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Yehren

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In Taiwan, they dealt with the outbreak without shutting down the economy,
and did so very successfully.

Because their leader, instead of denying the problem, got on it, immediately and got it under control. Our leader blathered on about how it was completely controlled and would go away like a miracle. His incompetence let it get completely out of control.
 

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Bad Thinkers
Why do some people believe conspiracy theories? It’s not just who or what they know. It’s a matter of intellectual character.
Bad Thinkers

Worth a read.
 

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For the same reason we still arrest drunk drivers even though seat belts work.



That's already been tested. When most people start wearing masks, the number of new cases declines.



Since they've been shown to be effective, we should wear them.



Because they work.

The number of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) cases in Austria dropped from 90 to 10 cases per one million people, two weeks after the government required everyone to wear a face mask on April 6.


According to Daily Mail, "Austria seemingly managed to reverse its crisis by making masks compulsory on April 6, following a spike in infections in late March."
Austria Has 90% Drop in Coronavirus Cases After Requiring People to Wear Face Masks


Granted, that's a hard concept for some people, but there it is. You see, that's why OR personnel wear masks: it protects the person undergoing surgery.
I have a guilty pleasure of watching someone squirm when presented with a question they don’t want, or can’t answer. I recognize this as bad trait of mine. I am sorry that I have been persistent about this and will do better not to let my pride get ahold of me like that. Peace
 

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That's the secondary effect of Trump's incompetent response. Notice that almost all industrialized nations took quick action, limited the pandemic, and their economies are now recovering. Trump bungled the crisis, and now we have more deaths and the economy will take a bigger hit than was necessary.

The right keeps lying about the number of deaths, but that is impossible to hide. Hospitals give that data to lots of people, not just the CDC. I see were Trump has realized that, and is walking back his plan to hide the data.



You sound like an angry little Trump worshiper. Try to find a way to live with the reality.



If you do, then one of us does. Is that your problem here? The pandemic is hitting minorities harder than it's hitting the rest of us. And you seem desperately eager to continue that. You should realize that even if the deaths continue, black and Hispanic people are not going to just go away. It's a change in demographics, and terrifying as it seems to be for you, it's going to continue.
 

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That's the secondary effect of Trump's incompetent response. Notice that almost all industrialized nations took quick action, limited the pandemic, and their economies are now recovering. Trump bungled the crisis, and now we have more deaths and the economy will take a bigger hit than was necessary.

The right keeps lying about the number of deaths, but that is impossible to hide. Hospitals give that data to lots of people, not just the CDC. I see were Trump has realized that, and is walking back his plan to hide the data.

16 years of Clinton/Obama nearly destroyed America. They love to blame Trump for their mess.

You sound like an angry little Trump worshiper. Try to find a way to live with the reality.

Are you a Bible believing Christian?

If you do, then one of us does. Is that your problem here? The pandemic is hitting minorities harder than it's hitting the rest of us. And you seem desperately eager to continue that. You should realize that even if the deaths continue, black and Hispanic people are not going to just go away. It's a change in demographics, and terrifying as it seems to be for you, it's going to continue.

So you support the genocide of millions of unborn black babies?
 

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Some people are chipping themselves. Show me where there's any law proposed to make it mandatory.

ACLU would have a conniption.



Show us that. Checkable source.



But you can't provide a checkable example? I think I know why.



It's far too clumsy, expensive, and hackable. The Chinese, who specialize in this kind of thing, have found other technologies to work much more efficiently and a much lower cost.

I've got a number of chips in my wallet that can be remotely accessed. You probably do, too. And it's easy to counter.

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Many like you think chipping is funny, now. I truly hope you don't take the Mark.

Revelation 14 "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."
 

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Some people are chipping themselves. Show me where there's any law proposed to make it mandatory.
ACLU would have a conniption.

Show us that. Checkable source. You can't provide a checkable example? I think I know why.

It's far too clumsy, expensive, and hackable. The Chinese, who specialize in this kind of thing, have found other technologies to work much more efficiently and a much lower cost.

I've got a number of chips in my wallet that can be remotely accessed. You probably do, too. And it's easy to counter.

Many like you think chipping is funny, now. I truly hope you don't take the Mark.

It's funny, because there are so many easier, cheaper, and less hackable ways to keep track of people. I don't get this obsession with chips. But I also note that you aren't able to provide evidence for any of your claims.
 

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Some people are chipping themselves. Show me where there's any law proposed to make it mandatory.
ACLU would have a conniption.

