The Number of his name

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To stand with our Father we must get victory over…..

1. The beast
2. His image
3. His mark
4. The number of his name.


This thread is to try to understand what is meant by the number of his name.....

  • Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the NUMBER OF HIS NAME, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

    Revelation 13:17-18 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, the name of the beast, or the NUMBER OF HIS NAME. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
When the tribes of Judah and Benjamin (the house of Judah) returned after their time in captivity to Babylon...all men were numbered! There is an extensive list of that numbering. Are any of the men numbered 666?

  • Ezra 2:2 Which came with Zerubbabel: Jeshua, Nehemiah, Seraiah, Reelaiah, Mordecai, Bilshan, Mizpar, Bigvai, Rehum, Baanah. The number of the men of the People of Israel:

    2:13 The children of Adonikam, six hundred sixty and six.
Interestingly....in the book of Nehemiah this same man is numbered at 667. Which is correct? Remember, He told us to...."Beware of the scribes."

  • Nehemiah 7:18 The children of Adonikam, six hundred threescore and seven.

    1 Chronicles 2:55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.

    Matthew 23:2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

The name Adonikam is also Adonijah and in [Nehemiah 10:16], he is numbered as one of the “chief of the people.” Who is this chief of the people being numbered at 666?

  • 1 Kings 1:5 Then Adonijah the son of Haggith exalted himself, saying, “I will be king:” and he prepared him chariots and horsemen, and fifty men to run before him. (9) And Adonijah slew sheep and oxen and fat cattle by the stone of Zoheleth, which is by En-rogel, and called all his brethren the king’s sons, and all the men of Judah the king’s servants: But Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah, and the mighty men, and Solomon his brother, he called not.

Such a familiar story. He, for a short time, usurped the crown. This man, numbered at 666, "slew sheep, etc." during his great tribulation. In the future he will spiritually slay sheep, God's children, on the same stone. The "stone of Zoheleth" is...the Serpent Stone.

  • Six hundred sixty six…If six is the number of secular or human perfection, the sixty six is a more emphatic expression of the same fact, and six hundred sixty six is the concentrated expression of it; It is therefore the trinity of human perfection; the perfection of imperfection; the culmination of human pride in independence of God and opposition to His Christ.

    The number, however, has to be computed, to reckon, to calculate, not merely to count or enumerate. Therefore it is not to be known by gematria merely, though, as we have said, that will be one of the factors in the calculation, just as the letters in the word Jesus amount to eight hundred eighty eight.

    It will be seen from this that the number is very far reaching, and is filled with a meaning deeper, perhaps, than anything we have yet discovered. One thing, however is certain, and that is, that the triple six marks the culmination of man’s opposition to God in the person of the coming antichrist.

    The duration of the old Assyrian empire was 666 years before it was conquered by Babylon
    . ~ Companion Bible, E.W. Bullinger
I believe that having victory over the "number of his name" is in knowing he and those with him are among us...as they were in the past so are they today.
 

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Bravo Whirl your the only other person Ive ever seen point this out I researched this and the reason we get 666 in one book and 667 in the other is because in one he doesnt count himself in the other he does count himself.
 

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"in one he doesnt count himself in the other he does count himself."

I don't understand. Who is taking the count? Do you mean Adonikam gives the accounting and leaves himself out in one? I wonder why it is the only one like that in the numbering. The others appear to be the same from Ezra to Nehemiah.
 

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Guess what, the mark of the beast, 666, you know, that mark that Christians are dreading will come soon? Be it a computer chip or whatever.

That mark YOU ALREADY HAVE. YOU HAVE THE MARK 666 BLAZENED ON YOUR FOREHEAD AND IN YOUR RIGHT HAND ALREADY.

And guess what, EVERYONE DOES.

No one is without that mark.

It is not a mark that WILL come, it is a mark that IS.

And that mark is THE THOUGHTS (FOREHEAD) OF OUR FATHER ADAM AND THE WORKS (RIGHT HAND) OF OUR FATHER ADAM. Our problem is NOT GETTING this mark, our problem is GETTING RID OF IT. We already have it.

If you buy something, you have it, if you work for something, you have it.

It is the way of this world. It is the life of the 1st death, dead in trespasses and sins. In the verse mentioned above, the overcomers got the victory over the beast, his image, and his mark and the number of his name.

