How could the Messiah be sinless?

Taken said:

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Tong2020 said:
I was formed in my mom's womb.

Taken said:
That's nice.
But "where" you were Formed was not the point.

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Perhaps not your point, but is my point. That you and I were not formed as God formed Adam, whom God formed directly from the dust of the earth.
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Tong2020 said:
How about you? Were you formed like Adam was formed?

Taken said:
Formed like Adam? Yes
Gen 2:
[7] And the LORD God formed man...

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Well, then you are openly in denial of the truth that you were formed in your mother's womb and living in the lie that you were formed in the same manner that Adam was formed.
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Tong2020 said:
How about Jesus, was He not formed in Mary's womb?

Taken said:
Scripture says God Prepared a Body for Jesus.

Heb 10:
[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

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Nobody is denying that scriptures. But the question is "How about Jesus, was He not formed in Mary's womb?" And the undeniable truth is that Jesus' body was formed in Mary's womb.
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Tong2020 said:
After God formed Adam of the dust of the earth and Eve from Adam's body, the generation of mankind was not like so, but by the coming together of man and woman in sexual union, man being formed in the mother's womb.

Taken said:
So Who Exactly came TOGETHER IN A SEXUAL UNION TO procreate Jesus?

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No issue about that. Scriptures tells us how Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb.

Mt. 1:20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.

Luke 1:31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name Jesus.

Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.
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Tong2020 said:
And does not the human being called "man"?

Taken said:
Do men call things as they SEE Them?
If a man SEES a person that LOOKS "LIKE" a Woman...Does he call that person A Woman?
Does that mean the person IS a woman?
What about a person wearing a Gorilla costume...could a Person call him a Gorilla?
People call thing by the putter appearance they Can See.
Have YOU Learned Jesus came to Earth Expressly in the Likeness Look as an Earthly man?
Have YOU Learned the Truth, He is The Word, Wisdom, Truth and Power of God...NOT a human man?

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You are evading the question.

Scriptures said Adam was a man. Scriptures said Jesus was a man. Is Adam a human? Yes he is. And so then is Jesus.
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1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,

Taken said:
I have no issue calling Jesus "a man"...
Clearly I disagree "with men Making and Calling Jesus A "Human" man."
Scripture never taught Jesus was a Human man.

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Do you know what a man is, as spoken in scriptures? Please tell us what to you is man.

It also seems to me that a human to you is different from a man. If so, please tell us how they are different.

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DNB said:

You're not reading the passages thoroughly. God chose to reconcile all things through him, and all things were created for him, and through him, as in via - with him in mind. He is the first-born from the dead (ascended into heaven), so that he might have supremacy, not because he had it already.

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Lies, lies and damned lies.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

He is the head. He didn't have to do anything to become God.. There was never a time when he wasn't.
He is both the beginning, and the Resurrection. (The firstborn from among the dead) and this gives him rule over all.
Let me make it simple for you: Jesus always was God, but he had to rise from the dead to give us life and to ultimately defeat the enemy.

Renniks said:

Lies, lies and damned lies.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

He is the head. He didn't have to do anything to become God.. There was never a time when he wasn't.
He is both the beginning, and the Resurrection. (The firstborn from among the dead) and this gives him rule over all.
Let me make it simple for you: Jesus always was God, but he had to rise from the dead to give us life and to ultimately defeat the enemy.

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There are most schools and groups in the world that contradict God, oppose Jesus, reject His Word,
thus most schools and groups in (and of) the world full of not only lies, but perniciousness (death dealing) .

janc said:

Who said "Before Abraham was, I am", the father or the son?

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Jesus said it. Our Savior, who is both Alpha and Omega, and one with the Father.

When you are dragged before a judge, do not think ahead of time what you will say !!!
It will not be you speaking, but the Father speaking through /in/ you. (His Words)

janc said:

The words that I speak to you I do not speak of myself; but the Father who is in me, he does it.

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More evidence for the trinity.

Renniks said:

More evidence for the trinity.

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This a sad attempt to make evidence instead of looking for true evidence.

That is, nothing at all in that verse is about trinity at all, as many have noted in the past.

janc said:

Who said "Before Abraham was, I am", the father or the son?

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God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. All three are the same God. All three was before Abraham and before anything began.

Jesus was without sin (2 Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 4:15, 1 Peter 2:22, 1 John 3:5) until He became sin for us in order that we might become the righteousness of God in Him (2 Corinthians 5:21).

Jesus became sin for us in His death on the Cross.

He then rose from the dead and revived (Romans 14:9).

Joseph77 said:

This a sad attempt to make evidence instead of looking for true evidence.

That is, nothing at all in that verse is about trinity at all, as many have noted in the past.

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Depends on how you read it. If you read it in light of others that confirm Jesus and the Father are one, you will understand he's not talking about a separate entity.

Renniks said:

Depends on how you read it. If you read it in light of others that confirm Jesus and the Father are one, you will understand he's not talking about a separate entity.

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How the Father Reveals Salvation and Everything Concerning Salvation to little children as Jesus Says is better. (not how you read it = as Jesus says private interpretation is NOT permitted, and no Scripture is of private interpretation) ...

Joseph77 said:

How the Father Reveals Salvation and Everything Concerning Salvation to little children as Jesus Says is better. (not how you read it = as Jesus says private interpretation is NOT permitted, and no Scripture is of private interpretation) ...

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Does anyone read scripture in a vacuum? It's literally impossible not to interpret what you read. If that wasn't true, those of us who read scripture would all agree on it.

Renniks said:

Does anyone read scripture in a vacuum? It's literally impossible not to interpret what you read. If that wasn't true, those of us who read scripture would all agree on it.

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Can you CHOOSE to serve God, or not ?

I would hope that whoever God Says to "CHOOSE TODAY" who you will serve, would be able to at least CHOOSE TO SERVE GOD, (not that they all will - and in fact most never serve God) ....

Man is not able to do that himself, no. Only as God Accomplishes.. as God Says, in His Word, Plan and Purpose,
as God Says in Hebrews: previously there were other ways God spoke to men, now He speaks to us (His elect) through Jesus.

Hebrews 1:1 ►
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
Hebrews 1:2 ►
Has in these last days spoken to us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Joseph77 said:

Can you CHOOSE to serve God, or not ?

I would hope that whoever God Says to "CHOOSE TODAY" who you will serve, would be able to at least CHOOSE TO SERVE GOD, (not that they all will - and in fact most never serve God) ....

Man is not able to do that himself, no. Only as God Accomplishes.. as God Says, in His Word, Plan and Purpose,
as God Says in Hebrews: previously there were other ways God spoke to men, now He speaks to us (His elect) through Jesus.

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I'm not sure what this has to do with what I said, but ok...

Renniks said:

I'm not sure what this has to do with what I said, but ok...

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IF you obey God, you won't interpret Scripture yourself, nor accept anyone else's interpretation. (as meant and written in God's Word)... The very word and meaning and use of 'interpretation' has been befouled for over a thousand years, since false interpretations are necessary to support false gospel, false teachings, and so forth...

Joseph77 said:

IF you obey God, you won't interpret Scripture yourself, nor accept anyone else's interpretation. (as meant and written in God's Word)... The very word and meaning and use of 'interpretation' has been befouled for over a thousand years, since false interpretations are necessary to support false gospel, false teachings, and so forth...

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What I'm saying is that you literally can't read anything without interpretating it to some degree. And just because there's false interpretations, that doesn't change.