey.

No some are like you, like me, like others here. Sexual orientation doesn't manner in the afterlife where

brian100 said:
Luke might of wrote about me and what I thought.. except dropping cans.

No, but you might. Yes Brian the post card has your exact writing style and syntax indicating that you wrote it (As you like to say checkmate). Which would be understandable you being in a deep depression.

amadeus · Jul 13, 2020

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
It is all fabricated.

And is this conclusion based on a personal revelation to from God or is it based on your own beliefs? Have you ever made a mistake? Are you always in the Spirit of God?

I am getting reacted against because many here have not heard sound biblical teaching of the Historic, confessional churches.
When these false ministries are exposed people defend the error saying...oh, that guy is extreme, but what i do is different.

What if your criteria is in error?

amadeus · Jul 13, 2020

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
That is the value of these boards, information can be shared in public.
Each person can then make informed decisions.You cannot tell them it did not happen, I can.
We have a closed canon [rule]of scripture, nothing added or taken away. The Spirit quickens the word to us now
I reject automatically all such extra-biblical claims right away, because I remain under the God-given protection of scripture .
Oral Roberts 900 ft Jesus, 7 hour conversation, NO.
Joseph Smith , leaves his bible, goes out in the woods, the angel Moroni, golden plates...NO
Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, William Branham, Smith Wigglesworth, Alexander Dowie, Kenneth Hagin, Rod Parsley, Creflo[take your]Dollar, Joyce Meyer, Paula White, Furtick, Duplantis,Todd White,David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite, Jim Jones, NO.
We are not to seek new or additional revelation, but rather obey what we are given
Jesus taught we cannot go back and forth to heaven Lk 16. We have scripture. Jesus taught what we need to know about Him from Scripture.Lk24.

I had posted about the Apostles earlier, here is a brief list of what I posted, Acts 4:33, Acts5:1-12,Acts14:3, Acts 27...I will expand on it later.

And if the Book, the written Bible, is a dead letter without the quickening of the Holy Spirit in a person, without the writing of it on our hearts by God, where are all of your conclusions?

Jane_Doe22 · Jul 13, 2020

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
I think you believe these things happened.
I am no where called to believe your experiences, but I am called to examine all claims in the light of scripture.

Anthony,

If a person thoroughly studies scripture in prayer, listening the God speaking, and gets answer A.
And you say a different answer, answer B.

Why in the world should such a person give you and your answer B the time of day? Other than "because Anthony said so and Anthony believes he is right"?

Bobby Jo · Jul 13, 2020

Jane_Doe22 said:
... Why in the world should such a person give you and your answer B the time of day? ...

Hi JD22,
... they really shouldn't ...

Proverbs 26:4

With Best Regards (WBR),
Bobby Jo

Jane_Doe22 · Jul 13, 2020

Bobby Jo said:
Hi JD22,
... they really shouldn't ...

With Best Regards (WBR),
Bobby Jo

Agreed.
Same with any other person teaching.

Though I would very much like @Anthony D'Arienzo to address the question himself.

Bobby Jo · Jul 13, 2020

Jane_Doe22 said:
Agreed.
Same with any other person teaching.

... well, GOD did sent Teachers along with Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, & Pastors, -- but what we hear MUST be judged (1 Cor. 14:29) against what Scripture and History (Deut. 18:22) validate. And there's a LOT that's INVALID!

With VERY Best Regards, (WVBR),
Bobby Jo

amadeus · Jul 13, 2020

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
We live in a world where all kinds of claims are made.
I do not have to be there to personally view every persons experience, because God has given a completed revelation, a rule for faith and practice, the closed canon of scripture.
I and other obedient believers can reject out of hand any supposed new revelation as God has sealed it off.

You can see that people are questioning my salvation, warning me for quenching or grieving the Spirit, accusing me of all manner of things, but not one person is actually mounting a consistent scriptural account to demonstrate any error.

I am only offering what is the mainline orthodox beliefs of the Church for years.
Have you studied any of the confessions of faith? Not one agrees with these people making extra biblical claims. All believe in a closed canon;

I see you answering most everyone else on this thread, but while I took the time to respond to each of the points on your OP in a lengthy response [#66 plus others] , you have even acknowledged that I am here. Do you have me on ignore? You don't have to agree with me but since it is your thread, it would be nice to hear something about what I said...

Anthony D'Arienzo · Jul 13, 2020

Bobby Jo said:
And when we're in heaven, we won't have a need for revelation. But for now, they're still necessary.

Bobby Jo

God told us all He intends to. He did not forget or leave anything out.

Anthony D'Arienzo · Jul 13, 2020

Nancy said:
It seems that nothing will ever make a difference to many on here as they think they have ALL truth and everyone else is lost. Unteachable and ONLY want to "teach" their own ways and beliefs.