Remember when God took Abraham out to reveal His promise to him, how that He showed him the stars?

And God said that as innumerable as the stars were, so should Abraham’s seed be. Then God takes Abraham out and shows him the sand of the sea shore, innumerable. And that God said also was the number of his seed. Let me ask you. What happens when you combine sand with fire, what do you get? GLASS. This sea of glass that the overcomers are standing on is ALL HUMANITY CONSUMED IN THE FIRE OF GOD. That is what the sea is.
 

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whirlwind said:
"in one he doesnt count himself in the other he does count himself."

I don't understand. Who is taking the count? Do you mean Adonikam gives the accounting and leaves himself out in one? I wonder why it is the only one like that in the numbering. The others appear to be the same from Ezra to Nehemiah.
Thats just the explantion given in everything I read about it. they never expounded on it as to who or why other than that in one he isnt counted and the other he is ...
 

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Benoni said:
Guess what, the mark of the beast, 666, you know, that mark that Christians are dreading will come soon? Be it a computer chip or whatever.

That mark YOU ALREADY HAVE. YOU HAVE THE MARK 666 BLAZENED ON YOUR FOREHEAD AND IN YOUR RIGHT HAND ALREADY.

And guess what, EVERYONE DOES.

No one is without that mark.

It is not a mark that WILL come, it is a mark that IS.

And that mark is THE THOUGHTS (FOREHEAD) OF OUR FATHER ADAM AND THE WORKS (RIGHT HAND) OF OUR FATHER ADAM. Our problem is NOT GETTING this mark, our problem is GETTING RID OF IT. We already have it.

If you buy something, you have it, if you work for something, you have it.

It is the way of this world. It is the life of the 1st death, dead in trespasses and sins. In the verse mentioned above, the overcomers got the victory over the beast, his image, and his mark and the number of his name.

Remember when God took Abraham out to reveal His promise to him, how that He showed him the stars?

And God said that as innumerable as the stars were, so should Abraham’s seed be. Then God takes Abraham out and shows him the sand of the sea shore, innumerable. And that God said also was the number of his seed. Let me ask you. What happens when you combine sand with fire, what do you get? GLASS. This sea of glass that the overcomers are standing on is ALL HUMANITY CONSUMED IN THE FIRE OF GOD. That is what the sea is.

Well I agree that the mark is your thought/believe in your mind/forehead but I dont believe everyone has it ..
You get it by who you chose to believe in follow Christ or antichrist
and sense antichrist isnt here yet no one yet has this mark in their mind/forehead or right hand
Its the exact oppisite of the seal of God
 

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People cannot choose to believe in Christ. There is no such thing in the Bible as men choosing or aving a freewill to be saved. The mark of Adam is on all of us.
 

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Christina said:
whirlwind said:
"in one he doesnt count himself in the other he does count himself."

I don't understand. Who is taking the count? Do you mean Adonikam gives the accounting and leaves himself out in one? I wonder why it is the only one like that in the numbering. The others appear to be the same from Ezra to Nehemiah.
Thats just the explantion given in everything I read about it. they never expounded on it as to who or why other than that in one he isnt counted and the other he is ...

Thank you Christina. This morning someone brought up another verse with 666 and I added the following on this subject.
  • 1 Kings 10:14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,
What or who does that 666 talents of gold represent? Solomon was building the temple. Present with him in this building was the number 666 just as they were present in the building of the second temple...after the Babylonian captivity.

As numbered in Ezra the 666 were present at the second building. They were......

  • Ezra 2:13 The children of Adonikam, six hundred sixty and six.
As written in Kings the 666 were present at the first building. They were sybolically represented as gold.

  • Lamentations 4:1-2 How is the gold become dim! how is the most fine gold changed! the stones of the sanctuary are poured out in the top of every street. The precious sons of Zion, comparable to fine gold, how are they esteemed as earthen pitchers, the work of the hands of the potter.

    Joel 3:5 Because ye have taken My silver and My gold, and have carried into your temples My goodly pleasant things:

    Haggai 2:8 The silver is Mine, and the gold is Mine, saith the LORD of hosts.

