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12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. - Philippians 2:12-13.

We have been on this subject for a while but it is so important to your understanding that you can not move on in God until it gets fixed in you by the Holyspirit. Working out your salvation is Christ being worked out of you. I know it just seems like words at times, or some may not understand it but Christ in you is your salvation. How are you saved? What saved you when you came to God or first believed. The moment you believed, another was birthed in you and that is your salvation. The seed of God (Christ) was placed in you and you became a birthed child of God. I also know we like to have a hand in our salvation but their is nothing you can do but believe and Christ in you became your salvation and life. What is a new creation? Christ in you! That is two people that have become one in spirit the moment of salvation. So your salvation is a person in you. Now there is another oneness that has to do with your soul-mind but it has nothing to do with when you first believed.

Now we believe unto salvation and that salvation is a person. Can you feel the good news grip you. When I discovered the salvation of God was a person to say great elation came over me would be an under statement. If you will search the scriptures as we are admonished to do, the final out come will be "Christ in you." What a simple and marvelous plan our Father has to birth his own children by Christ in them. The term "Christ in you" or terms meaning the same thing such as in whom, by whom, and so on is given to the believer over 145 times by Paul alone.

Do you have any idea how important that is, it's like our father is screaming at us like he did Paul on the Damascus road. And like what happened to Paul if we try any other way the end is we fight against what God has done for you, in you. The snare, the trick of Satan is to keep a believer from knowing Christ is their salvation, to keep you working at your salvation. To try to clean yourself up and get presentable to God. Vicious cycle it will be and religion (Satan inspired) is more than willing to find you things to do to keep working at your salvation. Religion is an evil that is perpetrated upon humanity for deception. Working out your salvation is; the believer with knowledge lives by the life of another and that life is worked out of you as you are. We thank God for his word because there is no grey areas in God it is all black and white. Hallelujah!

You don't need to change, you were already exchanged from death to life the moment you believed. Your change in soul-mind comes as you grow in understanding of what happened to you the moment you believed. So it is imperative we live by the new life in us (Christ in you) as the father intended from the foundation of the world when there was nothing but the Godhead and a plan. Revelation of the plan of God (the glory of God) revealed to you is the father's way of communicating to his children the life that is in them and they must live by that life because there is no other life, no other way, no other truth. Working out salvation is living by the life of another! Christ in you the hope of glory. Glory to God.
 
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In Philippians 2:12, we notice that Paul said to "work out" your own salvation and not "work for" your salvation. Salvation by works is not being taught here. The idea of "working out" your salvation is to progress to completion in spiritual growth and maturity in the process of ongoing sanctification.
 

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In Philippians 2:12, we notice that Paul said to "work out" your own salvation and not "work for" your salvation. Salvation by works is not being taught here. The idea of "working out" your salvation is to progress to completion in spiritual growth and maturity in the process of ongoing sanctification.

excellent point that has to be said else someone will try to go there.
 

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what can demoralize many is that the man they where born into the world with still shows up. but the as John says the Lord is faithful to forgive. one must walk in a penitent lifestyle. meaning when one repented to come to Christ the repenting doesn't stop there you still walk in the flesh
 
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Gen3:15 Douay)

Her seed is still in the KJB.

A woman does not have "seed".
Only the man has "seed".
No man produced Jesus by "seed" or that Man would be Christ's Father.
The Holy Spirit produced Jesus in the womb of a Virgin.
The One who was born of this Virgin is God's only "begotten Son".
 
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I'll pretend you didn't say Her seed wasn't woman's seed.

You see KJ blundered by leaving that as her seed. NIV already got rid of it.
 

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I'll pretend you didn't say Her seed wasn't woman's seed.

You see KJ blundered by leaving that as her seed. NIV already got rid of it.

Its symbolic.
The seed of the Woman, is the "only begotten Son"...
This verse is not saying that Mary had Seed of herself, its revealing who the seed is, as God manifested in the Flesh.

Think of it like this... Paraphrase.....Mary, who contained the SeeD that was produced by the Holy Spirit, eventually gave birth to God in the Flesh.
 

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No.. KJB said her seed ... not his seed.

You'all want it to say his seed so bad, but its not true. It proves KJ monkey'ed around with that scripture.. even said the devil will bruise Jesus foot. B/c he made that up.
 

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12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. - Philippians 2:12-13.

We have been on this subject for a while but it is so important to your understanding that you can not move on in God until it gets fixed in you by the Holyspirit. Working out your salvation is Christ being worked out of you. I know it just seems like words at times, or some may not understand it but Christ in you is your salvation. How are you saved? What saved you when you came to God or first believed. The moment you believed, another was birthed in you and that is your salvation. The seed of God (Christ) was placed in you and you became a birthed child of God. I also know we like to have a hand in our salvation but their is nothing you can do but believe and Christ in you became your salvation and life. What is a new creation? Christ in you! That is two people that have become one in spirit the moment of salvation. So your salvation is a person in you. Now there is another oneness that has to do with your soul-mind but it has nothing to do with when you first believed.

Now we believe unto salvation and that salvation is a person. Can you feel the good news grip you. When I discovered the salvation of God was a person to say great elation came over me would be an under statement. If you will search the scriptures as we are admonished to do, the final out come will be "Christ in you." What a simple and marvelous plan our Father has to birth his own children by Christ in them. The term "Christ in you" or terms meaning the same thing such as in whom, by whom, and so on is given to the believer over 145 times by Paul alone.