Show us that. Checkable source. You can't provide a checkable example? I think I know why.

It's far too clumsy, expensive, and hackable. The Chinese, who specialize in this kind of thing, have found other technologies to work much more efficiently and a much lower cost.

I've got a number of chips in my wallet that can be remotely accessed. You probably do, too. And it's easy to counter.



It's funny, because there are so many easier, cheaper, and less hackable ways to keep track of people. I don't get this obsession with chips. But I also note that you aren't able to provide evidence for any of your claims.
"In February 2006, CityWatcher, Inc. of Cincinnati, OH became the first company in the world to implant microchips into their employees as part of their building access control and security system. The workers needed the implants to access the company's secure video tape room, as documented in USA Today."

Microchip implant (human) - Wikipedia
 

Yehren

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16 years of Clinton/Obama nearly destroyed America. They love to blame Trump for their mess.

Americans disagree with you. Trump hates Obama precisely because Obama was an effective president, who is admired by his fellow Americans.

If you claim to be a Bible-believing Christian, the truth should matter to you. But so far, you've avoided telling us that you are. Is that the issue? As Christians, we seek to follow God's commandments. How about you?

So you support the genocide of millions of unborn black babies?

You seem really into that kind of thing. Why does the race of the baby matter? If you're truly anti-abortion, why not join us and decry the killing of any unborn child?

Or even better, how about volunteering to work for pro-life? Have you noticed that grass-roots activists have been much more effective than politicians at stopping abortions? Of course, we think race should have nothing to do with it. Why does race matter so much to you?
 

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Some people are chipping themselves. Show me where there's any law proposed to make it mandatory.

"In February 2006, CityWatcher, Inc. of Cincinnati, OH became the first company in the world to implant microchips into their employees as part of their building access control and security system. The workers needed the implants to access the company's secure video tape room, as documented in USA Today."

Microchip implant (human) - Wikipedia

So there isn't any law, or even a proposed law by any legislator. Now do you realize there's no boogeyman in your closet, after all?
 

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Americans disagree with you. Trump hates Obama precisely because Obama was an effective president, who is admired by his fellow Americans.

If you claim to be a Bible-believing Christian, the truth should matter to you. But so far, you've avoided telling us that you are. Is that the issue? As Christians, we seek to follow God's commandments. How about you?



You seem really into that kind of thing. Why does the race of the baby matter? If you're truly anti-abortion, why not join us and decry the killing of any unborn child?

Or even better, how about volunteering to work for pro-life? Have you noticed that grass-roots activists have been much more effective than politicians at stopping abortions? Of course, we think race should have nothing to do with it. Why does race matter so much to you?
If you are anti-abortion then I applaud you for that! And I applaud Trump for being pro life! I mention race because the Left constantly uses the race card to stir racial problems that don't exist. But the genocide of unborn black babies doesn't bother them much. If fact, it is the Dems who run the baby butcher shops.
 

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If you are anti-abortion then I applaud you for that! And I applaud Trump for being pro life!

He was pro-abortion, until he wanted republican votes. He'd throw us under the bus in a minute if he thought it would do him any good. His professed support for homosexuals went down like that.

I mention race because the Left constantly uses the race card to stir racial problems that don't exist.

So you're claiming to be a leftist?
 

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If you are anti-abortion then I applaud you for that! And I applaud Trump for being pro life! I mention race because the Left constantly uses the race card to stir racial problems that don't exist.
He was pro-abortion, until he wanted republican votes. He'd throw us under the bus in a minute if he thought it would do him any good. His professed support for homosexuals went down like that.

Perhaps, but I still like that he's pro life now!

So you're claiming to be a leftist?

No, I'm a Bible believing Christian who hates abortion.
 

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The question is to what extent are masks effective? They are not perfect for sure. By shutting down churches and businesses, punishing those who do not wear masks... how much of this is designed to control people, or to test the gullibility of the populace? I do not believe that it started as a political means to gain power, but I believe that many Governors and mayors in America are using it that way.

All of it. I hate those who shut down Church and I say this to every liberals everywhere:

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All of it. I hate those who shut down Church and I say this to every liberal everywhere:

Hate is always useless for you to do. Evil people want you to hate them. It weakens you, and makes you easier to handle.

A person should seek to be an imitation of Christ, who hanging on the cross, asked God to forgive those who did it to Him. Few of us are that strong, but it is always what we should strive to do.
 
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