Rebuilding the temple...I don't think so

whirlwind · Dec 16, 2009

I was just reading a post about the rebuilding of a literal temple...and how that isn't going to happen. The temple being built is us...God's children, not one of stone. Contained in the article was the following quote from Wiki. I found it to be most interesting!

<blockquote>"In 363, Emperor Julian II, on his way to engage Persia, stopped at the ruins of the Second Temple in Jerusalem. In keeping with his effort to foster religions other than Christianity, Julian ordered the Temple rebuilt. Sozomen (c. 400–450) in his Historia Ecclesiastica wrote this about the effort as did a personal friend of his, Ammianus Marcellinus:

"Julian thought to rebuild at an extravagant expense the proud Temple once at Jerusalem, and committed this task to Alypius of Antioch. Alypius set vigorously to work, and was seconded by the governor of the province; when fearful balls of fire, breaking out near the foundations, continued their attacks, till the workmen, after repeated scorchings, could approach no more: and he gave up the attempt."

The failure to rebuild the Temple has been ascribed to the Galilee earthquake of 363, and to the Jews' ambivalence about the project. Sabotage is a possibility, as is an accidental fire. Divine intervention was the common view among Christian historians of the time.[11]"
Temple Mount - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</blockquote>

Glenn · Dec 16, 2009

Without another temple 2Thess would never be fulfilled.

Glen.

whirlwind · Dec 16, 2009

There is a temple but it is not of stone.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Benoni · Dec 17, 2009

There are at least four or five different temples/tabernacles examples in the Bible, they all point to the true temple which is in us. God’s Word is spiritual especially when it comes to something that shows such a strong pattern over and over again in scripture. Here are a few verse that express God’s intention of His dwelling place. Every material, ever step, every piece of furniture has a deep spiritual meaning.

1 Corinthians 3
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

1 Corinthians 6
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Revelation 11
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Hebrews 9
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

Hebrews 9
24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

2 Corinthians 5
1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

Acts 15:14
Declares that he will return again and restore the Tabernacle of David and then he will save the remainder of mankind

Benoni · Dec 17, 2009

"This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit, says the Lord of hosts. Who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel you shall become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it." (Zechariah 4:6-7).

Not only was there a literal fulfillment of this Scripture, in Zerubbabel's day, but it also holds within it a PROPHETIC WORD, of the greater temple being built, and the establishment of the NEW COVENANT, of which Jesus Christ is both the Chief Cornerstone, and the Capstone. He is both Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, and without Him there would be no LIVING TEMPLE established. He is THE ALL!

The Dictionary defines a headstone as: the principle stone in a foundation, the cornerstone. JESUS CHRIST IS THAT STONE! Peter writes this very clearly, "To Whom we come, as unto a Living Stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious."

(1 Peter 2:4). Without this Stone, the next verse would never have been written. "You also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ." (v. 5). All that we are, all that we shall ever become to His praise, is BY JESUS CHRIST. We are His workmanship, and we are to be conformed to His image. "Wherefore also it is contained in the Scripture, Behold, I lay in Zion a CHIEF CORNERSTONE, elect, precious: and he that believes on Him shall not be confounded." (v. 6).

mjrhealth · Dec 17, 2009

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

That is why the temple will be rebuilt. This cannot be fullfilled if it is not.

In Hiis Love

bigdummy · Dec 17, 2009

I don't doubt that a new temple will be built, but due to Christs sacrifice once and for all I see no reason for one , for when the curtin in the temple was destroyed as I see it, it opened a way for all mankind to go before God by way of Jesus and not other blood sacrifices or the need for priests as Mediators, but than I don't speak as a Jew who still awaits a Messiah.

Benoni · Dec 17, 2009

The abomination of desolation is the false religous system of man standing in Holy place of God.
What is the holy place of God?

mjrhealth said:
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

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That is why the temple will be rebuilt. This cannot be fullfilled if it is not.

In Hiis Love

whirlwind · Dec 17, 2009

mjrhealth said:
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

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That is why the temple will be rebuilt. This cannot be fullfilled if it is not.

In Hiis Love

Consider....

11 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

As previously quoted we are the temple of God.

2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

Satan's false prophets, the "many antichrists" already work...they're already among us teaching from the pulpits to and in the temple of God...us! I see the one "who now letteth" as Satan controlling this deception, preparing the way for his arrival. That is when all will be pushed aside, "taken out of the way," when he himself stands before us...pretending to be Christ.

2:11-12 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Don't believe the delusion, the lie. Know that YOU and I are His Temple and there are false prophets among us.

Rank Stranger · Dec 30, 2009

The "Third" (and final) temple will be rebuilt in the appropriate time, because God has decreed it to be so. The Ark and other furniture of the Holy of Holies has been found and recovered by Israel, and when the Mosque on the Temple Mount is removed (again by God's decree, possibly by using men to do the work) the temple will be built. We humans almost always underrate God's awesome power. He does not need us to do anything, for He can do everything. And He can easily prevent the rebuilding of the temple until the time arrives when He wants it rebuilt. When that time arrives, it will be rebuilt.

Rank Stranger

gumby · Dec 30, 2009

Well its hard to say offhand, i think a lot of churches or temples if you will will be standing against god and not preaching his word as they should. So for me you have to seperate the good from the bad so far as churches go as far as a physical temple of stones and rocks go we as christians dont need that. Luke 21:5, Luke 21:6, John 2:19, John 2:20 and John 2:21.

Rank Stranger · Dec 31, 2009

There is a problem in this thread, and it is the mixing of apples and oranges. While it is true that the bodies of living true Christians are temples where the Holy Spirit resides, God did not suddenly negate His Covenant with the chosen Jewish people. There are actually two separate yet related dramas in play right now. and the building of the temple in Jerusalem is an important part of one of them.

Rank Stranger

kay-gee · Jan 3, 2010

Rank Stranger said:
The "Third" (and final) temple will be rebuilt in the appropriate time, because God has decreed it to be so. The Ark and other furniture of the Holy of Holies has been found and recovered by Israel, and when the Mosque on the Temple Mount is removed (again by God's decree, possibly by using men to do the work) the temple will be built. We humans almost always underrate God's awesome power. He does not need us to do anything, for He can do everything. And He can easily prevent the rebuilding of the temple until the time arrives when He wants it rebuilt. When that time arrives, it will be rebuilt.

Rank Stranger

The mosque is the reason that Temple WILL NEVER BE BUILT! It is Gods assurance that it will never be. The mosque has been placed by divine providence, in the same way the cherub with the flaming sword was placed to prevent re-entry to Eden.

God will never ever be a participant in something that brings dis-honour to the person and blood of His son Jesus Christ. A temple is an insult to the work of Christ.

all the best...

SoldierforChrist · Jan 11, 2010

The physical Temple in Israel will be rebuilt and will have several uses in the future:

First, during the tribulation the son of peridition(satan) will rule rule in that Temple pretending to be God and the Jews will be deceived and follow him. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

Also, after Jesus returns and Armageddon takes place, then Jesus will rule in that very Temple here on earth for a thousand years(the millennial reign). In that time all of the nations that are left on the earth will come to the temple every month and bring sacrifices.

Christina · Jan 11, 2010

I agree with most of your post just not the Temple part there are temples and then there is the Temple
I dont believe there will be a stone building Temple of God to be a Temple of God it must be sanctioned by God he never gives Satan permission to build a Temple to God. And he is building a Temple in his bride the church .... He also brings the holy city with him Im sure he will rule from there.

2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

Now that being said they may well build a temple or at least an Alter something must be there for Satan to declare himself God
it just wont be a real Temple of God but a fake just like Satan

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