Nancy, do you know anyone who posts what they believe is error?
Did anyone suggest anyone is lost?

Anthony D'Arienzo · Jul 13, 2020

amadeus said:
I see you answering most everyone else on this thread, but while I took the time to respond to each of the points on your OP in a lengthy response [#66 plus others] , you have even acknowledged that I am here. Do you have me on ignore? You don't have to agree with me but since it is your thread, it would be nice to hear something about what I said...

Hello Amadeus,
I was jumping around a bit as those who invent stories were reacting against the truth, so it is possible I did not see it, I will look now, sorry for the delay.

amadeus · Jul 13, 2020

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
Hello Amadeus,
I was jumping around a bit as those who invent stories were reacting against the truth, so it is possible I did not see it, I will look now, sorry for the delay.

Thank you!

Nancy · Jul 13, 2020

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
Nancy, do you know anyone who posts what they believe is error?
Did anyone suggest anyone is lost?

Oh gosh yes, over the last 2.5 years right up to today I see it all the time. "Your wrong and I am right" kind of attitude. Yes, I have come across many threads where people are told they are not saved, hence lost.
Unless a person posting in error knows it and is basically satan working through people, no, I do not know of any who post what they think is error.

ScottA · Jul 13, 2020

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
I and other obedient believers can reject out of hand any supposed new revelation as God has sealed it off.

That is the error you are making.

God has not "sealed it off" but has "poured it out upon all flesh" (Joel 2:28-29).

Anthony D'Arienzo · Jul 13, 2020

amadeus,

There are certainly some false things set forth by some to be of God, but then again there are the real and true things that really are of God?

The scripture defines this for us.

We should be very slow to generalize like that. One case at a time as we have the need and as God talks to us about something. God does talk to people!

You say God talks to people. Let me ask for clarification.
1]Are you suggesting an audible voice that could be recorded on a tape recorder or video?
2] Are you suggesting some "still small voice" like many hold out for?
3] Some other voice?
4] If an audible voice, what did it sound like? Did you detect an accent?

Yes, I have,

You would have to explain and clarify.

I believe that every one who lives by faith in God has a vision. The degree of clarity differs.

I am interested in your thoughts on this. If you have posted on this somewhere share the link, otherwise I would like you to expand on this if time permits.

But you are I believe speaking of a single one time occurrence such as with Paul on the road to Damascus or Joseph the husband of Mary was given letting advising him to go down to Egypt. I haven't had one like that that I can recall.

That was more what was being discussed.

I have been praying in tongues since March of 1976. Since 2002 it has become a daily necessity for me... as part of my walk and regular communication with God. Without it I might be spiritually and physically dead.

I am not certain what you mean here?
1] Are you praying in an actual language?
2] What about this do you see as vital to your prayer? Spiritual life, Physical life?

I think that no one but God has done this either physically and spiritually. He has, however, certainly at times worked through people to do it. There is also certainly more than one person on this forum who was dead but now is alive. Is this not what happens when a person is born again? Can no one here say honestly, "I was dead, but now I am alive"?

Are you speaking of Spiritual or physical death?

Never mind Luke... Has anyone here on this forum ever received a message from God? I certainly have. But... to move into the area which is where you are probably concerned, I received a postcard with a message written by my natural mother after she was cremated.

Why are you suggesting this was of God?What did the postcard say?

I may have indeed, but since he was not saying, "I am an apostle", how would I know for certain? Should we always be asking every good brother we meet the question, "Are you an apostle"?

There is no need, there are no Apostles on earth today.

12] bound satan
Yes, by the power of the Holy Ghost in me.

How did you know it was Satan himself?
If you bound Him, how did He get loose again?

Cannot answer this question without a definition. Should I check with google? My Greek is not so good.

Why would you believe that no one here has?

"Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine." I Tim 5:17

Certainly someone here besides myself has rendered onto a man of God double honour as indicated by what Paul wrote! That would be a double portion of honor, would it not?

I have but it has not been something I perceived with the 5 carnal senses. I am sure that others have although they might not use that word, aura, to describe it

Some here, in addition to me, certainly have!

It's never happened to me, but I have witnessed it with others.

You are I am sure using this for certain type of ministry which many here denounce, but really by faith when we are not asking amiss, are we not supposed to claim some things from God?

"Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts." James 4:2-3

I have no idea what you are talking about, so I have no comment.

I have not personally had such an experience that I can recall, but I have witnessed it in others.

God does not work with everyone exactly the same. It depends on where person is in his walk with God and what part of the Body of Christ he is called to be. He spoke to Elijah in a "still small voice" but to some God is likely speaking in other ways. Because I have not personally experienced some things should I automatically reject or even condemn everything outside of my personal experience or understanding?[/QUOTE]

Anthony D'Arienzo · Jul 13, 2020

ScottA said:
That is the error you are making.