Do you have any idea how important that is, it's like our father is screaming at us like he did Paul on the Damascus road. And like what happened to Paul if we try any other way the end is we fight against what God has done for you, in you. The snare, the trick of Satan is to keep a believer from knowing Christ is their salvation, to keep you working at your salvation. To try to clean yourself up and get presentable to God. Vicious cycle it will be and religion (Satan inspired) is more than willing to find you things to do to keep working at your salvation. Religion is an evil that is perpetrated upon humanity for deception. Working out your salvation is; the believer with knowledge lives by the life of another and that life is worked out of you as you are. We thank God for his word because there is no grey areas in God it is all black and white. Hallelujah!

You don't need to change, you were already exchanged from death to life the moment you believed. Your change in soul-mind comes as you grow in understanding of what happened to you the moment you believed. So it is imperative we live by the new life in us (Christ in you) as the father intended from the foundation of the world when there was nothing but the Godhead and a plan. Revelation of the plan of God (the glory of God) revealed to you is the father's way of communicating to his children the life that is in them and they must live by that life because there is no other life, no other way, no other truth. Working out salvation is living by the life of another! Christ in you the hope of glory. Glory to God.


I enjoyed reading it, Soulman, as I do with many of your posts when I have time. But let me add something that might show you an extended part if this teaching. What you have said above is true. The minute we receive Christ into ourselves we become a new creation, but this is only the new birth. Beyond this, there is a growth phase where Christ becomes fully grown within us, and where we eventually arrive at the fulness of His stature; not in ourselves, mind you, but in Him.

Let me quote few scriptures, and feel free to discuss them with me if you like:

My little children, for whom I travail again until Christ shall have been formed in you (Galatians 4:19).

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head — Christ — from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love. (Ephesians 4:11-16)


Now these verses are all talking about the growth of entire congregations, and about Christ being fully formed in them as a whole rather than individually. But the same principle applies to us on an individual level as well. This is what separates the spiritually mature from those Paul said were spiritual children in the faith, and could be blown about by every wind of doctrine. We are called to grow until He is fully formed in us, both individually and as a group.
 

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excellent point that has to be said else someone will try to go there.

WE CANNOT WORK OUT OUR OWN SALVATION for salvation is of God! It is He which worketh in us both to will and to do of His good pleasure.

The term "work out" means "make sure" of your salvation.

To God Be The Glory
 
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12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. - Philippians 2:12-13.

We have been on this subject for a while but it is so important to your understanding that you can not move on in God until it gets fixed in you by the Holyspirit. Working out your salvation is Christ being worked out of you. I know it just seems like words at times, or some may not understand it but Christ in you is your salvation. How are you saved? What saved you when you came to God or first believed. The moment you believed, another was birthed in you and that is your salvation. The seed of God (Christ) was placed in you and you became a birthed child of God. I also know we like to have a hand in our salvation but their is nothing you can do but believe and Christ in you became your salvation and life. What is a new creation? Christ in you! That is two people that have become one in spirit the moment of salvation. So your salvation is a person in you. Now there is another oneness that has to do with your soul-mind but it has nothing to do with when you first believed.

Now we believe unto salvation and that salvation is a person. Can you feel the good news grip you. When I discovered the salvation of God was a person to say great elation came over me would be an under statement. If you will search the scriptures as we are admonished to do, the final out come will be "Christ in you." What a simple and marvelous plan our Father has to birth his own children by Christ in them. The term "Christ in you" or terms meaning the same thing such as in whom, by whom, and so on is given to the believer over 145 times by Paul alone.

Do you have any idea how important that is, it's like our father is screaming at us like he did Paul on the Damascus road. And like what happened to Paul if we try any other way the end is we fight against what God has done for you, in you. The snare, the trick of Satan is to keep a believer from knowing Christ is their salvation, to keep you working at your salvation. To try to clean yourself up and get presentable to God. Vicious cycle it will be and religion (Satan inspired) is more than willing to find you things to do to keep working at your salvation. Religion is an evil that is perpetrated upon humanity for deception. Working out your salvation is; the believer with knowledge lives by the life of another and that life is worked out of you as you are. We thank God for his word because there is no grey areas in God it is all black and white. Hallelujah!

You don't need to change, you were already exchanged from death to life the moment you believed. Your change in soul-mind comes as you grow in understanding of what happened to you the moment you believed. So it is imperative we live by the new life in us (Christ in you) as the father intended from the foundation of the world when there was nothing but the Godhead and a plan. Revelation of the plan of God (the glory of God) revealed to you is the father's way of communicating to his children the life that is in them and they must live by that life because there is no other life, no other way, no other truth. Working out salvation is living by the life of another! Christ in you the hope of glory. Glory to God.

Your relationship with Christ shows so much in your posts...

They are such a blessing to the heart to read..

A fellow servant of His, Not me
 
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You have to ask God for the Truth.. bang your desk (knock) and plead to God to give it.
 

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Your relationship with Christ shows so much in your posts...

They are such a blessing to the heart to read..

A fellow servant of His, Not me

Thank you glad you enjoy them. It's been awhile