    11 Timothy 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

    Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of Me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
People are His vessels of gold and silver...and wood and earth, etc. The 666 talents of gold, or who those talents represent, were brought into the temple when Solomon......

  • 1 Kings 3:1 And Solomon made affinity with Pharaoh king of Egypt, and took Pharaoh's daughter, and brought her into the city of David, until he had made an end of building his own house, and the house of the LORD, and the wall of Jerusalem round about.

    7:8 And his house where he dwelt had another court within the porch, which was of the like work. Solomon made also an house for Pharaoh's daughter, whom he had taken to wife, like unto this porch.
Pharaoh is symbolic of Satan ruling Egypt, the world, so his daughter would be.....
:chin


Remember Moses...

  • Hebrews 11:24-25 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
 

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I see the daughter of Pharaoh as the type for the Harlot in Rev. in Rev. the harlot is of course Antichrist(Satans) false church/religion ....Harlot/whoring after the false god.... This form of spiritual adultry can relate back sptiritually to the term wormwood.
Drinking the poison Wormwood ...was the test for adultry amoung the Hebrews/Jews

I did a small study on this wormwood
http://biblestudy.madmooseforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=53
 

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Great point...

The problem with men in the Church today is they blindly follow men because they either belong to a certain belief system/ denomination for that is all they know.

We are all supposed to follow Christ; true?

But where is Christ? Christ is out there in the religious system; He is even in Babylon for: Jeremiah 51:7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD's hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.

For God uses Babylon.

The word Christ means anointed; so if you are against God’s anointing you are anti Christ.

What does the Bible say how God choices his anointed?

David was anointed by God long before he was king; David was a man who wrote thousands of psalms that are used to inspire so many awesome sermons as well as songs sung in churches all though out the world through many generations since they were written; and you say David was not converted? All you are doing is trying to bring David’s relationship with God down to your limited view of salvation.

The Ark of God was at David’s home, in a tent on His porch; this was not the normal tradition. What was normal was the High Priest once a year entered the Holy of Holies and no man or priest or King had such immanent excess to the presence of God as David.


David was king; He was God’s anointed King; not like Saul who was also anointed by God; but chosen by the people; like many ministries in the church (little c) realm today. David was one of those special people God called, anointed and was anointed as child. Today’s ministry is chosen by men. I have found men of God that I know anointed by the deepness of their understanding not because they have been voted in or out by some church committee. David walked for many years and knew He had an anointing; but he kept it to himself and understood that Saul was God’s anointed; that is until the appointed time. I think we are better off to wait for God to anoint God’s chosen vessel then to anoint our own.

Also let us not forget Solomon who was also anointed of God; but because of his marring and turning his heart to false idols he became corrupt. Reminds me of all the different religions out there that man has married into; there is only one way; Christ with in.

Thank you Christina. This morning someone brought up another verse with 666 and I added the following on this subject.

    • 1 Kings 10:14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,


What or who does that 666 talents of gold represent? Solomon was building the temple. Present with him in this building was the number 666 just as they were present in the building of the second temple...after the Babylonian captivity.


 

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Christina said:
Whirl
I see the daughter of Pharaoh as the type for the Harlot in Rev. in Rev. the harlot is of course Antichrist(Satans) false church/religion ....Harlot/whoring after the false god.... This form of spiritual adultry can relate back sptiritually to the term wormwood.
Drinking the poison Wormwood ...was the test for adultry amoung the Hebrews/Jews

I did a small study on this wormwood
http://biblestudy.madmooseforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=53


Exactly! ;D
 

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In order to unlock the meaning of the "number of (the wild beast) name"(Rev 15:2), it is necessary to understand the meaning of the symbolisms and numbers used in the Bible. For example, at Revelation 13:17, 18, it says that "that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name. Here is where wisdom comes in: Let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a man’s number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six."