God has not "sealed it off" but has "poured it out upon all flesh" (Joel 2:28-29).

Joel 2 was fulfilled at Pentecost Acts2:16....this is that.

Heart2Soul · Jul 13, 2020

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
I think you believe these things happened.
I am no where called to believe your experiences, but I am called to examine all claims in the light of scripture.
The time the woman told me she saw the Angel moroni right in her living room, I also let her know that whatever she thought she saw was not found in scripture.

I have witnesses.

ScottA · Jul 13, 2020

Anthony D'Arienzo said:
Joel 2 was fulfilled at Pentecost Acts2:16....this is that.

Well, then you have a problem with interpretation. "All [flesh]" means all.

If you are going to make exception, then "all" have not sinned either, and then anything goes and you can stop judging others.

Heart2Soul · Jul 13, 2020

Enoch111 said:
How can they NOT be the signs of a true apostle, when Paul plainly states that they are? The question of whether they are gifts of the Holy Spirit is not even in dispute. But the Bible says that they Holy Spirit gives them according to His will. And according to His will some gifts ceased and others continued.

But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. (1 Cor 12:11)

It is significant that Paul picked only three gifts which would cease. And the context makes it clear that they are all related to divine revelation. When the book of Revelation was completed those gifts were withdrawn. Therefore none of the Early Church Fathers -- some who were even acquainted with the apostles -- claimed to be either (1) apostles, (2) prophets, (3) miracle workers, or (4) tongues speakers.

“Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.”
— 2 Corinthians 12:12 (KJV)..............
1. First of all this verse does not specify what signs, wonders and mighty deeds they did but I do know that Paul especially manifested the power to heal and cast out demons.
2. This is written to the Corinthians following the previous visit Paul made when he taught them about spiritual gifts.....we should remember to keep things in order...line upon line, precept upon precept.

PAUL TEACHES THE CORINTHIANS ABOUT SPIRITUAL GIFTS...PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO VERSE 7
1 Corinthians 12 (KJV)
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¹ Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

…
⁴ Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
⁵ And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
⁶ And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
⁷ But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
⁸ For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
⁹ To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
¹⁰ To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
¹¹ But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
¹² For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
¹³ For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Did you catch verse 7? THE MANIFESTATION OF THE SPIRIT IS GIVEN To EVERY Man TO PROFIT WITHAL.

Anthony D'Arienzo · Jul 13, 2020

"Heart2Soul,

The very last verse of John says....and many more miracles did Jesus do that all the books in the world could not contain them.

People go into error by treating the scriptures lightly and carelessly. Let's see where this verse is and what it actually says;
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:

31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Notice many other signs, but THESE ARE WRITTEN THAT YOU MIGHT BELIEVE.
Apostles were temporary, signs were temporary,BUT THESE ARE WRITTEN.
They are written to fulfill Jesus promises made to the Apostles and then by extension to the church so we can know with certainty what God has for us,

Let's think on this....the only ones you know about are the ones written in the NT.

All scripture contains supernatural revelation for Christians.

So all the other acts that did not get recorded and added to scripture so it is NOT SCRIPTURAL but they did happen

....

They happened by Jesus and the Apostles, at that time.

All my actions are not in the Bible but they did happen to me AS it happened to those in the Bible

.

No.What happened in scripture is written by men moved by the Spirit. I am told to believe scripture, not you or others anecdotal stories. No where in scripture are we told to believe such things.

That makes it scriptural by same definition and actions.

Not even close

There is so much more to God than we will ever come to know and understand in our lifetime. But unless you seek Him...to really come to know Him....His heart, His thoughts and His ways then you will always be stuck regurgitating what someone else taught you to believe.

I believe you are trying to be helpful, but error does not help. Your statement implies that
"you have really come to know him", and suggest I have not.

I do not have thin skin, but it is sad that you and others think you have this special knowledge and experiences that those who believe the bible do not have,
I do use other other teachers who are gifted persons. I do not despise the actual gift of teaching God has given to the church.
This board has a problem in that all the moderators are given over to these new unbiblical ideas. the fact that my last two threads were moved to the "unorthodox".
This is censorship and there is no orthodox moderators to balance this nonsense.
Josho claiming a car drove 160 miles with no fuel is delusional.
That is considered an "orthodox comment"?
Literally anyone can claim anything, and no one can question or suggest that it is not true.
That happens when scripture as the rule of faith and practice is set aside.

When you seek Him you WILL find Him.

God sought me over 40yrs ago, so again, I do think you mean this to be helpful, but I know the lord, and i know His word.

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