What is the "wild beast" that compels people to follow it, and those who do not, are not "able to buy or sell except a person having the mark" ? At Daniel 7, there is seen "four huge beasts" coming "out of the sea". These "beasts" pictured four world powers, starting with ancient Babylon as a "lion", and continued with the Roman Empire as the "fourth beast."(Dan 7:4, 7) Thus, "beasts" in the highly symbolic book of Revelation picture imperfect and deeply flawed human governments. Being as the "wild beast" of Revelation 13 is a composite "beast", made up of all the different components of Daniel 7, it then represents all imperfect and deeply flawed human governments, these being a creation of the "dragon", Satan the Devil.(Rev 13:1) This "wild beast" ascended "out of the sea", with the "sea" picturing the masses of restless mankind, seeking to independently govern themselves apart from God's rule.(Isa 57:20)

To understand the meaning of "the number of the wild beast", being 666, it is important to grasp the number seven used in the Bible. Seven is used frequently in the Scriptures to signify completeness. At times it has reference to bringing a work toward completion. Or it can refer to the complete cycle of things as established or allowed by God. By completing his work toward the earth in six creative days and resting on the seventh day, Jehovah God set the pattern for the whole Sabbath arrangement, from the seven-day week to the Jubilee year that followed the seven-times-seven–year cycle. (Ex 20:10; Le 25:2, 6, 8) Seven appears often in connection with the Levitical rules for offerings, such as when the high priest spattered some of the bull's blood "seven times in front of the curtain of the holy place." (Lev 4:6; 16:14, 19; Num 28:11) and for cleansings.(Lev 14:7, 8, 16, 27, 51; 2Kings 5:10) Thus, the number seven means something is complete in God's eyes.

Hence, the number six at times represents imperfection, short of seven. The number of “the wild beast” is 666 and is called “a man’s number,” indicating that it has to do with imperfect, fallen man, and it seems to symbolize the imperfection of that which is represented by “the wild beast.” The number six being emphasized to a third degree (the six appearing in the position of units, tens, and hundreds) therefore highlights the imperfection and deficiency of that which the beast represents, or pictures. Thus, the "wild beast" of Revelation 13:2 is the sum total of all human governments around the earth that is profoundly flawed, never able to bring "peace and security" despite the wholesale promises by political leaders.

No human government can accomplish, falling miserably short, of what God's kingdom was created to do, bring total peace and security to the earth, by restoring it to a paradise.(Matt 6:9,10; Luke 23:43; Rev 21:3-5)
 

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Did you ever wonder why the two witnesses prophecy 1260 ? Why don't they prophecy 666,.........or do they, and the answer is hidden within this?! I know some will tell you that they stand there for 1260 days clothed in sackcloth. Do the get weekends off? what about using the bathroom or maybe a change of cloths every now and then. I'm being ludicrous to make a point. There is more being said here than one would think. Now does it say they prophecy for 1260 days, or does it mean concerning 1260 days. Why was the women in Revelation 12 nourished time, times and a half (1260 days)? Was there something she needed to know before the flood?


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Great point...

The problem with men in the Church today is they blindly follow men because they either belong to a certain belief system/ denomination for that is all they know.

We are all supposed to follow Christ; true?

But where is Christ? Christ is out there in the religious system; He is even in Babylon for: Jeremiah 51:7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD's hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.

For God uses Babylon.

The word Christ means anointed; so if you are against God’s anointing you are anti Christ.

What does the Bible say how God choices his anointed?

David was anointed by God long before he was king; David was a man who wrote thousands of psalms that are used to inspire so many awesome sermons as well as songs sung in churches all though out the world through many generations since they were written; and you say David was not converted? All you are doing is trying to bring David’s relationship with God down to your limited view of salvation.

The Ark of God was at David’s home, in a tent on His porch; this was not the normal tradition. What was normal was the High Priest once a year entered the Holy of Holies and no man or priest or King had such immanent excess to the presence of God as David.


David was king; He was God’s anointed King; not like Saul who was also anointed by God; but chosen by the people; like many ministries in the church (little c) realm today. David was one of those special people God called, anointed and was anointed as child. Today’s ministry is chosen by men. I have found men of God that I know anointed by the deepness of their understanding not because they have been voted in or out by some church committee. David walked for many years and knew He had an anointing; but he kept it to himself and understood that Saul was God’s anointed; that is until the appointed time. I think we are better off to wait for God to anoint God’s chosen vessel then to anoint our own.

Also let us not forget Solomon who was also anointed of God; but because of his marring and turning his heart to false idols he became corrupt. Reminds me of all the different religions out there that man has married into; there is only one way; Christ with in.



Very nice post, you made some good points, thanks.